posted August 04, 2019 03:28 PM
Excavations in 1976 found pottery shard at Kuntillet `Ajrud with allusions to Yahweh and asherah.
Asherah is a name for the mother goddess and it is the name for the enclosure that held the sacred serpent. The sacred serpent had always been a feminine symbol until the Yahwistic editors of the torah turned the serpent into a masculine symbol . Asherah is also associated with sacred trees and groves.
How could Yahweh be a creator god when he was a consort to asherah, a mother goddess symbol.
Yahweh could not have spoken to moses on mt Sinai as the war with the kings of Israel and sumeria occurred around 1000bc. Yahweh was a cult god at that time as shown by his association with asherah.
in fact the people of Israel and sumeria and were followers of the goddess religions as late as king Hezekiah.
the yahwist war with the goddess religion resulted in a weakening of Israel to the degree that the Assyrians easily conquered and led the part of jewish people into the Babylonian exile.
asherah was also term for a "temple' that housed the sacred serpent, in addition to the goddess's name and the sacred tree and pillars associated with the goddess religion .the yahwist editors of the torah made the serpent a male so as to continue their degradation of the Hebrew goddess worship for purely political reasons and economic reasons
in addition merlin stone was of the opinion that the levites were indo European people that migrated into the levant. the levites were not an original tribe of the hebrews. there religious statue of the levites only began under king david when he gave made them bears of the sacred trumpets in the temple. to say moses and aaron were levites is a yahwist attempt to back date the history of the levites. if moses had been a levite, he would have never given the temple cultus into the hands of the house of zadok.
throughout the book of Samuel 2 it is stated that david made zadok the high priest and the levite priesthood followed.but again this is Yahwist propaganda as it was the house of zadok that ruled the temple cultus ,not an individual named zadok per se.
for that matter the levites never consolidated their religious power until the after Maccabean revolution circsa 150 b.c.
the torah was not written down until late exile time or when the return of from the Babylonian exile occurred.
so the written word recorded a history that was up 500 years in the past.
as such the real history was lost to yahwist censors.
one even knows the real name of king Solomon, as this epithet meaning wise was given to him in post exilic times .
asherah is mentioned in the bible. the philistines put king sauls head in their asherah and I believe saul had a asherah.
but the archeological remains indicating Yahweh was associated with asherah was not made know until the pottery was found.
there have been other important archeological disinformation in Israel .
the one that comes to mind is the renown yigael yadins assertion that he had found the pottery shards lots which the defenders of masada had used to determine the order in which the defenders would kill each others so as to not be captured by the romans. I read about this decades ago, but after yigeal's death, it turned out to be false. the afore mentioned shard were never excavated.
how Yahweh can be a creator god at the time of moses yet be the consort of asherah in the10th century bc is unexplained.
Yahweh as a creator god is a fiction of levite/yahwist/kaballist propaganda.
this is made obvious by part of the books of Samuel ,kings and chronicles
during the time of Elisha, there was a revolt by the king of moab named mesha .
The record in the book of kings has a few conflicting verses about this era, which would be in the reign of ahab ,king of Israel ,in samaria and the reign of Jehoshaphat ,king of Judah, in Jerusalem.
King ahab persecuted the cult of yahwe, the yahwists, and the yahwists continually tried to forment revolution against him.
As a consequence ahab killed all the members of the opposing yahwist ” 1 kings 18:3
Jehoshaphat on the other hand sent the levites to all city princes to give them the book of law of yahwe, and guide/rule them. 11chronicles 17:9
1kings 21:25 says that ahab “whom jezebel his wife stirred up”.
Jezebel brought the religion of the mother goddess. In the scripture called baal, the original form of this god was belial, a feminine god which was masculinized in the scriptures ,again to hide the goddess’s preeminence.
This time period is the beginning of the levite belief in one god. Still at this time all the ancient world was polytheistic . Yahweh had a consort, asherah in early centuries and throughout the early history the tribes of israel worshiped the indigenous mother goddess.
The levite rewriting of history of Judaism starts with he suppression of the mother goddess.
This censorship is very obvious in kings account of ahabs life.
1kings 22 ahab is wounded I battle and leaves the field of combat. He recovers and goes on to live for 3 years after jehosaphat dies. But the next line tells of ahab staying in the field of combat and dying.
The second version has ahab’s son ahaziah reigning next for 2 years and then his son jehoram reigning for 12 years and then jehu,a sonof jehosaphat, reigned.
