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Aeline
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posted July 19, 2012 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
n Greek mythology the Hyperboreans (Ancient Greek: Ὑπερβόρε(ι οι, pronounced [hyperbóre(ː ɔi̯]; Latin: Hyperborei) were a mythical people who lived far to the north of Thrace. The Greeks thought that Boreas, the North Wind,[1] lived in Thrace, and that therefore Hyperborea was an unspecified region in the northern lands that lay beyond the north wind. Their land, called Hyperborea or Hyperboria – "beyond the Boreas" – was perfect, with the sun shining twenty-four hours a day, which to modern ears suggests a possible location within the Arctic Circle.


Ancient identification with Britain

Hyperborea was identified with Britain first by Hecataeus of Abdera in the 4th century BC, as in a preserved fragment by Diodorus Siculus:

In the regions beyond the land of the Celts there lies in the ocean an island no smaller than Sicily. This island, the account continues, is situated in the north and is inhabited by the Hyperboreans, who are called by that name because their home is beyond the point whence the north wind (Boreas) blows; and the island is both fertile and productive of every crop, and has an unusually temperate climate.

Hecateaus of Abdera also wrote that the Hyperboreans had a 'circular temple' on their island, and some scholars have identified this with Stonehenge. This is further supported by the fact that Stonehenge has been known as Apollo's Temple since classical antiquity, and Hyperborea in Greek legend was related to Apollo (see Legends below).

Pseudo-Scymnus, around 90 BC, wrote that Boreas dwelled at the extremity of Gaulish territory, and that he had a pillar erected in his name on the edge of the sea (Periegesis, 183). Some have claimed this is a geographical reference to northern France, and Hyperborea as the British Isles which lay just beyond the English Channel.

Ptolemy (Geographia, 2. 21) and Marcian of Heraclea (Periplus, 2. 42) both placed Hyperborea in the North Sea which they called the "Hyperborean Ocean"

Hyperborea in modern esoteric thought

H.P. Blavatsky, Rene Guenon and Julius Evola all shared the belief in the Hyperborean, polar origins of humankind and a subsequent solidification and devolution. According to these esoterists, Hyperborea was the Golden Age polar center of civilization and spirituality; mankind does not rise from the ape, but progressively devolves into the apelike condition as it strays physically and spiritually from its mystical otherworldly homeland in the Far North, succumbing to the demonic energies of the South Pole, the greatest point of materialization (see Joscelyn Godwin, Arktos: The Polar Myth).

Robert Charroux first related the Hyperboreans to an ancient astronaut race of "reputedly very large, very white people" who had chosen "the least warm area on the earth because it corresponded more closely to their own climate on the planet from which they originated". Miguel Serrano was influenced by Charroux's writings on the Hyperboreans

I've got this one exactly conjunct my ASC, that's why i'm curious, hah.

Where is your Hyperborea?

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Aeline
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posted July 19, 2012 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As to say, i want to add. I believe that the term Hyperborea was referred to Britain, as it is mentioned there. I back this version, because all the past lives i've recalled, i have lived in Britain. And this one with ASC, i guess, that's what it is.

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posted July 19, 2012 09:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ceridwen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I also have quite a few past life recalls taking place in Britain (and Mesopotamia for some reason).

In my chart Hyperborea is on 29 Scorpio conjunct Mesopotamia on 28 Scorpio and Valentine on 27 Scorpio in my 12th house of past lives.


In the chart of the guy whom the past life recalls centred on Hyperborea is on 5 Cancer conjunct Valentine on 6 Cancer trine Mesopotamia on 6 Pisces.


Which means in our composite we have

Hyperborea conjunct Valentine on 17 Virgo exact,
opposite (Karma on 18 Pisces conjunct Vesta on 17 Pisces conj. Stonehenge on 14 Pisces)
trine Mesopotamia on 16 Capricorn


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posted July 19, 2012 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You see, it's there, near the ASC, right? Anyway, 12th house itself is next to the ASC, so it does count.. Fascinating.


