posted March 02, 2013 05:08 PM            

Brown Owl School has useful stuff on a number of topics (mostly contributed by Ami Ann) but asteroids generally are not listed. iQ, of course, is the asteroid Guru and his posts are like jewels scattered far and wide through LL. But there are others who've made great contributions too. Could a moderator please think how the info could be organised better? We need a Magpie swooping on the gems and stashing them under asteroid titles somewhere. Would it be possible for a moderator to volunteer?

posted March 04, 2013 04:14 AM            

I would be happy to help too. If I, or anyone for that matter, could post you any bits they found (as well as the link or author) and then you could choose from those.

As an example of how people could help, could you please see how I've started a Transits page in Brown Owl School. This is open to everyone to post and could be the first step towards collating material. This should not be open to comments which can be discussed elsewhere. Once material is collated, you could organise it as you see fit.

posted March 16, 2013 03:16 PM            

Thank you. I am hoping the powers that be will decide on including a reference page as that is what is needed. Threads, in contrast, are open to discussion and dissappear into archives, so won't do the job. There is already so much good stuff on asteroids in these threads which needs to be selected, preserved and made available for all. Cafeastrology, for example, has reference material on different planet aspects. We would be doing something similar, except the contents will be selected from previous threads (these admittedly will rely heavily on iQ's contributions).

Ail has kindly suggested that she will try and put asteroid aspects togerther. However, one could support her by researching threads and selecting useful bits for her to use. These could be posted temporarily on a Brown Owl School page. She could then use these and organise these in a convenient way on a reference page. Information on the reference page could be updated and/or amended periodically as more information comes to light. This is how I think it could be made to work, but a couple of moderators could put their heads together and work out the detail, or find an alternative way.

This initiative would recognise that LL is also a learning and research site and further encourage that aspect. I, for one, would find reference material very useful. It would save me, and others, an immense amount of time which is spent trawling through threads using the search engine.

posted March 16, 2013 03:29 PM            

I went thru Node/Tigerlily's link. I feel that Astrokeen you are looking more for a reference, beyond just what their numbers are and where the asteroid falls categorically or is listed as. More of what the asteroid itself means, and then what influences it has when it is aspected to a larger (likely planetary) influence?

I feel like Iq's work has more to do with proving that the the asteroid has an influence, through probability and then showing the connection. For example, the presidents and KAALI or psychic capacities with ATLANTIS. So that after we have shown their importance, then go ahead and suggest gently how the influence/aspect works? Is this correct?

I literally only came upon Iq's work in the last week - amazing stuff, but I feel like I am heavily reliant on him for answers. I always want to be able to fish not just be given a fish!

Thanks everyone. Again, looking forward to contributing.

posted March 16, 2013 03:46 PM            

Ail, would you be able to reorganise the info in this thread if need be? For example, if I started the first box on the meaning of Kaali, would you be able to add to that or reposition bits to make it better organised?

posted March 16, 2013 03:51 PM            

KAALI conjunct Ascendant can cause premature Kundalini Arousal. It can cause energy elaching by Astral Entities if the native is depressed or practices occult rituals without Auric/Psychic Protection. by Iq

Asteroid Kaali Conjunct Anything
By amiann | Published: February 3, 2012 |
The asteroid Kaali is our Kundalini energy. If Kaali touches an asteroid or a planet, it is as if we are wedded. I am thinking that Kaali is one of the most significant asteroids in the chart, if it conjuncts something. Think of your own energy. It is so close to you, closer than any part of you. It is your essence. I do Kundalini yoga. It is very powerful. It is said to be able to heal disease, as disease cannot live in the presence of oxygen. The Kundalini breath infuses one with oxygen. At any rate, one’s Kundalini energy is very influential and very primal. If it were to be linked to an asteroid such as Chiron, which is the wound which never heals, you can imagine the burden a person would carry. If it were conjunct Pluto, the person would be powerful. If conjunct Nessus, the person would want to abuse. He may not, actually, abuse, but it would be a very hard struggle. If it were conjunct Lilith, the persons raw sexuality would be worn more on the outside, than the inside. You can take any asteroid or planet and amp up the wattage of it 1000%. That is what the person with Kaali conjunct that planet or asteroid would feel, in my opinion.
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Asteroid Kaali Intensifies What it Touches
By amiann | Published: January 23, 2012 |
The Asteroid Kaali is one’s Kunadlini energy. Kundalini energy is one’s most basic, primal energy. Acupuncture works on this energy system. Surgery can be done with acupuncture needles as the ONLY anesthesia. This fact proves the existence of this energy system. One of my passions is to understand Astrology. As I do charts, I take note what certain asteroids do when they touch various places in the chart. Lately, I have seen Kaali touch new places, for me to see. I have seen Kaali touch Chiron. This aspect seems to imbue a deep body and soul sadness on the person. When Kaali touches Pluto, the person can be a powerful person, as his primal passions become very accessible to him. If Kaali touches Hekate, one will be forced to face one’s shadow side.

