posted November 05, 2012 09:06 AM            

I would like help understanding the meaning of asteroid Circe which features very strongly in my chart please!

Here is some of the information I found out online about the 'witch' asteroid Circe...

Circe is asteroid 34 and a mythological witch who turned her enemies into animals. She used potions, necromancy, spells etc. She held the hero Odysseus captive on her island in the amazing book by Homer.

****** http://www.astrologycritics.com/testimonies-for-circe.html

"The asteroid Circe (discovered 1855), is named after this goddess.

Martha Lang-Wescott analysis

"Circe shares with Jupiter the desire to help; [...] Circe perceives itself as a helper and a facilitator. Its position indicates who, how and, most importantly, why you aid others. [...] In mythology, Circe turned men into swine -so expect some sorcery in connection with offers of aid- along with a need to examine motives for "being so helpful." [...] While Circe may feel impelled to help, beneath its benign exterior may be the sub-message that you can`t do it, that you need or require help."

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http://mysticmedusa.com/2009/07/astro-fiends-asteroid-34-circe/

"Circe was an enchantress who had a year long relationship with the hero-warrior Ulysses. It was a bit complicated as she first tried to put a spell on him & she also turned his team of trusty helpers into swine. Plus he was married. The accounts vary but her father was the Sun-God Helios/Apollo & her mother either the Goddess of Witches – Hecate or a sea nymph. Circe was an accomplished mistress of metamorphing, a skilled herbalist, necromancer and illusionist. The term “holy moly” is linked to her tale. Moly is an old name for the flower Snowdrop, the essence of which Ulysses used as an antidote to her witchy potion.

Astrologically, she is asteroid number 34. You can use the Extended Chart Options on Astrodienst to see where Circe is in your chart or anyone elses and by transit. Not much is said about asteroid Circe in astrology – she would clearly be an influence of magic, cunning & libido. She is loosely trine my Ascendent but i weirdly found asteroid Circe to be present by transit a lot…Theoretically, she’d come in handy for betwitching men…At the moment she’s at 10 Libra. A man with Circe near his Moon, Venus or Descendent would find himself unfathomably drawn to witches."

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Has anyone else had experience with this asteroid?

Especially in aspect to Sun/Moon/Pluto??

Thanks in advance!

posted November 05, 2012 09:11 AM            

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posted November 05, 2012 09:18 AM            

For a start, my Circe aspects include:

**Circe Grand Trine**
Moon/*Regulus trine Circe (orb 0/1)
Circe trine Zeus (orb 0)
Zeus trine Circe (orb 0)

Circe conjunct Sun (orb 3)

There is also a Circe Grand Cross (orb 0/1) plus a Circe Yod (orb 0/1).

As I said, Circe is probably (next to Mercury) the most aspected body in my chart, but unlike mercury the Circe orbs are all very very close.

Thanks in advance for any insights about this asteroid and her influence.

posted November 05, 2012 10:14 AM            

Menakaure was one of the Ancient Egyptain Pharaohs to built of the three pyramids of Giza and to be buried inside of their tombs.

posted November 05, 2012 10:20 AM            

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Originally posted by ail221:
I have Circe in Gemini 28'37
conjunct Menakaure in gemini (1.03) orb
conjunct Venus in Gemini exact
conjunct Varuna in Gemini exact

Menakaure was one of the Ancient Egyptain Pharaohs to built of the three pyramids of Giza and to be buried inside of their tombs.

In the mythology of ancient India Varuna was the god of the all-embracing sky, separating the Cosmos from the Chaos and protecting the people from the Evil

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posted November 05, 2012 11:19 AM            

Nofretete is there, Caesar, Kleopatra (though quite wide: 3-4 degrees), Merlin, Robinhood, Jung, Tesla etc.

posted November 05, 2012 05:54 PM            

I actually have past life memories of being a witch ( have since I was a child) and things didn't go so well In any case, I think that energy in this life is meant to be healing and is representing a new start by being conjunct Chiron and at 0 degrees. Also conjunct my Anti-vertex which is a point of more control than the Vertex from what I have read.

posted November 05, 2012 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
Actually, I have her connected to my T-square. She is at the critical degree of 0 Taurus and is conjunct Chiron, square Saturn, opposite Uranus and also conjunct my Anti-Vertex.
She is also sextile my Sun (which also conjuncts Venus).

I actually have past life memories of being a witch ( have since I was a child) and things didn't go so well In any case, I think that energy in this life is meant to be healing and is representing a new start by being conjunct Chiron and at 0 degrees. Also conjunct my Anti-vertex which is a point of more control than the Vertex from what I have read.

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What are you saying? Are we talking Salem Witch Trial stuff or are you saying that being a witch means you were a villain?

