Lindaland
  Astrology 2.0
  Can you lose your birth signs?

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Can you lose your birth signs?
WhiteBirds
Knowflake

Posts: 351
From:
Registered: Oct 2018

posted October 22, 2021 05:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhiteBirds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everyone. This is a complicated subject but I will try to keep it short.

Recently, well, actually 7 months ago I received a fatal blow to the chest. Right in the heart area.
I have been agonizing this time, and now it seems that there is no more physical pain.

But ... There is a dilemma. I feel like I've lost my moon sign.

I am Cancer Sun, Scorpio Moon.

After the hit I don't feel my Scorpio anywhere. It is as if everything has been erased. I no longer feel Pluto.

Now in my chest there is only emptiness ... And Scorpio is not there.
I no longer see life through the eyes of a Scorpio Moon.

I think the Moon is our heart ... So maybe after the blow I lost my Scorpio?

Is this possible?

IP: Logged

WhiteBirds
Knowflake

Posts: 351
From:
Registered: Oct 2018

posted October 22, 2021 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhiteBirds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I want to illustrate what I mean. In this photo I had my Scorpio Moon. I could feel Pluto. Scorpio was there:

https://ibb.co/hD1hZcj

And these photos are after the blow to the heart. Is Scorpio still there? Because I don't feel Pluto and I'm very worried:

https://ibb.co/JjWVvWp

https://ibb.co/tYT5GK7

https://ibb.co/1Kn35DZ

Thanks for your help in advance. I am very concerned.

IP: Logged

Amoranthaniela
Knowflake

Posts: 173
From: europe
Registered: Dec 2020

posted October 22, 2021 06:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amoranthaniela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We don't lose our signs like this. The energy is there when needed, and sometimes comes and goes in waves. And sometimes when we're weakened the intensity of one of our signs can become much less noticable.


I noticed years ago after getting a virus that I could no longer feel others emotions and thought something was wrong with my moon sign. Eventually my ability to feel others came back, but it was a scary shocker for awhile. What I mean here is, whatever is happening, it will hopefully pass, and maybe you've just been weakened and need to heal.

IP: Logged

WhiteBirds
Knowflake

Posts: 351
From:
Registered: Oct 2018

posted October 22, 2021 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhiteBirds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
We don't lose our signs like this. The energy is there when needed, and sometimes comes and goes in waves. And sometimes when we're weakened the intensity of one of our signs can become much less noticable.


I noticed years ago after getting a virus that I could no longer feel others emotions and thought something was wrong with my moon sign. Eventually my ability to feel others came back, but it was a scary shocker for awhile. What I mean here is, whatever is happening, it will hopefully pass, and maybe you've just been weakened and need to heal.


What is your moon sign?

How do you know that we can't waste our energy like this?

Thank you

IP: Logged

Librapurr
Knowflake

Posts: 1192
From:
Registered: Jul 2019

posted October 22, 2021 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, but you can have transits what can affect your planets a big time. Also, mood changes. And Scorpio moon is moody.

I lose a half of my birth signs every morning when I need to wake up too early lol.

IP: Logged

Belage
Knowflake

Posts: 5114
From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted October 22, 2021 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't know at what degree your Scorpio moon is, but are you aware that current transits of Saturn and Jupiter in Aquarius are applying squares to Scorpio, in addition to current transit of Uranus in Taurus opposing Scorpio?
And the North Node will soon enter Taurus, giving all things Scorpio the dreaded South Node flavor.

So Scorpio planets depending on their degree placements might feel under attack and even destroyed. And no doubt many of them will undergo transformation. But you are not losing the planet.

ETA: I am not saying all those things to scare you. Scorpio is a strong placement and will survive the onslaught. But it must transform itself, it must undergo a kind of psychological death, even if self inflicted.

IP: Logged

kani
Knowflake

Posts: 1006
From:
Registered: Oct 2018

posted October 23, 2021 07:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kani     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WhiteBirds:
Hi everyone. This is a complicated subject but I will try to keep it short.

Recently, well, actually 7 months ago I received a fatal blow to the chest. Right in the heart area.


