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lalitree
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posted September 14, 2011 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalitree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
so, i will start off by saying this: I am a very logical person. i don't see this as bad, and i really dislike when people don't follow through with logic on every consideration.

but there have been certain things that have happened to me that completely baffle my logical mind. and this mind doesn't like this at all. i can watch it split; the part that has clearly observed the baffling phenomena and the part that cannot handle the way it seems to go against physical laws...

so to the story. where should i begin? perhaps with yesterday. last night. i lay in bed, sexually frustrated and thinking about how great it would suddenly be to become a soft-core porn actress. (you would have to know me to know just how weird and unexpected this would be for me to think)and as i really got into it, some random memory popped into my mind of having read somewhere, probably somewhere on lindaland, that thinking about sex opened up 'doorways' for interdimensional beings, and how i had thought it was a load of sh** and snort-laughed when i read it, and no sooner had i thought this than i heard something slam against the back door to the house, which my bedroom is directly beside. instantly all thoughts of sex were wiped from my mind. i was on the alert.
wondering, 'damnit, why does the weird stuff always have to happen when only i am awake?' because now the door was being rattled as if someone were trying their hardest to open it, or perhaps turn the deadbolt (the back door has a deadbolt that we only lock at night because it is super hard to turn). as i listened in my bed, now sitting up though, my heart racing, weighing the pros and cons of waking up my dad (i just knew the weirdness would go away as soon as i brought anyone)but what if it was someone who wanted to break in?
so i got mad, trying my best to not let fear get the best of me, after all i have a baby to defend, and i got out of bed and walked out to the hallway, turned on the light and watched the door, thinking "just you try to break in f*****" and as i listened and watched it sounded and looked like someone was trying to unbolt the top lock, the one that was really hard to turn! but then the noise would sound like it was coming from someone slamming against the outside of the door, then it would sound like a scrape against the wall in the next room, or another slam against the wall. and even the moments when it was dead silent and i would have, SHOULD have heard some footsteps, there were NONE. I could see my mind making up explanations, all of which unfortunately can be far too easily refuted. One was, could it be my cat? but the cat can't reach the freaking doorknob, for one, then once it's reached it actually rattle the door by trying to open it! and anyway he would be meowing if it was him. even if he'd slammed into the door it wouldn't have sounded that loud, unless he'd been thrown at it!
when i turned the light on to the room, it stopped shortly after

so i have put this in with all the other weird unexplainable things which have happened to me, but hadn't in a long time. there'd been a time maybe six or seven years ago when i'd also been sexually frustrated and I suddenly heard a voice (that i could just tell came from a smirking face) that said 'Heeey Now...' as i was thinking about sex. it sounded like someone was right next to me.

then, in the same house, there were nights, usually in a row, when, i would hear talking and laughter right outside my bedroom window at night, and always during the time from 12 to 1, and when i approached the window in anger, no matter how silently, it would stop! where did the people go?

then, at another house i lived in during college, there were a few nights in a row where i would be trying to fall asleep and there was a low knocking on my door. it was distinctly the sound of intelligent knocking, because it had a rhythm to it; intention...like the one two three, knock knock knock, you know? and it would go on for hours!

so i am thinking now...that no matter how much i want to live a life without weirdness, for whatever reason i have been forced to see that it happens. what do i make of it? and what does it mean that some of this stuff happened when i was thinking about something so forcefully that i wanted to be somewhere else all to myself, and especially last night, right at the moment i was thinking lightly about that, 'interdimensional being' idea? does it mean that is true? but why? i just fail to see the connection here. i am decidedly anti-superstitious, but after a while of this happening i think always during the 12-1 am period, and i read somewhere that that is 'a magic hour' or something, i can't help but see a connection even while i laugh at the ridiculousness of it... i am so baffled. there is no better word for this.

and i realize, i've never gotten a sense of evil from this...poltergeist, as i've now decided i have to call it...just a most defined--in your face sort of--impishness-mischievousness, i guess...

can anyone explain any of this to me?

like, why the lame things like knocking, and rattling doorknobs, and saying weirdo things by my ear... what is it exactly?