But the first version has ahab living until after jehosaphat’s death.
Another problem is that jehoram was jehoshaphat’s son not ahabs son as written in 11chronicles 21:6.
So why is jehoram called ahab’s son. Commentators have also wondered why ahab who was against the yahwist would name a son jehoram(jahwe is exalted).
The second (accepted story of ahab) dying in battle fulfils a prophecy by Elisha that “.. dogs shall lick thy blood….dogs shall eat jezebel by the walls of jezreel.”
The second version is a obvious attempt to rewrite history and show elisha’s prophecy to be true and to erase the influence of the mother goddess under jezebel.
That the second version is a fraud is made clear by other sources from this time period.
The second version says that the king of moab, mesha, rebelled against Israel after ahabs death on the field of battle.
But a stella was found , written by mesha,king of moab. The revolt was initially successful and the stella was a written record of this rebellion and the reasons for.
Omri,ahabs father had oppressed the Moabites and moab was a vassal state to the king of smaria,omri.
Mesha writes that he rebelled when ahab had reigned half of his years.
So clearly the second version is a fraud as it says the revolt of mesha happen at the time of ahabs death.
A second source that shows the second version is incorrect is a from black obelisk of shalmanester 3,king of Assyria and Babylon .a inscription reads that in his the 6th year,he battled a coalition of Syrian and Palestinian princes at karkar. Ahab is mentioned as providing an army of 10,000 soldiers and 2,ooo chariots to the allied host against shalmanser.
In his 18th year shalmanser received “ a tribute from the men of tyre,sidon, and of jehu , of the house of omri. Omri was ahabs father. The 12years between these inscription does not leave room for jehoram to have reigned. Jehu was a son of Jehoshaphat who exterminate the line of ahab and ruled samaria(house of omri)
The second version in kings 22 says ahab son ahaziah ruled for 2 years, and then jehoram ruled for12 years and jehu ruled for a unspecified time.
But this adds up to more that the 12 years between ahab and jehu as noted in the annuals of shalmanser2. Some commentators have question whether jehoram ruled at all in samaria.
From ancient records of the same time, it is clear that the story of ahab has been fabricated/censored by the yahwists/levite/kabbalists .
for that matter the levites never consolidated their religious power until the after Maccabean revolution circsa 150 b.c. when the last high priest of the house of zadok, left Israel and established a temple in Alexandria because the high priesthood in Jerusalem had become a position that was bought and sold under herod antipas.
Excavations in 1976 found pottery shard at Kuntillet `Ajrud with allusions to Yahweh and asherah. Asherah is a name for the mother goddess
the evidence of yawheh and his consort asherah were found a bit after the 1960's in 1976(and notpublishedtil2006)and I am quite sure your rabbi did not assert yahweh had a consort at all.
I think you're also asking for trouble if you expect all the stories from a religion to be literally true
well I suggest you tell this to the likud party of netayahu as they belief so fervently in the literalness of the bible that the likud party shut down the Israeli government for several months in 1994 because simon peres said he did not like things that king david had done.
the NY Times article on december26, 1994 page 6 column relates that a no confidence vote was taken after foreign minister shimon peres, during parliamentary debate said he disapproved of some of the things King David had done, such as the conquest and occupation of neighboring lands and
“his selection of a married woman whose husband he sent to his death”. this refers to david sending bathsheba’s husband,uriah the Hittite to the front lines of battle where he was likely to be killed so david could marry Bathsheba.
The likud look for answers from kings dead 3000 years ago, to decide how to interact with modern reality.
King david was such a tyrant, god did not allow david to rebuild the temple
But in their world david is the model politically, for Israel in the 21 century.
And now netayahu intends to conquer the middle east under the likud kabbalic agencies.
He is the one most responsible for the rhetoric that lead to rabin’s assassination
the point being clear that ancient"myths " are driving contemporary political action in 2016
so you are factually incorrect to say the stories of the bible can't be taken literally. or you have some special faculty to pick and choose which stories are true and which are false.
I tend to reject the stories that Yahweh is a creator god, based on the archeological evidence uncovered in1976
I also think the late archeologist yageal yadin would have argued with you on your "assertion" that the bible can not be looked at literally.