Kaali-Mercury in synastry would help communication of occult topics a lot more. Kaali-Jupiter could be a past life teacher-student of occult relationship and so on. But I have no practical verification.

Kaali conj Regulus puts the Kaali Effect into a Higher Frequency. Kaali rules knowledge of rebirth as well, especially if the past life death was a sacrifice. Regulus is considered to indicate Royalty, and you do recall your Ancient Egyptian Royal Bloodline.

Sun conjunct Kaali is a very powerful aspect. Many Royals have this aspect. This aspect allows the magnification of Ego using Kundalini Energy. When Kundalini goes off balance and becomes over-emotional, the person can lose his Auric Protection and become a victim of Astral Programming.
So many with "Monarch Slave" Programming have aspects like Ascendant, Moon or Sun conjunct Kaali. If they are weak, they become the best slaves for the strong occultists. I listed dozens of celebrities with such aspects, I think it is in the "Spider Line" Forum.
Even Draconic Kaali conjunct Sun has such powerful effects.
For those aware of past lifelines, Sun conjunct Kaali is a tactical reward aspect where you have done enough spiritual work to merit a strong and accessible Kundalini Energy, without need for advanced Yoga to activate Kundalini.

The secret of using Kundalini Energy is to NOT abuse it. One must ground onerself and allow the Energy to flow through the chakras safely without pressure. One must minimize celebrity errors of greed/egotism, and this in turn will prevent insanity, Astral programming and even the "sudden deaths from drug overdose".

With safe flowing of Kundalini, manifestation through LOA will be exponentially fast. One must use manifestation more and more for others, and thus escape any trap of karmic attachments.

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Asteroid Kaali in Monarchy :http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/004313.html

Kaali aspects to other asteroids
Nessus conjunct Kaali can indicate any of these:
1. Experience of abuse related to extracting psychic energy, abuse relating to power trips that occur because of imbalanced Kundalini.
2. Ritual sacrifice after assault, inspired from the demonic Astral level.
Something Ted Bundyish. This is the rarest of the rare case.
3. Teaching a person to not abuse personal power/Kundalini Shakti.
4. Using Kundalini Energy to heal abusive tendencies.
Usually, this aspect in a male'c chart indicates abuser and in a woman's chart indicates victim. Pluto, Mars and Saturn aspects are important as well when this Nessus-Kaali conjunction or even square is present.
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Kaali in Synastry

 "KAALI must be check with SIVA for synastry. In synastry it can indicate:
1. A Couple that can practice Tantra
2. A Couple that were tantrik lovers in a past life.
3. A Couple who were "sacrificed" unjustly in the past life and are meant to be together again.
4. A Couple who helped raise each other's Kundalini Energy with or without tantrik sex
5. A Couple who are already a couple in a 4th dimensional Astral Plane Dimension or whose parallel lives are linked to the Draco/Rigel/Orion Star System. " IQ

when his Nessus conjuncts your Ascendant. At some stage, he will get obsessive and when he cannot control you, he will begin some form of emotional abuse that will irritate you. There appear no telling signs of physical abuse, so nothing much to worry on that count. IQ

Kaali aspect Moon double whammy implies a direct and close past life connection, mostly as Mother-Child.

Kaali conjunct Venus Draconic Synastry
1. Passionate past life sexual affair in a Royal Environment.
2. Past life tantrik couple who enjoyed sexual intercourse more than the spiritual gains. IQ

 Kaali conjunct Uranus with someone in a synastry chart
Very likely that you both had a role in spontaneously/unexpectedly triggering Kundalini Energy in each other in a past lifeline. Likely to do that again in this incarnation. IQ.

posted March 16, 2013 09:06 PM            

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Originally posted by Astro keen:

Imeanj, look at this thread - there is a huge amount of info here which iQ posted a while ago in answer to questions for him.
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/001156.html

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I went thru all of the pages and DONE! Cut and pasted all those aspects onto that thread.