What do you mean? If it was a fatal blow, you would be dead and unable to post here.

IP: Logged

Aries Eagle
Moderator

Posts: 2026
From: Άρης
Registered: Jan 2013

posted October 23, 2021 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aries Eagle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I see the Moon more related to mind and emotions, which can be altered by taking external substances that affect the mind (bad idea).

IP: Logged

WhiteBirds
Knowflake

Posts: 351
From:
Registered: Oct 2018

posted October 23, 2021 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhiteBirds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Up

IP: Logged

Belage
Knowflake

Posts: 5114
From: USA
Registered: Apr 2009

posted October 23, 2021 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belage     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kani:
What do you mean? If it was a fatal blow, you would be dead and unable to post here.

I had the same thought when I read "fatal blow", then I realized English was not the OP's first language...

IP: Logged

Kannon McAfee
Knowflake

Posts: 4786
From: Portland, OR - USA
Registered: Oct 2011

posted October 24, 2021 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kannon McAfee     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It is possible, of course, for a person to change the personality features as seen in their birth chart — intentionally over time. But it takes time.

It doesn't just get knocked out of you by an accident or attack.

------------------
The Declinations Guy | Expert Birth Chart Rectification

Join me at Health Positive! my newsletter on substack: http://healthpositive.substack.com/

IP: Logged

PlutoWasHere
Knowflake

Posts: 232
From: The Nether World
Registered: Mar 2021

posted October 24, 2021 03:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoWasHere     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi WhiteBirds, You’re going through a difficult time right now and the human body and mind has developed coping mechanisms to survive trauma. One of the ways this can express itself is that emotions are numbed until you feel safe enough again to start healing. Please take care of yourself and make sure you find a safe spot where your basic needs are met. Once you’re in a safe place long enough you can work on healing and will probably feel like yourself again but stronger.

From an astrological point of view this is part of the cycle of Scorpio and Pluto. Burning to ashes and to rise again stronger like a Phoenix. Scorpio is fixed water, even though it’s an emotional sign it can turn to ice and become emotional numb in order to survive. It’s a form of self protection. I think it’s important for you to find a safe place so that you can eventually start healing again. Please take care.

IP: Logged

scorpiogirl
Knowflake

Posts: 126
From:
Registered: Jul 2011

posted October 24, 2021 04:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpiogirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, first of all I want to echo Kani by saying that your blow to the chest wasn't fatal, since you're alive.

In the photos you posted after the one with the cat you look stressed. If you don't mind sharing, what was the nature of your injury?

IP: Logged

GalacticCoreExplosionV2
Knowflake

Posts: 892
From:
Registered: Jul 2021

posted October 24, 2021 10:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
It is possible, of course, for a person to change the personality features as seen in their birth chart — intentionally over time. But it takes time.

It doesn't just get knocked out of you by an accident or attack.


It is a known phenomenon that sometimes head traumas can radically change the personality of a person towards a sociopathic type expression and attunement (from previously having normal levels of affective empathy, conscience, etc). I have a friend whose co-worker had a reverse kind of reaction go on with this. She apparently was a nasty acting/behaving person, had an accident and head trauma, and then became noticeably nicer after--like radically changed after the accident.

Then there is the semi infamous case in relation to the Cayce work. There was a man who went from being a normal, nice, kind, gentle, loving husband and father, and then almost overnight became extremely violent, angry, and just very different than he had been, to the point where he had to be committed.

Someone in or connected to the family contacted Cayce and set up a reading for him. He had an accident (I think a fall) recently, and some spinal nerves were being severely impinged and that was what was leading to the extreme and unusual behavior/personality. He was treated according to the recommendations by Cayce's guidance, and he returned to normal relatively shortly after and was allowed to leave the institution.

He later showed up, unannounced to a lecture that Edgar was giving, and his case happened to be mentioned and when it was, he stood up, and in tears said something along the lines of, I am that man, and thanks to you I have my life/family back.

Edgar himself had an incident when a child where he was struck by baseball in the spine and then acted VERY unusual for a few days or so after. At some point, some kind of guidance came through him and told his mother to make a poultice and put it on the injury, and he returned to normal after that and a nights sleep.