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lalitree
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posted September 14, 2011 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalitree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i hope someone can see how serious this is to me. i realize that most people who have never experienced such a thing will just overlook my memoirs here, and how can i blame them? i might do the same if i'd never had reason to think about and therefore wonder about the workings of such things

but i just wish they saw that it is true! i am sick of not being able to prove things, so most of the time i just don't even talk about it anymore to people. especially considering that personal thoughts are involved. but i NEED explanation! i have no reason to be telling tall-tales, i don't make sh** up and besides if i did it would be way cooler than what has actually happened to me. I just really really want to understand, to explain

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posted September 14, 2011 04:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lalitree:
i hope someone can see how serious this is to me. i realize that most people who have never experienced such a thing will just overlook my memoirs here, and how can i blame them? i might do the same if i'd never had reason to think about and therefore wonder about the workings of such things

but i just wish they saw that it is true! i am sick of not being able to prove things, so most of the time i just don't even talk about it anymore to people. especially considering that personal thoughts are involved. but i NEED explanation! i have no reason to be telling tall-tales, i don't make sh** up and besides if i did it would be way cooler than what has actually happened to me. I just really really want to understand, to explain


First off,
this kind of thing is not that uncommon but most folks will never admit to such happenings.
Thank you for being brave enough to tell!
You also said:
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and i realize, i've never gotten a sense of evil from this...poltergeist, as i've now decided i have to call it...just a most defined--in your face sort of--impishness-mischievousness, i guess...
Excellent!
Sounds like it could be a resonance or yes, an impish one.
Either way, do you desire to rid yourself of such or just know it is nothing to worry about?

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can anyone explain any of this to me?

like, why the lame things like knocking, and rattling doorknobs, and saying weirdo things by my ear... what is it exactly?



I shall try to do my best based on decades of these kinds of encounters and research by myself and others.
OK....
this does NOT mean it is your imagination.
However, we can "log in" so to speak to playful spirits or re-amp the resonances or echoes left in places by both incarnates and discarnates.
Also you have a child under the age of 23 correct?
In households with persons from infant to age 23 such contact/happenings are more common.
Teenagers especially "feed" these echoes/recordings and re-amp energize them.
Very seldom are these things actual entities.
Spirits would love to be able to manifest so well! However they usually cannot.
It is the incarnate who supplies the energy and causes the images and or sounds to be heard, but often only by themselves.
But that does not mean it is not real, it just means that only the sensitive causing the amping can see/hear/feel them.
Also many folks are unconsciously adept at psychokinesis.
This means they cause the sounds themselves.
Wouldn't it be great if we who can do such, could do it at command consciously?
Please feel free to ask me any questions about all this.
I believe you because I have witnessed this 100s of times myself and around others and have been called in to clear such out or help the person(s) deal with it whether from outside themselves or from themselves.
Also,
if this happens ever in 1/2 sleep, or dream, folks do at times of intense emotion or physical desire, dream share.
Sometimes with a person they know or sometimes with other wandering dreamers and even more extreme, what I call a lust mosh pit LOL!
For the most part fairly safe, just another part of unconscious/subconscious human interconnections that goes on all the time.
No demons or such.


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posted September 14, 2011 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starfox     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It sounds like an incubus is following you and feeding from your frustrations.!

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posted September 14, 2011 07:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by starfox:
It sounds like an incubus is following you and feeding from your frustrations.!


She would get a bad feeling if it were such as folks refer to as incubi,
in my opinion.
Such influence would also lead to out of control uber promiscuous sex with anyone and that is not her problem.
One overlayed by such also known as an April Witch, will boink any one willing.

