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Topic: chariklo conjunct venus synastry
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bttrklk
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posted September 04, 2011 07:29 AM
  
what does it mean if a man's chariklo conjunct woman's venus in synastry chart? i couldn't find enough info about chariklo  i think the man may find the woman purely beautiful or may be obsessed about the woman or may find the qualities that chariklo represents in the woman's feminity.i think it's a good aspect between two charts,what do you think?IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic
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posted September 04, 2011 02:39 PM
Did you look at the stuff Zane Stein has done? Wasn't chariklo the wife of chiron?Neither chariklo nor chiron would create obsession. It's just not a word associated with either.
http://www.zanestein.com/chariklo.htm http://markandrewholmes.com/chariklo.html
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bttrklk
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posted September 04, 2011 03:11 PM
yes,i have read it before i create the topic.Good keywords for Chariklo would be gazing into the future, questioning reality, investigation, imagination, cynicism, skepticism, speculation, obsession, beauty, glamor, grace, glitter, "gee-whiz", limelight, adoration, celebrity, charisma, prepossession, role-playing, fascination, social hierarchy, insecurity, boundaries, alienation, need for affirmation and acceptance, need for selectivity about associations, conditional acceptance, acting on the basis of first impressions, superficial appearances or initial emotional responses. in this quote, there is an assosiation between obsession and chariklo IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic
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posted September 04, 2011 04:10 PM
I don't see where it comes from, I see it in the list above, but I don't understand how they got obsession from the myths about her. Are you on facebook? There's a group on their that is about the centaurs and outer bodies, you could ask there and Zane might even answer.IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic
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posted September 04, 2011 07:02 PM
I've asked the question in the fb group, I'll get back to you when I get an answer bttrklk  IP: Logged |
mintgirl123
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posted September 05, 2011 05:07 AM
wow random. How about sticking to the basic asteroids lol. And in the list of adj describing what it means, most seem really negative. o_OI don't think it's a good idea to try to put a positive spin on sth when it seems more negative? IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic
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posted September 05, 2011 11:14 AM
As chiron's wife and one of the "centaurs", chariklo is considered one of the basic asteroids. I don't think she's all that negative especially compared to some of the others. When you look at greek myth you find that there is a an awful lot of tragedy because it reflects the struggles inherent in life. I understand what you mean about things being fluffed up when it's negative but personally I don't do fluff. However if I find something valuable within a pile of muck then I will give it some attention. I've seen far more examples around here of "negative" asteroids that are completely demonized. All coins have two sides. I had issue with some of the keywords used which was why I took it to the group where I know both of the authors of those articles hang out. Zane has already replied and I'll post it after this. I get annoyed when the asteroids are used out of context...but I mean that in a frustrated kind of a way. Some of it is just a result of bad advice that gets passed around and I'm sure I've been guilty of that one myself a time or two. Personally, if I was looking at chariklo, I wouldn't care too much if she aspected someone else's planets because I'd be looking for the relationship between chariklo and chiron. In myth they were a couple so it would make more sense to use them as a pair. In a natal chart it would be different because it would affect the nature of your planet or you might find that you act out the myth in reality. So if you had natal venus con chariklo you could be attracted to healer /teacher types. If it was con your sun, you could embody the characteristics of chariklo in your personality... Chariklo isn't one I've looked at in much depth but I don't think she's really considered in a bad light. IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic
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posted September 05, 2011 11:21 AM
I've just copied and pasted this
Hey everyone, this is a question about Chariklo. There was a question posed on a forum that I moderate in about what Chariklo being conjunct someone's Venus could mean and I linked to 2 articles, 1 from Zane and the other from Mark Andrew Holmes. The keyword obsession was mentioned and I'm struggling to see where that fits in. Can someone please explain it to me? Was it something that was noticed in the example charts or does it come from an aspect of the myth? Thanks for your time.
Zane B Stein I have never really seen Chariklo as 'obsession'. One of the first things that came up in my research for this body was the idea, "Question reality". http://zanestein.com/chariklo.htm Some other keys I associate with Chariklo: Going beyond one's reality, not letting the mind be limited by apparent reality, choosing to open a door in spite of possible consequences. I recently wrote an article for an NCGR newsletter on the little body in which I wrote, "Charikio is the energy that gives you the feeling it is OK to go off in a new direction, OK to step outside of your security zone. It gives you the permission to
imagine another reality." And on another level, Chariklo works with Chiron, helping one to not just accept one's wounds, but to like the very things about oneself that once one thought of as 'ugly' or 'bad' because they made one 'different'. IP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic
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posted September 05, 2011 11:23 AM
So taking that into account, I'd say if his chariklo was con someones venus it could imply that he opens some sort of a door for her loving nature to step through.IP: Logged |
bttrklk
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posted September 05, 2011 03:27 PM
yes,you're right.i think it may also mean that man can help woman to accept the wounds about her venusian side if the man's chariklo conjunct with the woman's venus,especially if the woman has afflicted venus in her natal chart.maybe woman finds herself ugly,man can help woman to see herself from a different perspective,in other words man can open a door for woman to see herself differently and feel beautiful.i think the man finds the woman beautiful because chariklo was very beautiful,so he can help the woman to feel beautifulIP: Logged |
dysfunctionalmystic
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posted September 05, 2011 03:57 PM
yes, but if it's the man's chariklo - the woman will also find the man very beautiful because he's chariklo. If I get any more answers on it I'll make sure I post them here. IP: Logged |
bttrklk
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posted September 06, 2011 04:09 PM
i think this aspect in synastry may also mean opening a new door for discovering sexuality.because i read that chariklo is also about discrimination of women into two groups due to their sexual approaches: good women and bad women.according to the article that i read,chariklo is about closing the gap between these two groups.so maybe the man with chariklo
help the woman with venus to discover her own sexuality.in the example i asked,chariklo and venus conjunct in aries in the 29th degree.29th degree is an important point and increases the planets' powers in the charts.if we bear in mind the fiery nature of aries venus, i think sexuality can be one of the themes of these aspect IP: Logged |
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