The human body has its own reactions, tendencies, and circuitry independent of the Soul. If extremes develop in the body, it can indeed facilitate changes in behavior, personality, etc, even suddenly and/or majorly. I'm not so inclined to believe that a blow to the chest would be likely to cause this, but then again, I don't really know enough one way or the other to say for certain. As previously outlined, it is most known in relation to physical traumas to the head or spine.

IP: Logged

mirage29
Knowflake

Posts: 14969
From: us
Registered: May 2012

posted October 24, 2021 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosionV2:

It is a known phenomenon that sometimes head traumas can radically change the personality of a person towards a sociopathic type expression and attunement (from previously having normal levels of affective empathy, conscience, etc). I have a friend whose co-worker who had a reverse kind of reaction go on with this. She apparently was a nasty acting/behaving person, had an accident and head trauma, and then became noticeably nicer after--like radically changed after the accident.

. . . .

The human body has its own reactions, tendencies, and circuitry independent of the Soul. If extremes develop in the body, it can indeed facilitate changes in behavior, personality, etc, even suddenly. I'm not so inclined to believe that a blow to the chest would be likely to cause this, but then again, I don't really know enough one way or the other to say for certain. As outlined, it is most known in relation to physical traumas to the head or spine.


Galactic! The other day, I had a memory of a friend and coworker pastor of mine who had gone out to lunch with secretary of main pastor. They were involved in a car crash. Head injuries to both completely wiped-out former connections to soul and ability to be conscious in realm of spirituality.

Were reverted to regular mundane carnal-life people--
to everyday, day-to-day, 'exist'ance.
No ability to be 'awakened'--
to be aware of having a "conscious connection" to God.

There have been brain scientists that uncovered there is a 'spirituality' part of the brain. (parietal lobe). If that part of the brain is not able to be activated in their life, a person cannot 'perceive' what's happening on a spiritual etheric level of being. .. Missing a part of what's capable as a part of their humanity.

. .
With the notion of the fatal blow--
this is more symbolic psychologically.
Could have be touched emotionally by news she did not want to receive. It felt like a painful rejection which psychologically was so deep that she feels it is fatal to 'what' she knew/felt before.

Some wounds can be processed and the person recovers.
Other wounds continue in pain, even affecting that change in behavior {re Kannon}. When the Will to live has been struck down hard through a Wound, the body itself begins the reverse of being alive and turns towards shutting all the various systems down.
When the Will to Live receives a blow, the affected person begins to die.

The energy of Eros (soul's Will and drive to live) when broken, gives path for the work of Thanatos (death) to take root in the body.

"The tragedy of Life--
is what dies inside a man--
while he lives."
~ Albert Schweitzer

phrase:
"Living life as a walking suicide"
~ Marlene Steinberg


"A person’s spirit can endure sickness,
but who can survive a broken spirit?"
~ Proverbs 18:14

My 93~95(?) year old grandfather had slipped while showering in his tub. In his fall, his side (ribs) cracked as they hit against the safety rails; the broken ribs punctured his lungs. He was transported to the hospital.
. .
He was making good progress healing (in the hospital) and would soon be released to return to his home.
His eldest daughter lived next door and used to go visit him daily, making sure he was alright.
. .
She visited him in the hospital.
Hearing that he was about to be released to go home, she said to him--
'You've lived LONG enough, Old Man!!
It's time for you to DIE.'
. .
He was dead a few days later---
Died of a Broken Heart, a Wounded spirit.

"Life and death are in the power of the tongue"
~ Proverbs 18:21

The words you speak
to another sentient human being
can preserve life or destroy it.

(music) "Let The Words"
{God's Grace} (Integrity Music,
Psalm 19:13-14, scripture memory ~1992)
[2:43] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgyOZ9oI374

lyric
Let the words of my mouth,
and the meditation of my heart,
be Acceptable in your Sight...
O God.......

WORDS can Heal
Words can stab and wound
to the point of destroying the Will to Live.