What is the basis of your hatred here, Rahu? I'm curious
once again as you have for 10 years, you show you use of passivce aggressive techniques. now I am racsits
and as you are enoted for your new world Oder apologist stance, you dismiss anything that may prove you biased. as for netayahu.
he was the driving force behind the assasinarion of yitzak rabin because rabin had signed a peace accord..this is not my racism ,this is published opinions by jewish authors.
netayahu is a unrepentant liar. the latest example is his statement a few months back that a Palestinian leader gave hilter the idea to commit genocide on the jews, this was covered in the world press so don't kill the messanger(your words).netayahu later had to retract this racists comment.
a year ago Netanyahu published a map of his vision of the middle east in the world press. there was no Palestinian state at all.for nearly 100 years all debate about a jewish state included the presence of a Palestinian state, but Netanyahu threw years of negotiations out the window on his personal whim.
the there was the blanket destruction of parts of gaza 2 years ago that amounted to genocide, especially as an Israeli sniper boasted on this facebook page that he had targeted Palestinian children.(quickly removed )
I could go on and on but I am not going to was time time on you as you are not interested in facts that show you prejudices attitude.
what is your hatred of the Palestinians based on, i'd like to know
But if your primary motive in starting this thread was to promote anti-Zionism or anti- Israel sentiment, why were you not more direct about it
you cleverly try to represent Zionism as monolithic belief system whenin the fact is there are many different camps of Zionism. socialist, messianic, democractic, religious ,economist, yet you once again try to paint me as a racist when I am only aware of the historical make up of Zionism.
I reject the Yahwistic aggressive rascist zionism of netayahu and the likudnics .my preferences is for the scientific and democratic Zionism such as Immanuel velikovsky and other embraced.
My point (and I think Oddity's) is that there are other more metaphorical or political interpretations that make a lot more sense, at least for people without a personal stake in a highly politicized biblical archaeology.
if heinrich schliemann had this attitude, we would still not know that troy and the Iliad were historical places and events.
Even were Netanyahu a complete mad man, the Arab nations and UN would never stand for it.The notion that Benjamin Netanyahu is out to conquer the Near East is flabbergastingly untenable
get real waybread, Saudi Arabia is now fighting a proxy war for Israel, , correction Israel has put 40,000 troops in the syrian conflict to go along with the Saudis air and ground forces.
But if your primary motive in starting this thread was to promote anti-Zionism or anti- Israel sentiment, why were you not more direct about it?
again you are being disingenuous at best. it is just a coincidence that your first love the establishment media does not cover the dissension in Israel about Netanyahu's racists stand.
you have used these half truth discussion techniques for 10 years and still try to use them.
iam not against Zionism but I am against fascism like netrayahu's.
of course you haven't noted that netayahu passed a law that all jews have to believe as he believes, such as circumcision. now you must be circumcised in israel or be fined several 1000 dollars and also face imprisonment. what other country has passed genital mutilations laws and got away with it"?
talking to you is like taking to chameleon, you never acknowledge your faulty thinking but simply cover it up with more intellectual half truths.
and if you are painted into a corner ,you start hurtling personal insults such as "Rahu do you still have your pyramid hat on"
you are a waste of time, but weak minded individuals find you so articulate...
yes you and oddity and katydid are cut from the same cloth.
you can keep trolling me but don't expect any more responses. I don't have time for your Jupiter Neptune square.
The finds from Kuntillet ‘Ajrud were fantastic. The zingers were two large pithoi, or storage jars, that weighed about 30 pounds each. The now-reconstructed pithoi are painted with deities, humans, animals and symbols, and feature a number of inscriptions, including three that refer to Yahweh and his asherah or Asherah, depending on your interpretation. Asherah is a pagan goddess. Was she God’s wife?
Why has it taken nearly four decades to publish this final report? One reason is that everything about Kuntillet ‘Ajrud and its finds is so darn difficult to interpret—or even to see. The recently published report is a superb volume, and the discussion and interpretation will surely continue far beyond its pages"
So if Yahweh had a consort, asherah, and asherah is a word associated with the mother goddess cult, then how could Yahweh be the sole creator god that spoke to moses????
The yahwist occultist have been writing to glorify the selves .the archeological facts again show the yahwist to be fabricators of history, here they try to put the words of an 8th century bc cult god,yahweh, into the creator god.
The religious fiction is so boldly recorded that the obvious flaws shown by the archeological record can be missed.
In the desert moses picked up the brazen serpent and it was part of the temple cultus for 700 years. Moses got the serpent in the desert. There was a temple to the goddess and her serpent in the desert then. The serpent is associated with the goddess, so this implies the acceptance of a female divinity.
