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Topic: Feds say they thwarted militia plot to kidnap Whitmer
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teasel
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posted October 08, 2020 02:27 PM
  
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/10/08/feds-thwart-militia-plot-kidnap-michigan-gov-gretchen-whitmer/5922301002/ IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 08, 2020 02:32 PM
Will Trump condemn this group for what they planned to do to her? Will any of you?God, I'm exhausted. I need to vote early, get it over with, and focus on something other than this crap. Talking about it here, never comes to anything. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted October 08, 2020 03:01 PM
If it's the right thing to do, yes. But it's OK if someone is wrong, as long as it's removed from their conscience. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted October 08, 2020 03:57 PM
She needs to be impeached for refusing the state supreme court order.IP: Logged |
shura
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From: kamaloka
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posted October 08, 2020 05:00 PM
What does it matter if any of us "condemn" this group? Kidnapping people is wrong. Does anyone here support kidnapping?  No? Great. Carry on.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted October 08, 2020 06:28 PM
Dems love to play that game. How about your candidate tell us how he feels about stacking the court. Oh, but we have to elect him to find that out. These are famous last words. It will haunt Dems forever. IP: Logged |
shura
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posted October 09, 2020 11:53 AM
Dems ... Fbi specifically ... Like to play propaganda games and make political arrests. As for example labeling a multi racial, lgbt+ friendly group "white supremacists"IP: Logged |
Belage
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posted October 09, 2020 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by shura:
What does it matter if any of us "condemn" this group? Kidnapping people is wrong. Does anyone here support kidnapping? No? Great. Carry on.
I couldn't think of anyone who condones the kidnapping of Whitmer or anyone. @ teasel, stop getting your panties in a bunch over everything.
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jwhop
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posted October 09, 2020 02:15 PM
At Least Two of Gretchen Whitmer's Kidnapping Conspirators Appear to Be Anti-Trump Anarchists
Victoria Taft
Oct 08, 2020 http://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2020/10/08/at-least-two-of-gretchen-whitmers-kidnapping-conspirators-appear-to-be-anti-trump-anarchists-n1024917 IP: Logged |
shura
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posted October 09, 2020 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Belage:
@ teasel, stop getting your panties in a bunch over everything.
a generation of single, often childless, women stressing and hand wringing themselves into severe emotional distress. I am sincerely sympathetic (no, really) yet also acknowledging the damage theyre inflicting on the rest of us. Maenads tearing themselves and the world apart. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 14, 2020 09:39 AM
http://www.npr.org/2020/10/13/923258271/men-in-alleged-kidnapping-plot-also-considered-targeting-virginia-governor-fbi-s?utm_term=nprnews&utm_campaign=politics&utm_medium=social&ut m_source=facebook.com&fbclid=IwAR1PbylcBHu0unXB2ZEbRBiCiGlnLFqbVOqyrChcew_xiMvvvnMDu6mF_qIThey thought about going after the governor of Virginia, too. That links them directly to trump’s tweets in April. There are people like this in Ohio, too, and they met for their discussions on their domestic terrorism plans. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 14, 2020 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by shura:
What does it matter if any of us "condemn" this group? Kidnapping people is wrong. Does anyone here support kidnapping? No? Great. Carry on.
That’s good to hear. Earlier this year, people weren’t bothered by the threats, because they agreed with the protesters. It wasn’t just hysterics if anyone was concerned. That’s the point. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 14, 2020 09:43 AM
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
If it's the right thing to do, yes. But it's OK if someone is wrong, as long as it's removed from their conscience.
I don’t understand this. And Randall, what does this have to do with stacking courts? Something republicans have been doing for the last few years, by the way. She shouldn’t be impeached, she was doing the right thing. IP: Logged |
SecretGeek
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posted October 14, 2020 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by SecretGeek:
If it's the right thing to do, yes. But it's OK if someone is wrong, as long as it's removed from their conscience.
