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Topic: Ok, I Have Successfully Freaked myself Out!
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Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 05:52 PM
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Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70238 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2011 06:07 PM
There is no one fated to be bad or thrown away! Some people have more challenges. Only God knows why imo However, all things can be turned to good and transformed imo ------------------ Do You Think This Psychic Is Cute? http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
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popcorn Knowflake Posts: 3342 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 23, 2011 06:20 PM
OMG. Ive not read what IQ write but I wish people felt good comes out....IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 06:20 PM
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Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 06:30 PM
quote: Originally posted by popcorn: OMG. Ive not read what IQ write but I wish people felt good comes out....
Popcorn, just to clarify, iQ didn't write any of this. I went to his site to find out significant asteroids to look up, then I saw a pattern in the ones I had chosen. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 06:31 PM
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Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 06:52 PM
Lucifer is in the 12th house. Lovely.I should stick to tarot, this is wack. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70238 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 23, 2011 07:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: Lucifer is in the 12th house. Lovely.I should stick to tarot, this is wack.
Lucifer is pride not dark entities. I am a Bible believer. I DO believe in possession and oppression.However, it can be cast out and away. It is not fated !
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 4148 From: Miami Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 10:16 PM
I think everyone has a dark side (thanatos) and a side that wants to transcend, grow and create (Eros). The question is I guess which one prevails in you, destruction or creation? and how do you deal with your destructive side? IP: Logged |
sand Knowflake Posts: 10270 From: Registered: May 2011
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posted August 23, 2011 10:53 PM
i'm not gonna fully read this thread coz it freaked me out already with the lucifer talk!IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 24, 2011 03:02 AM
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Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 24, 2011 03:06 AM
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Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 24, 2011 03:10 AM
quote: Originally posted by sand: i'm not gonna fully read this thread coz it freaked me out already with the lucifer talk!
Don't worry. Lucifer is most likely just a concept. Whatever you believe will grow. Your mind is capable of much scarier stuff than lucifer, believe me. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 24, 2011 03:22 AM
And Ami,I didn't realise that psychic powers and belief in the bible could co-exist ... doesn't the bible state that such things are purely witchcraft and the work of the devil? (yet talking to a being you can't see called 'god' is OK. How confusing!) This may be a purely catholic thing though (jesus, were we allowed to do ANYTHING?!), as that was my forced initiation into all things biblical. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 24, 2011 03:29 AM
You know, I think the lucifer is just a type of energy. A dark one certainly, but dark doesn't mean 'evil'. Evil is a choice. One I don't make. So all good there. I now feel ridiculous for thinking that anything could get into my mind without my allowing it. I have worked with my mind enough to know better than that. My energy is stronger than anything that may attempt to 'break in' and take over, because it comes from a place of love and inspiration, not intrusion and power-hunger.Or is the above my lucifer pride? Haha. I think it's all funny now. I'm actually quite happy to see all these wacky things. I'm over the fear. And now I just wanna know how I can use them, so to my astro jotter! IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 24, 2011 03:41 AM
Oh, and I forgot to mention that the lucifer is retrograde in Libra, which is even more confusing.I've yet to figure out the nature of retrograde, although with it purely being an optical illusion, is it really significant? Lucifer and Libra seem to be naturally opposed, with lucifer representing self-gratification and excess/greed, and Libra representing social harmony and balance. Hmmm. IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 24, 2011 04:24 AM
This is interesting to say the least:"Astrologically, Lucifer was of the combined nature of Virgo, Libra, and Scorpio, which according to esoteric tradition, were then one sign(and one planet). Virgo was Lucifer's purity and dedication. Libra was Lucifer's perfect beauty and wisdom, and Scorpio was Lucifer's dark or extreme side. These three qualities made Lucifer too powerful or gifted for his own good and led to his conceit, rebellion, and downfall. Before Lucifer's unruly power got out of hand, he was supernaturally cut down and changed forever. His essence was literally divided into three separate parts so that he was greatly weakened and no longer posed a threat. Lucifer became the new signs of Virgo, Libra, and Scorpio, increasing the zodiac from ten to twelve signs." From: http://www.librarising.com/cosmology/luciferplanets.html IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 24, 2011 04:33 AM
OK, from this I can derive that Lucifer may represent the abuse of power, or the dilution of power. It's interesting that the above source states he was divided into 3 - just like the holy trinity...IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70238 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 24, 2011 09:58 AM
quote: Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: And Ami,I didn't realise that psychic powers and belief in the bible could co-exist ... doesn't the bible state that such things are purely witchcraft and the work of the devil? (yet talking to a being you can't see called 'god' is OK. How confusing!) This may be a purely catholic thing though (jesus, were we allowed to do ANYTHING?!), as that was my forced initiation into all things biblical.