But when moses came down the mountain, the tribes had revered to te worship of baal the yahwist wil write. But ball is the male designated name of belial and other goddess names. The tribes didn’t suddenly change to the goddess, they were all along.
And then there is the question of mt Sinai. Why did god deal with moses from a mountsain sacred to nannar/sin?
Why is the sinai desert named after nanar/sin???
Why not to Yahweh the supposed creator god???
Nannar/sin’s city was harran. When the babylonia exile occurred only the cream of the judean crop when to Babylon , the rest of the dregs of Jerusalem were sent to harran, the tradition homerof Abraham and the jews.
Why did nannar/sin rule over harran? Where was Yahweh?
Harran is an interesting city.
One is that abram had an elder brother named harran ,deceased. But also because harran was an exact miniature of the city of UR in Sumerian. Harran even had a canal from the river pass through harran just as at Ur, with the city divided in exactly the same jurisdictions .
Sarai means princess in sumerian. Abram and sarai were of royal lineage from sumeria.
But where is yahweh?
during the time of Elisha, there was a revolt by the king of moab named mesha .
both the Egyptian and biblical accounts show a “great woman” in Palestine during the revolt of a “mesha.”
The record in the book of kings has a few conflicting verses about this era, which would be the reign of ahab ,king of Israel ,in samaria and the reign of Jehoshaphat ,king of Judah, in Jerusalem.
King ahab persecuted the cult of yahwe, the yahwists, and the yahwists continually tried to forment revolution against him.
As a consequence ahab killed all the members of the opposing yahwist ” 1 kings 18:3
Jehoshaphat on the other hand sent the levites to all city princes to give them the book of law of yahwe, and guide/rule them. 11chronicles 17:9
1kings 21:25 says that ahab “whom jezebel his wife stirred up”.
Jezebel brought the religion of the mother goddess. In the scripture called baal, the original form of this god was belial, a feminine god which was masculinized in the scriptures ,again to hide the goddess’s preeminence.
This time period is the beginning of the levite belief in one god. Still at this time all the ancient world was polytheistic . Yahweh had a consort, asherah in early centuries and throughout the early history the tribes of israel worshiped the indigenous mother goddess.
The levite rewriting of history of Judaism starts with he suppression of the mother goddess.
This censorship is very obvious in kings account of ahabs life.
1kings 22 ahab is wounded I battle and leaves the field of combat. He recovers and goes on to live for 3 years after jehosaphat dies. But the next line tells of ahab staying in the field of combat and dying.
The second version has ahab’s son ahaziah reigning next for 2 years and then his son jehoram reigning for 12 years and then jehu,a sonof jehosaphat, reigned.
But the first version has ahab living until after jehosaphat’s death.
Another problem is that jehoram was jehoshaphat’s son as written in 11chronicles 21:6.
So why is jehoram called ahab’s son. Commentators have also wondered why ahab who was against the yahwist would name a son jehoram(jahwe is exalted).
The second (accepted story of ahab) dying in battle fulfils a prophecy by Elisha that “.. dogs shall lick thy blood….dogs shall eat jezebel by the walls of jezreel.”
The second version is a obvious attempt to rewrite history and show elisha’s prophecy to be true and to erase the influence of the mother goddess under jezebel.
That the second version is a fraud is made clear by other sources from this time period.
The second version says that the king of moab, mesha, rebelled against Israel after ahabs death on the field of battle.
But a stella was found , written by mesha,king of moab. The revolt was initially successful and the stella was a written record of this rebellion and the reasons for.
Omri,ahabs father had oppressed the Moabites and moab was a vassal state to the king of smaria,omri.
Mesha writes that he rebelled when ahab had reigned half of his years.
So clearly the second version is a fraud as it says the revolt of mesha happen at the time of ahabs death.
Also the armarna tablets also record the revolt of mesha ,by name,in a letter from ahab to ankhetaton the pharaoh.
A second source that shows the second version is incorrect is a from the black oblesik of shalmanester 3,king of Assyria and Babylon .a inscription reads that in his the 6th year,he battled a coalition of Syrian and Palestinian princes at karkar. Ahab is mentioned as providing an army of 10,000 soldiers and 2,ooo chariots to the allied host against shalmanser.