Teasel, we all have a soul, spirit (human spirit), and body, and optionally Holy Spirit. When we do something wrong, the wrongdoing is stored in our conscience in the spirit, not in our soul. To access and isolate our conscience so that it can be operated on to clear it, we can deny our soul (self) as in humility, and it exalts our spirit. After exalting our spirit, to remove the wrongdoing on our conscience, forgiveness and amends are required for the wrongdoing. If we remove the wrongdoings, our conscience is relatively clear and we know what right and wrong is better. Otherwise, our conscience can eventually become seared and we don't know what right and wrong is, like a psychopath. Our conscience is most clear when we are a baby. If not ever maintained, it is the most unclear the older we get. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted October 14, 2020 10:52 AM
She is a power hungry scumbag. Lock downs do nothing.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted October 14, 2020 10:55 AM
Appointing federal judges for open vacancies due to lazy Obama not filling them is not stacking the court.IP: Logged |
jwhop
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posted October 14, 2020 11:04 AM
"And Randall, what does this have to do with stacking courts? Something republicans have been doing for the last few years, by the way."More leftist loon talking points. Filling open seats in the Federal Judiciary isn't stacking the courts. It's adhering to the Constitution..which requires Presidents to nominate candidates to fill those empty seats and requires the US Senate to consider those nominations. Threatening...like a little juvenile thumb sucker who isn't getting their way...to destroy the character and function of the Supreme Court by adding Justices to act like another legislative body IS STACKING THE COURT. Now, how is it that you...who say you live in the United States...don't know or don't understand that? IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 14, 2020 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
She is a power hungry scumbag. Lock downs do nothing.
Wrong, and you support the power-hungry scumbags. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 14, 2020 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by Randall:
Appointing federal judges for open vacancies due to lazy Obama not filling them is not stacking the court.
Now he's lazy? IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 14, 2020 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by Belage:
I couldn't think of anyone who condones the kidnapping of Whitmer or anyone. @ teasel, stop getting your panties in a bunch over everything.
My panties weren't in a bunch. You think I'm raging, when I ask a question? In that thread the other night, I had intended to add that I respected your astrological posts (usually) - then I saw your post where you got personal with me. I wasn't offended, but your assumption was wrong. These people are in my State - I have people in my area, who agreed with the protesters going after Whitmer, and Amy Acton (who helped us through the first few months of Covid, before she quit due to harassment). In the past, I thought people were being melodramatic, when they talked about us being so divided, that we were on the verge of another civil war. This past Spring, when all of this started - that actually scared me. For the first time, I was worried that they might be right. I saw some friends getting lost in conspiracy theories, and pushing them - that's when I should have taken a break from here, and another place, because it's amazing to me, that people believe things like Plandemic. When I was having to argue against people dying for trump's re-election campaign, that was too much. You will also see that at least one person above, didn't say that it was wrong. She should be impeached - Randall, do you think she brought it on herself? I heard that the Sheriff did. That right there - that's one thing that's wrong with this country. IP: Logged |
shura
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From: kamaloka
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posted October 14, 2020 11:35 AM
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Originally posted by teasel:
That’s good to hear. Earlier this year, people weren’t bothered by the threats, because they agreed with the protesters. It wasn’t just hysterics if anyone was concerned. That’s the point.
teasel, many people are aware of insurgency movements. Many of us take them quite seriously. I think where those people differ is that some are exclusively concerned with right wing insurgency, and some are exclusively concerned with left wing insurgency. Both exist. Both are active. Both are dangerous. Members of this site have defended Antifa, but Ive seen no one defend this anarchist Michigan militia.
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teasel
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posted October 14, 2020 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by shura:
teasel, many people are aware of insurgency movements. Many of us take them quite seriously.I think where those people differ is that some are exclusively concerned with right wing insurgency, and some are exclusively concerned with left wing insurgency. Both exist. Both are active. Both are dangerous. Members of this site have defended Antifa, but Ive seen no one defend this anarchist Michigan militia.
You've reminded me of something else. I'll look for it. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted October 14, 2020 01:10 PM
She was put in her place by the Michigan Supreme Court and refuses to obey them, so she should be removed from office.IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted October 14, 2020 03:32 PM
A friend of mine just told me that one of these men is from her county. IP: Logged |
teasel
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posted January 09, 2021 12:53 PM
Nobody could have seen the coup attempt coming? IP: Logged |
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