You can ask me anything Darling.I am an open book
Well, as with many things in my life, I have been forced to find my own paradigm. However,let me say that I am 100% a Bible believer and follower--a literal Bible believer lol
"Witchcraft" as defined in the Bible is not Astrology nor is it Psychic phenomena. I studied and prayed long and hard to come to my conclusions which are 100% right for me. Saul and the Witch of Endor was a contacting of the dead which is forbidden by the Bible. The Holy Spirit can tell you of "things to come". That is MY psychic ability. I state this clearly to anyone who uses my gift. I am as sold out to Jesus as anyone and only wish to be more. That is my life purpose. If God ever directs me that what I am doing is not pleasing to Him I will drop it right away--no questions asked. He is using me in my way with my gifts for His glory.It is ALL about Him and not about me. Please feel free to ask me anything at any time !
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juniperb Moderator Posts: 9914 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2011 02:46 PM
Voix, breath deep and don`t get lost in details If you see a boogyman, then they exist, yes? If you don`t see the boogyman.... ------------------ Submit to Love without thinking, as the sun rose this morning recklessly, extinguishing our star-candled minds. Rumi IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Moderator Posts: 70238 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted August 24, 2011 03:09 PM
Some people have much more challenging charts which is parallel their much more challenging lives imeIP: Logged |
juniperb Moderator Posts: 9914 From: Blue Star Kachina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 24, 2011 03:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Ami Anne: Some people have much more challenging charts which is parallel their mush more challenging lives ime
I don`t understand. ------------------ Submit to Love without thinking, as the sun rose this morning recklessly, extinguishing our star-candled minds. Rumi IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 4148 From: Miami Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 25, 2011 01:08 AM
quote: Originally posted by Voix_de_la_Mer: This is interesting to say the least:"Astrologically, Lucifer was of the combined nature of Virgo, Libra, and Scorpio, which according to esoteric tradition, were then one sign(and one planet). Virgo was Lucifer's purity and dedication. Libra was Lucifer's perfect beauty and wisdom, and Scorpio was Lucifer's dark or extreme side. These three qualities made Lucifer too powerful or gifted for his own good and led to his conceit, rebellion, and downfall. Before Lucifer's unruly power got out of hand, he was supernaturally cut down and changed forever. His essence was literally divided into three separate parts so that he was greatly weakened and no longer posed a threat. Lucifer became the new signs of Virgo, Libra, and Scorpio, increasing the zodiac from ten to twelve signs." From: http://www.librarising.com/cosmology/luciferplanets.html
You know I am a virgo and have had two serious relationships: one with a scorpio with venus in Libra and the one I am in now who is a Libra with mars in scorpio. Would this mean that my relationships have Luciferian qualities? I attract those two signs so easily.....I wonder if there is a connection? what do you think? IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 25, 2011 04:31 AM
quote: Originally posted by juniperb: Voix, breath deep and don`t get lost in details If you see a boogyman, then they exist, yes? If you don`t see the boogyman....
Ahh another voice of reason - thank you! I have a tendency to the extreme when I think I may have discovered something incredibly bad or incredibly good - I get all excited haha IP: Logged |
Voix_de_la_Mer Moderator Posts: 2156 From: Sound Registered: Aug 2011
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posted August 25, 2011 04:35 AM
Amelia28,I don't really understand the nature of Lucifer in astrology atm, so I'm not sure. I've read that the asteroids really only have weight if they are strongly aspected against the main planets in the chart, but you make an interesting point ... It's worth looking into, though I would say that you might want to be looking more at the Scorpio connection, as that seems to be the common denominator here IP: Logged |