Actually not all witches are bad, so having been a witch in and of itself doesn't mean you did anything wrong that you were punished for, either in this life or the last one. Other chart indicators can give you a better idea of whether you were a bad one or a good one - ask iQ, he can fill you in.

I wasn't a witch in a past life but according to him I attended a Mystery School and knew my way around the occult and metaphysical pretty well. Apparently I was one of the good occultists but at some point I used the ability in a way that was somewhat questionable.

"Misuse of power to order deaths of those who may have been innocent, but you would have assumed they too would become dangerous. This is a regular folly of those in power, difference being that you would have used clairvoyant powers in support of your decision but it is still against karmic laws."

I've had people accuse me of being a black magic type of witch in this lifetime (even though I don't practice witchcraft).iQ looked at my chart and told me that I do have innate abilities in those areas, but that it was "impossible" for me to be of the "dark polarity" in this incarnation.

posted November 05, 2012 09:37 PM            

So, Circe indicates involvement in the esoteric in past lives or esoteric gifting available for use in the present life.

posted November 06, 2012 01:14 AM            

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Originally posted by Curious Bull:
Hey thanks everyone!

So, Circe indicates involvement in the esoteric in past lives or esoteric gifting available for use in the present life.

Is deciding which just a matter of intuition?

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posted November 06, 2012 01:54 AM            

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Originally posted by StacyLewis:
What are you saying? Are we talking Salem Witch Trial stuff or are you saying that being a witch means you were a villain?

Actually not all witches are bad, so having been a witch in and of itself doesn't mean you did anything wrong that you were punished for, either in this life or the last one. Other chart indicators can give you a better idea of whether you were a bad one or a good one - ask iQ, he can fill you in.

I wasn't a witch in a past life but according to him I attended a Mystery School and knew my way around the occult and metaphysical pretty well. Apparently I was one of the good occultists but at some point I used the ability in a way that was somewhat questionable.

"Misuse of power to order deaths of those who may have been innocent, but you would have assumed they too would become dangerous. This is a regular folly of those in power, difference being that you would have used clairvoyant powers in support of your decision but it is still against karmic laws."

I've had people accuse me of being a black magic type of witch in this lifetime (even though I don't practice witchcraft).iQ looked at my chart and told me that I do have innate abilities in those areas, but that it was "impossible" for me to be of the "dark polarity" in this incarnation.

Innate occult or metaphysical abilities are just that - abilities. Having them doesn't mean a person is bad, it's all about how one chooses to use them.

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I guess I was a little vague in my post. I wasn't by any means saying that being a witch/wiccan or having an innate esoteric understanding of the universe is bad. My memory is of being punished but not because I was "bad" or did anything wrong.

posted November 06, 2012 05:19 AM            

Many people into esoteric arts were killed in ages past simply for using their arts for good. One of my ancestors included. She wasn't a bad woman. She was set a trap, and her only crime was being a healer and being willing to assist.

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
I guess I was a little vague in my post. I wasn't by any means saying that being a witch/wiccan or having an innate esoteric understanding of the universe is bad. My memory is of being punished but not because I was "bad" or did anything wrong.

In any case, in this lifetime, I think that the square to Saturn is in part because of the fear of being punished again. Circe is in my 12th house and Saturn is conjunct my IC. I think it's a root fear thing from a past life, that's all.

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posted November 06, 2012 06:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Sorcha:
actually have past life memories of being a witch ( have since I was a child) and things didn't go so well

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yeah, ain`t you right about that!

I even had the burnmark for many years on my calf to "prove" it.

posted November 06, 2012 06:59 AM            

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Originally posted by Curious Bull:
I have some very clear past life fears/avoidances too that I carried into this one... Not sure where they are in my chart though! Too new to all this. I'm sure I will discover...

Many people into esoteric arts were killed in ages past simply for using their arts for good. One of my ancestors included. She wasn't a bad woman. She was set a trap, and her only crime was being a healer and being willing to assist.

:-(

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posted November 06, 2012 07:03 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
yeah, ain`t you right about that!

I even had the burnmark for many years on my calf to "prove" it.

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Yeah I had a thing with my neck that started out of nowhere when I turned 18. After that I was afraid to have anyone touch my neck for over 10 years. I still get the willies sometimes but it's better than it was.

posted November 06, 2012 07:15 AM            

I got the feeling I was being burned.
Not only I had that peculiar big birthmark that looked like a burnwound, but I was totally panickstricken when there was even just a candle burning and it took my parents years to teach me to light a candle, as I was so scared of anything having to do with fire.

Some of my earliest dreams I remember was being about either our house catching fire and us in the danger or actually being burned inside, and I actually "remember" (it had been such an early memory, that I can`t say if it was a film I saw, or a dream I had or a real past life memory) myself being bound standing on some kind of podium and the fire licking at my feet. I do not remember anything further than that (luckily), but often it seems to me like I was being born with the "smell of burnt flesh" in my nose.