WhiteBirds said:
"I received a fatal blow to the chest.
Right in the heart area."
" I have been agonizing this time, and now it seems that there is no more physical pain."

After trauma, and its treatment, you 'may' arrive at a point in time where you can recall what happened, and be free from the raw fresh pains of hurts each time.

That's a Good thing.
Sign that you have made progress.

Speaking of progress??
You have a "Progressed Moon" as time goes by.
Your own natal moon goes through THREE life cycles.

Hoping your Hurts,
every hurt,
only becomes a memory
void of the physical body sensation of
having been given a "broken heart."


IP: Logged

GalacticCoreExplosionV2
Knowflake

Posts: 892
From:
Registered: Jul 2021

posted October 24, 2021 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Interesting but sad cases Mirage, thank you for sharing. I figure our Expanded selves and the larger consciousness system are wise and loving enough to take into consideration these physical influences and variables, and not count it against us karmically/spiritually.

This topic hits home somewhat hard. During this past spring, we had a housemate/tenant move out, and had to find a new one last minute. In came a woman with a young child, accompanied with a boyfriend who was not going to be living here supposedly.

I guess I wasn't using my deeper intuitive senses well, or got overly distracted/disarmed by the adorable baby that was thrust into my arms at one point (little ones and animals pull on my heart strings pretty easily) cause turned out the mother was a bit of a pathological liar. And then after a couple months decided to stop paying rent, while the boyfriend was also living there illegally.

At some point, she had told my spouse that she had been in a bad accident (a few years or so ago) and had a significant head trauma--she showed my spouse the scar. Over time, and noticing the lies, I wondered if perhaps this might be a case of the above.

We ended up having to go to court to evict them. We were only able to because we installed a camera pointing to the outside door and had very strong evidence that the guy was obviously living here and thus they were in breach of the rental contract. They left a bunch of stuff in their room that we had to go through and clean up. We found a medical paper saying that the female housemate had been giving CPR to someone who had just been in a car accident, when she got struck by another car. What a horribly sad case if the above does apply to her. Here she was, possibly previously a decent to good person, trying to do some good, and then a head trauma during same turned her into a sociopath.

(Turns out they also both had a drug problem, and probably was where the majority of their money was going and why they "couldn't" pay rent).

IP: Logged

mirage29
Knowflake

Posts: 14969
From: us
Registered: May 2012

posted October 24, 2021 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Galactic, sorry that happened.
That's not right.

IP: Logged

WhiteBirds
Knowflake

Posts: 351
From:
Registered: Oct 2018

posted October 25, 2021 06:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for WhiteBirds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I came across this thread talking about Scorpio being careful right now. Does this have something to do with what happened to me?

https://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1129190#post1129190

IP: Logged

GalacticCoreExplosionV2
Knowflake

Posts: 892
From:
Registered: Jul 2021

posted October 25, 2021 09:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Mirage, but it was what it was.

IP: Logged

Amoranthaniela
Knowflake

Posts: 173
From: europe
Registered: Dec 2020

posted October 26, 2021 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Amoranthaniela     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WhiteBirds:

How do you know that we can't waste our energy like this?

Thank you


I'm not sure what you mean by the energy part, but what I mean is, if there is a change, it is due to the soul/and or energy levels of the person as well.


Imagine a zodiac sign is a room filled with tools/things to use.

Let's say your "Scorpio room" has a piano, a popcorn maker, and some drills. Let's say you know how to use the popcorn maker and the drills, and are still learning the "piano" or have to finish learning another thing to "unlock" that skill. But now imagine you are too tired to use the popcorn maker, or even the drills. Some part of you is injured or weak. Just like irl if you are tired, you won't wanna make popcorn or drill anything.

But the "Scorpio room" and its tools are always there regardless of how you feel.

Hope that makes some sense.

But anyway, to fix it, try resting, giving yourself some much needed TLC. Maybe some massages or physical relaxing therapies to help align your energies. Maybe some sports or even saunas. Meditations. Try healing things that could help you feel better and stronger, and even eat healthy if you don't already. Little steps will help I think.

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright 2000-2021

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a