In his 18th year shalmanser received “ a tribute from the men of tyre,sidon, and of jehu , of the house of omri. Omri was ahabs father. The 12years between these inscription does not leave room for jehoram to have reigned. Jehu was a son of Jehoshaphat who exterminate the line of ahab and ruled samaria(house of omri)
The second version in kings 22 says ahab son ahaziah ruled for 2 years, and then jehoram ruled for12 years and jehu ruled for a unspecified time.
But this adds up to more that the 12 years between ahab and jehu as noted in the annuals of shalmanser2. Some commentators have question whether jehoram ruled at all in samaria.
From ancient records of the same time, it is clear that the story of ahab has been censored by the yahwists/levites.
elohim translates to god in the plural and means both male and female. equating this word with judges or magistrates comes much later .
as Abraham and terah his father were Sumerian, the original meaning is of female and female dieties as was the case in ancient sumeria.
the point of this thread is to emphasizes the levite /Yahwist/cabbalists degradation of goddess and women in general.
the most obvious yahwist propaganda concerning David was appropriating the killing of goliath to david from Elhanan. later scribes inserted the word brother of goliath, to gloss over this contradiction
in a attempt to elevate Yahweh to a single creator god, yahwist propagandist or the guardians of dogma as dr Immanuel velikovsky (http://varchive.org/calls) them, the entire of history of the middle east has been turned on it's head.
dr velikovsky thoroughly explores is the synchronization of akkadian cuneiform tablets written in assyro-babylonian(akkadian) in the archives of tel el amarna in egypt under king amonhotep111 and amonhotep1V/ankhetaton with annual of shalmanserIII and the books of chronicles and kings in the torah and the mesha stella. The mesha stella was erected by the king of moab who rebelled against the kingdom of Israel in the time of the book of kings and the armana tablets where mesha is mentioned exactly.
The guardians of dogma place ankhetaton 600 years before the book of chronicles and kings.
The Amarna tablet are correspondence between the king of Egypt and the kings of samaria, king of judah and many other prince cities as these were all vassals of the king of Egypt in this period. But in 1500bc when ankhetaton was corresponding with these kingships…. The kingdoms did not exist. For that matter the Hebrew people did not exist let alone the kingdoms of Judah and Samaria, yet Hebrew idioms were used in the amarna tablets. Again all these correlations are verified in the amarna tablets
And once again the experts simply shut their eyes and record only what the guardians of dogma allow you to believe.
the purpose by the yahwist propaganist was to separate ankhetaten ,the first monotheist, from the time of king omnri and king Ahab and king Jehoshaphat because the want to institute Yahweh as the first and sole creator god.
to this day "establishment" archeology places ankhetaton in the 15th century and simply refused to integrate that the cuniform tablet archives of tel el amarna record Akhenaten corresponding with the kings of samaria and judah. they want the evidence to show Yahweh was the first monotheistic god.
one can not discredit cuniform tablets that mention jerulasalem ,samaria and Judah at least 5 hundred years before these cities existed. how can you discredit the use of Hebrew loan words 6-700 hundred years before Hebrew existed. how can you discredit the mention specically of the revolt of moab,mentioning the king mesha, 500 to 600 hundred years before these happened.the amarna tablet are written in akkadian which was the lingua franca of the late bronze age. this language is well researched and there can be no mistake as to what they concern. for that matter these archives also mentioned the jannu which was the word used for the early greeks. but in 1500bc the greeks did not exist.
the above are facts in written on cuneiform tablets.
one of dr. Immanuel Velikovsky's famous prediction was that venus was a comet. within the last decade it was found that the hydroxyl levels in venus atmosphere are the same as in comets and no other planet has these hydrozl concentration. then scientist also found that Venus has an ionized tail following it around in orbit.no planet has an ionized tail but all comets have ionized tails. nealyr every prediction he made in 1940 has been verifies since the age of exploration of the solar system.
velokivsky predicted a surface temperature of at least 600 degrees in 1940 and then lo and behold in the 60's it was found that venus had a surface temperature of 900 degrees.
the standard model explanation that this was caused by the hot house affect this supposition is not supported by any theory. no scientist has given any sort of an explanation of how the "hot house affect" works. but it is politically correct to throw this supposition out because currently the hot house affect is being used to explain heat rises on this planet.
for that matter velikovsky wrote in 1940 that neflimn could be interpreted as aliens coming to earth, but did not publish this because he said the culture was not prepared to accept these concepts. now Zechariah sitzkin et.al. are rich and famous for writing about the alien origin of civilization not to speak of the 100,000 thousands of ufo sighting in this century.