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posted September 14, 2011 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalitree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LEXX:

One overlayed by such also known as an April Witch, will boink any one willing.


lol...(not that sometimes i haven't)


yes, i've been told that when it comes to admitting stuff about myself when i feel that it is important i can do it quite shamelessly. i think i place more emphasis on the human behavior observant part of myself than the actual affected/sentient part. i don't think this is either good or bad,(and i don't think it matters) but i realize most people always like to categorize that way so i will just let that be known

yes, LEXX, everything you said seems to fit things into place somehow, and i have also had that sense of 'ah-ha!' when i read on poltergeists and how sometimes these phenomena attach themselves to people, or sometimes to places, and i find it particularly interesting that i've read in almost all accounts that it has something to do with the person's mind--and especially teenage females? so i was like woaw...i am 23 now but most of this stuff happened when i was like 15-19

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posted September 14, 2011 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalitree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
it certainly FEELS like it is somehow--magnetically? attached to me--that is the best way to describe it. it's something like the sensation you get when two magnets are in each others' fields

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posted September 14, 2011 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalitree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but that is something i realize when thinking about it...every time that something like this has happened it has never been like instant "oh that must be my poltergeist buddy again!"

it always scares the s*** out of me...it's completely real

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posted September 14, 2011 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalitree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i WOULD very much like to know that it wouldn't happen ever again. but i don't think such a thing could be guaranteed somehow. like yesterday, it hadn't happened in so long it was completely unexpected. (the way my brain deals with things that don't make sense is by throwing them in the back room, i guess).

so--i feel instead it is more important to understand-than to wish it away. after all, i have always felt it is a part of me to heal with that which is deeply affected. perhaps, if this is some sort of entity-it needs my help in a way? like to fix some sort of baggage of its...do you think people can be used this way?

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posted September 15, 2011 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's been a long time since I've studied that paranormal, but I think you'd find the book Daimonic Reality: A Field Guide to the Otherworld an interesting read. Your library should be able to get it for you cheap or free via ILL (Inter Library Loan), assuming they don't already have it.

As for midnight as the witching hour, I'm more familiar with that as I spent time with an occultist and a few witches. Places that are "in between" are considered transcendent and magical. Examples include mountains (between land and sky), beaches (between land and sea), and crossroads (obvious). This also applies to time so that solstices and equinoxes (which are "in between" times seperating seasons) are also magical. For the same reason so is dusk and dawn, and noon and midnight (or more accurately, the mid-point).

This also applies to biology, so like puberty (between childhood and adulthood) can attract supernatural events as well, including poltergeists. Sex and poltergeists have often been linked, too.

Oh, btw, just for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzRiqOdJ7XE

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posted September 15, 2011 12:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lalitree
Dental issues today and other concerns.
So apologies for no full reply at the moment.

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posted September 16, 2011 06:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hehe, this threads reminds me of Arthur Machen's novella The Great God Pan (1890; 1894)

Synopsis

Mary, a young woman in Wales, has her mind destroyed by Dr Raymond's attempt to enable her to see the god of nature, Pan. Years later the beautiful but sinister-looking Helen Vaughan arrives on the London social scene, disturbing many young men and causing some of them to commit suicide. It transpires that she is the monstrous offspring of the god Pan and the woman in Raymond's experiment.

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posted September 16, 2011 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalitree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:

As for midnight as the witching hour, I'm more familiar with that as I spent time with an occultist and a few witches. Places that are "in between" are considered transcendent and magical. Examples include mountains (between land and sky), beaches (between land and sea), and crossroads (obvious). This also applies to time so that solstices and equinoxes (which are "in between" times seperating seasons) are also magical. For the same reason so is dusk and dawn, and noon and midnight (or more accurately, the mid-point).

Oh, btw, just for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzRiqOdJ7XE


okay...looking at it this way i can see how that would be. thank you.

(i'm going to watch the video later when i have my headphones, got no speakers here)

but do you have more info on why or how, poltergeists or energies are connected with sex?