Interestingly, when I started doing astrology, my mum would keep on warning me to be not so open about it so others do not recognize you "as a witch". She means it in a humurous way, but often has joked about how she thinks that if she (and me) had lived in previous times, we would probably have been prosecuted as witches (she sais that because neither her nor me really ever succumbed to "intellectual authorities" in younger age; it is probably the one big thing we have in common, the need to think for ourselves and being granted the option to express our own thoughts in our own way; though at the same time if we are not thinking around the same lines, we clash quite fiercely).

posted November 06, 2012 03:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Seems you were beheaded then.

I got the feeling I was being burned.
Not only I had that peculiar big birthmark that looked like a burnwound, but I was totally panickstricken when there was even just a candle burning and it took my parents years to teach me to light a candle, as I was so scared of anything having to do with fire.

Some of my earliest dreams I remember was being about either our house catching fire and us in the danger or actually being burned inside, and I actually "remember" (it had been such an early memory, that I can`t say if it was a film I saw, or a dream I had or a real past life memory) myself being bound standing on some kind of podium and the fire licking at my feet. I do not remember anything further than that (luckily), but often it seems to me like I was being born with the "smell of burnt flesh" in my nose.

Interestingly, when I started doing astrology, my mum would keep on warning me to be not so open about it so others do not recognize you "as a witch". She means it in a humurous way, but often has joked about how she thinks that if she (and me) had lived in previous times, we would probably have been prosecuted as witches (she sais that because neither her nor me really ever succumbed to "intellectual authorities" in younger age; it is probably the one big thing we have in common, the need to think for ourselves and being granted the option to express our own thoughts in our own way; though at the same time if we are not thinking around the same lines, we clash quite fiercely).

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That's interesting about how it began at very young age for you. I can relate to the body markings part in that I have ...something on my body which, if this was a different year, would have me burned at the stake inside a minute.

How nice though that you and your mother can at least relate about that stuff

The axe thing for me is actually to do with my stomach (another body part which I would not allow anyone to touch for years - it made me feel sick.) That started when I was about 8 or 9 though. I think the neck thing was a hanging thing and began spontaneously one day just after I turned 18.... it does make me wonder how many incarnations I have spent in a healing-type capacity.

posted November 06, 2012 05:26 PM            

I was not burnt, neither was i beheaded. I died in the prison due to to the plague. I had trust problems earlier in this life, because my friend in that life was the one that betrayed me, people would turn away from me and noone cared, because all my loved ones had already passed away. I was alone, i was dying and it was horrible. I also remember... one of my first dreams of that lifeline - a man with a black coat or something like that, with a long, black hat... at that point i knew nothing of Matthew Hopkins or whatsoever. But when i recalled the century, other things that happenned to me, the name, etc. I found that. And i stumbled across this Hopkins. It was his portrait there and it strucked me like a lightning - it was the man from my dream. And he actually was there - in Essex, at the time i remember. Turns out i knew him, he was there..

posted November 06, 2012 05:51 PM            

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Originally posted by Aeline:
Sorcha! Mine are also from England! Have your memories anything to do with Essex / 1645?

I was not burnt, neither was i beheaded. I died in the prison due to to the plague. I had trust problems earlier in this life, because my friend in that life was the one that betrayed me, people would turn away from me and noone cared, because all my loved ones had already passed away. I was alone, i was dying and it was horrible. I also remember... one of my first dreams of that lifeline - a man with a black coat or something like that, with a long, black hat... at that point i knew nothing of Matthew Hopkins or whatsoever. But when i recalled the century, other things that happenned to me, the name, etc. I found that. And i stumbled across this Hopkins. It was his portrait there and it strucked me like a lightning - it was the man from my dream. And he actually was there - in Essex, at the time i remember. Turns out i knew him, he was there..

I wonder, if he's reincarnated now, and i'd meet him, would i recognise?

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Aeline,

I actually cannot recall time periods at all. Wish I could. I do know that my fascination/understanding/knowledge of the medieval period is connected but years escape me. I only have flashes of moments. So...maybe?

I only know that my neck was affected so I was probably hung. Or as Ceri mentioned maybe I was beheaded (but perhaps in a different lifetime?) I am uncomfortable around blades still, even cutting vegetables. Lol.

You seem to recall quite a lot visually. I have more sense memories - like smells - of straw on the ground of a home, being on horseback, standing in a field/the wind on my face, the dank, stale air of a castle, people with onion breath....etc. The smell of a horse still comforts me inexpressibly

Dying of the plague sounds awful. Especially alone. If you met Hopkins now I imagine you might have some strong feelings but that would also depend on if you have met him in any intervening lifetimes as well.