I'm wondering as we go thru more, besides the aspects, are we going to have houses? and then also the meaning of it in a certain sign?

Perhaps after we get this done, IQ can go through and add things properly and then we'll have a KAALI primer.

I'd love to do HEKATE and LUCIFER next.
http://darkstarastrology.com/asteroid-hekate/

[edit] I take it back, I want to do ATLANTIS.

posted March 16, 2013 11:18 PM            

Sure Imeanj. Do start another thread on any Asteroid you like. And yes it would be useful to cover as much as we can.

There is a problem with these threads in terms of re organising the material. I wonder if Ail as MOD can do that. I tried to cut and paste some of your MOON/KAALI aspects into the box entiltled KAALI and MOON but whilst I could copy and paste, I couldn't cut. So now we have duplication. A long winded way to resolve this would be for you to check all or for me to email you to delete any bits I've copied elsewhere. Could Ail advise please. Could you (Ail) do the sorting or can I have permission to do that as well?

posted March 17, 2013 03:49 AM            

I'm wondering if we should come up with basic formats, so we know what we are doing. i.e., asteroid, description of asteroid, description of planet conjunction, description for synastry, description for composite, description for house, description for planet? Just a general format suggestion. Can't wait for IQ to see this so he can add some feedback and make it more comprehensive! (Maybe - though he already does to much - can be the final edit, he has mod privileges, and then that way he can proof what we are doing - since it is his work after all?)

posted March 17, 2013 05:24 AM            

1) Background/meaning
2) Aspects with luminaries, then personal planets (these can be listed for each planet if enough material is available, as is the case with Kaali), followed by outer planets, then aspects with other asteroids.
3) synastry aspects and draconic aspects also would be best under each combination, e.g., Asteroid and Sun.
4) description of asteroids in houses / signs
5) Finally combinations of various things - e.g., Transits, 3 planets aspecting with same asteroid - these will result in some overlap, of course.

@ Ail, please move boxes for KAALI and Venus, Neptune, Uranus etc upwards, according to our formula.

posted March 17, 2013 08:31 AM            

@Ail - would you be able to change the title of the Kaali thread to -
KAALI - for reference only

This would make clear that this in not a conversation thread and also that this is the one to look up when searching for Kaali aspects. We could keep this title format for the others too.

posted March 17, 2013 01:33 PM            

A list with the most useful asteroids in Relationships analysis (especially useful in COMPOSITE charts, that is to say, the Charts of the relationship itself, as well as Synastry and Natal)

PS. The ones in pairs are examined in relation to each other.
Tight aspects of no more of 3 degrees orb when they aspect a personal planet.
The numbers in brackets are the number of the particular asteroid so you can add it when you create your charts (astro.com is a site that you can use all asteroids)

Juno - Ideal Wife, Commitment
Pallas - Pineal Gland Awareness, Telepathy
Ceres - Nurturing ability
Vesta - Dedication, Sacred sex
Chiron - Occult teaching, wounds to be healed
Karma - Karmic Debts from past lifeline (3811)
Destinn - Destiny, fate(6583)
Aphrodite - Beauty, attraction (1388)
Valentine - Loving relationship, sacrificial love (447)
Amor - Generic love, unconditional love (mostly platonic) (1221)
Anteros - Love answered/mutual love or love revenged (1943)
Medea - Extreme love, love/hate relationships (212)
Ophelia - Rejection of Lover (171)
Boda - Wedding (1487)
Lust - sexual Attraction (4386)
Kama - sexual Attraction (1387)

Pluto - Lord of Underworld
Proserpine - Soulmate Indicator when linked to Pluto, general prosperity and abundance. (26)
or: Persephone (399)

Eros - Passionate love of Divine Masculine (433)
Psyche - Divine Feminine aspect Giving herself fully to Eros (16)

Lancelot (2041)
Guinevere (2483)

Tristan (1966)
Isolda (211)

Osiris - Higher Level Divine Masculine, pointer to Ancient Egyptian Past Life (1923)
Isis - Higher Level Divine Feminine, pointer to Ancient Egyptian Past Life (42)

Ptah (5011)
Sekhmet (5381)

Siva - Divine Masculine Consciousness of Destruction and Regeneration. (1170)
Kaali - Dark Side Divine feminine, Astral forces, Kundalini capability (4227)

Lucifer (1930)
Hekate (100)