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posted September 16, 2011 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalitree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LEXX:
lalitree
Dental issues today and other concerns.
So apologies for no full reply at the moment.



you don't need to apologize, but thank you for caring anyway

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posted September 16, 2011 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalitree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Lei_Kuei:
Hehe, this threads reminds me of Arthur Machen's novella The Great God Pan (1890; 1894)

Synopsis

disturbing many young men and causing some of them to commit suicide.


this sounds interesting--i have to read this now...

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posted September 16, 2011 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PixieJane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sex is seen as a primal energy, so either spirits like to feed off of it and/or the sex drive can trigger such energies. I can't recall that much as it's been over 10 years since I've read up on poltergeists but many of them were interested or affected by sex (and plenty who were sexually abused by poltergeists were victims of early childhood sexual abuse or a rape/attempted rape early on in life). And I was able to find these two (one dealing with it as PK, another as a spirit manifestation) fast enough by googling:
http://www.unexplainedstuff.com/Ghosts-and-Phantoms/Ghostly-Beings-Poltergeists.html

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Quite probably, according to many researchers, the sex changes that occur during puberty have a great deal to do with the peculiar type of PK that is responsible for poltergeist activity. Researchers have only begun to realize some of the vast chemical changes that take place in the body during adolescence. Who can say what may happen in the lower levels of the subconscious? Psychical researchers have noted that more often a girl than a boy is at the center of poltergeistic disturbances and that the sexual change of puberty is associated with either the beginning or the termination of the phenomena. Researchers have also observed that the sexual adjustments of the marital state can also trigger such phenomena

http://www.marciajedd.com/fun_articles/ghosts.htm

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But other types of spirits are akin to concentrations of energy, and the non-human realm can encompass parasites or psychic residues. "These parasites feed off human vibrations and become stronger or energized," says Steiger. Parasites can be found anywhere, often in public spaces such as hotel rooms.

Calvin goes so far as to suggest that a discarnate, non-human entity in search of a fix would attack a human sexually to gain energy. "Sexual energy is very strong, powerful energy," says Calvin. Indeed, orgasmic energy is associated with cosmic energy. Sexual energy, as the second chakra, is linked to creativity. That chakra is located in the sexual organs and governs relationships, sex, and reproduction


Oh, and btw, the video I linked to is just for fun, about someone trying to get to sleep but is haunted by a ghost. Ironically I've found it helpful in getting to sleep.

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posted September 16, 2011 09:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NickiG     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
that sounded like a good Gena Showalter book LOL

oh, and i had to say that i believe midnight is the bewitching hour....i'v heard that anytime between 12-1 am strange things happen

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I once saw a sign that said "sin is death" but if "all deaths are suicide (linda goodman)" and suicide is sin, then shouldnt "death is sin" be more appropriate?

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posted September 17, 2011 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lei_Kuei     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted September 17, 2011 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I will; just observe this thread for now since I have already pretty much given my point of view.

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posted September 18, 2011 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalitree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pixie Jane, thank you for the link to the song! i liked it. i think i will listen to more from this band

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posted September 19, 2011 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalitree     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PixieJane:

As for midnight as the witching hour, I'm more familiar with that as I spent time with an occultist and a few witches. Places that are "in between" are considered transcendent and magical. Examples include mountains (between land and sky), beaches (between land and sea), and crossroads (obvious). This also applies to time so that solstices and equinoxes (which are "in between" times seperating seasons) are also magical. For the same reason so is dusk and dawn, and noon and midnight (or more accurately, the mid-point).


i don't know why i hadn't made that connection before, because now that i do it makes sense of a lot more things too...like why every time i've had an out of body experience i've been in that limbo between sleep and waking (it happens when i woke up too soon and know i will be tired later so i force myself to go back to sleep) so--this would be a crossroads of sorts too

(by the way-i used to also get really freaked out by the obes, i mean REALLY freaked out, i would never have believed i would feel ambivalent towards them as i do now)


crossroads, crossroads--led me to thinking about everything really--sex is a way-between in a sense--energy is being exchanged/transformed--so many things

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