I just wonder, why i didn't see it earlier, i was looking for some celtic asteroids, but it didn't make any sense. And now with this one i got just - wow.

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posted July 19, 2012 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anchi     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
interesting.

i have

Hyperborea trine Pluto 0.29

Hyperborea trine Calliope (muse of epic poetry) 1.38

so a grand air trine between Hyperborea/Pluto/Calliope

i also have

Hyperborea conjunct Apophis(99942) 0.16

Apophis was an evil god in Egyptian mythology, the deification of darkness and chaos (ı͗zft in Egyptian), and thus opponent of light and Ma'at (order/truth), whose existence was believed from the 8th Dynasty (mentioned at Moalla) onwards. As the personification of all that was evil, Apep was seen as a giant snake/serpent, or occasionally as a dragon in later years. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apep

yikes!

Hyperborea conjunct Euterpe(muse of music) 1.59 degrees

Euterpe "rejoicing well" or "delight" from Ancient Greek εὖ (well) + τέρπειν terpein (to please)) was one of the Muses, the daughters of Mnemosyne, fathered by Zeus. Called the "Giver of delight", when later poets assigned roles to each of the Muses, she was the muse of music. In late Classical times she was named muse of lyric poetry[1] and depicted holding a flute. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euterpe

slightly better. lol =)

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posted July 19, 2012 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aeline, great work!!

Hyperborea conj Sun (2s)
and trine Chiron (1s), trine MC (3a)

T-Hyperborea conj natal sun (0a), conj Hyperborea (1s), quintile to Euterpe (0a)

Maybe in a past life I was a madrigal singer in England?

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posted July 20, 2012 07:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good analysis!

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posted July 25, 2012 04:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
One more proof to Hyperborea link to England. I am left with my eyes wide, wide, wide.

My friend once told me he had weird dreams of castles in England, in earlier centuries. Dreams of being there.

Ok. We actually have exact Sun/SN nodal cn. and other ones, so i thought - nice, then maybe we knew each other there, heh.

And now, based on what i presume with this asteroid, i checked its location in his chart.

Guess what? It's EXACTLY on his own South Node! Apart from that, he's got Mercury conjunct Regulus by 2 degrees, so here go his "somewhat castles".

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Aeline
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posted July 25, 2012 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, i'll just mumble here with myself to keep it down.

He also has
Sun conjunct Excalibur (1'30)
Moon conjunct Vivian (0)
Moon sextile Hyperborea (0)
Mercury conjunct Lancelot (0)
Mercury trine Guinevere (0)
Mars square Hyperborea (0)
Jupiter opposite Arthur (0)
Neptune opposite Sirius (0)
Pluto trine Sirius (0)
South Node conjunct Excalibur (1)

That makes

Hyperborea conjunct Excalibur (1)
Regulus conjunct Lancelot (1)


So basically, his past lifeline in Britain certainly was an important one, as it shows up in his natal so much.

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Aeline
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posted July 25, 2012 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And that makes his Hyperborea exactly conjunct our South node (which is 0d Libra for both, as it is Draconic).

Cool.

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posted July 25, 2012 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aeline     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
Aeline, great work!!

Hyperborea conj Sun (2s)
and trine Chiron (1s), trine MC (3a)

T-Hyperborea conj natal sun (0a), conj Hyperborea (1s), quintile to Euterpe (0a)

Maybe in a past life I was a madrigal singer in England?



Why a singer?


I would say you were a doctor or healer in England. As your Hyperborea conjuncts your Sun - that i suppose is an indicator of your past life there. And the trine to Chiron AND MC - your job, so to say... i would bet on you making money for living with healing people...

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posted July 26, 2012 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Aeline:

Why a singer?


I would say you were a doctor or healer in England. As your Hyperborea conjuncts your Sun - that i suppose is an indicator of your past life there. And the trine to Chiron AND MC - your job, so to say... i would bet on you making money for living with healing people...


(Aeline, Would you please elaborate just a little more on the last few sentences above? ... thanks!)

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