posted August 01, 2014 09:33 AM            

I've just had such an impending doom feeling regarding USA for little over 1 year. I have been talking about this with NUMEROUS friends, over many coffee cups, and we all agreed it's just something in the air...as if something REALLY bad is coming. It might not be this, or even the beginning of anything more serious, but the feeling remains unchanged.

I live in Europe now but this fear of something BIG happening played at least 40% part in me leaving. I am not one to worry about war or epidemics on a frequent basis but it's just something that keeps stirring in my body and mind...like when animals know a storm is coming..

Anyone else feel this way??

posted August 02, 2014 08:42 AM            

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posted August 02, 2014 04:25 PM            

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
I'm not worried about Ebola, but I do agree with your fear that something bad may happen. You have to wonder with Pluto in Aquarius on the horizon will something catastrophic cause the world to change.

I also don't think it would be limited to the US, I think world wide things may go downhill. I'm surprised you feel safer in Europe, because things over there are a little shaky and I have felt for a while something serious may happen over there.

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posted August 02, 2014 04:58 PM            

On the surface, it sounds frightening but Drs say one must contact body fluids to contract it.
If the hospitals and Drs do their job right, we are safe from contamination.

posted August 02, 2014 11:47 PM            

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Originally posted by charlie:
Safest I've felt was in China when I went there. I still don't have a doom feeling about Europe.....

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posted August 03, 2014 10:28 AM            

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Originally posted by StarlightSmileSupreme:
Don't worry, Cappy, you aren't in any danger.

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I wasn't worrried. I just had a disturbing dream with an ebola theme after reading this.

posted August 04, 2014 03:04 AM            

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Could sick aid workers being brought to the US spread the disease here?

No.

You can stand in a room with a person infected with Ebola ten feet across the room from you, and stand there for hours, without a mask, and you will not, can not, get Ebola. It simply isn’t transferred that way. Clean up Ebola vomit, Ebola diarrhea, physically move Ebola victims from bed to bed, give them a sponge bath, tend wounds or other injuries, insert and remove IV’s, handle the bodies of recently deceased Ebola victims, and especially, give traditional treatment to those bodies which, as is done in many cultures, which may involve cleaning and even internal cleaning or handling of organs, etc. etc., and you’ve got a reasonable chance of getting Ebola. Even then, the number of health care workers who actually get Ebola is probably very small. Tragic and horrible when it happens, but a few out of thousands most directly exposed and at risk for months is a small number.

The people who are being transported to the US are isolated, in negative pressure facilities, and are being handled with kid gloves. Well, latex gloves, actually. They can not infect anybody but their immediate caretakers, and those individuals are very well protected.

There is a risk of a different sort, though. While these particular patients are being handled with great care, there are healthy helpers, medical workers or others, who have been working with Ebola patients and seem to have not contracted the disease, who are occasionally wandering off to their respective homes and, I’m pretty sure, not being quarantined. I am not sure if all the people involved in helping in West Africa are being tested or properly watched. They may be, but there is some evidence that this is not the case. I’d like to learn more about that, and I hope we don’t learn anything the hard way.

One US based doctor has returned to the United States and decided to quarantine himself. Alan Jamison will keep himself separate from society for 21 days since his last potential exposure to Ebola.

If he is doing this on his own, there is the implication that doctors or others who were working with Ebola victims are being allowed two wander off and commune with the rest of us with the prospect that they are infected and eventually could spread the disease. However, I’m not sure that this is true. I don’t know that Dr. Jamison was not tested, I don’t know how much exposure he had and I don’t know what the procedure is for managing this potential problem. This is one guy who may be making hay where there is no grass. Worst case scenario, though, is that a health worker gets sick, the beginnings of Ebola like symptoms emerge, and the health worker gets treated. Nobody who has been working with Ebola patient is going to get a head ache, feel like throwing up, and say to themselves, “Hmm. I wonder if I’ve got allergies or something?”

We should be worried about people wandering off, leaving the sites of the outbreak, generally. That’s clearly how this has spread to begin with. This applies to health workers and regular people. It applies to journalists in the field. We should not assume, but we can reasonably hope, that people are doing the right thing. But even when they don’t, remember, this is not measles, which is highly contagious.

(Also, in case you didn’t know, Ebola is of course already in the United States. See this.)

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posted August 07, 2014 11:33 AM            

This article rings true to me

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posted August 17, 2014 10:53 AM              

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Originally posted by charlie:
I've just had such an impending doom feeling regarding USA for little over 1 year. I have been talking about this with NUMEROUS friends, over many coffee cups, and we all agreed it's just something in the air...as if something REALLY bad is coming. It might not be this, or even the beginning of anything more serious, but the feeling remains unchanged.

I live in Europe now but this fear of something BIG happening played at least 40% part in me leaving. I am not one to worry about war or epidemics on a frequent basis but it's just something that keeps stirring in my body and mind...like when animals know a storm is coming..

Anyone else feel this way??

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posted August 17, 2014 12:28 PM            

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Originally posted by FireMoon:
Yeah I've been feeling this way for a while now too. I don't think it'll be Ebola but it'll be something...

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Yeah, it'll be something...something big

posted August 21, 2014 03:37 PM            

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posted August 22, 2014 02:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
I read the Hot Zone. People with really good immune systems just got the flu. They were looking at this in Africa.

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posted August 22, 2014 11:45 AM              

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Originally posted by charlie:
Yeah, it'll be something...something big

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posted August 22, 2014 12:56 PM              

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Originally posted by charlie:
How does one up one's immune system?

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