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MoonWitch
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posted February 28, 2014 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
January 1st, I went on a 3 day juice fast. Then for a month I ate a lot of veggies, beans, a little rice, fish and small amounts of chicken and red meat. I felt GREAT for the first time in a long time.

A couple weeks ago I fell off the wagon in a big way and spent two weeks eating bread, pizza, donuts... and some healthy stuff mixed in there.

I woke up last week feeling like I was hit by a truck. Every joint in my body hurt and I was back to having to hobble up and down the stairs at home. The extreme all-day fatigue was back.

So, I cut out gluten again. It's been 4 days and things are starting to get better. It's really amazing. I've promised myself no gluten until I visit New York for three days at the end of this month because - hey - I have to have pizza then. It's like, a law. But when I get back I'm back to no gluten. I'm really amazed at the difference in my body, joints and energy levels.

So.. time to do more gluten free baking Anyone have experience with that? I've made a few things like sweet potato muffins using almond flour that were amazing. I ordered some banana flour and I'm looking forward to experimenting with that!

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posted March 01, 2014 12:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When you wean yourself off gluten you will eventually be able to Introduce yourself to non gmo wheat without a problem.

Thank goodness you know your body well enough to locate and cut out intolerances.

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posted March 01, 2014 07:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Many many many people who feel badly have this allergy and don't know it. Glad you sleuthed it out!

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posted March 01, 2014 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've largely cut it out too... Along with a bunch of other stuff. You should get yourself tested though, by your reactions it sounds like you may be allergic, which can be dangerous. Some people are just intolerant, which doesn't show up in the tests. If you are intolerant there are pills you can take that will allow you to eat some. I usually use it when I'm eating out or am invited over for dinner as my intolerances are really complex and I don't want to inconvenience anyone if I don't have to.

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posted March 02, 2014 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yep, I meant intolerant.

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posted March 02, 2014 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How do you get non GMO wheat, PS?

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posted March 02, 2014 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you want to bake without gluten I would recommend carrot cake.

Just substitute the flour with a gluten free mix and add a little more moisture and a couple of more eggs than you usually would.

The eggs will help it rise. The added moisture is because gluten free flour is much heavier than normal flour. Added water/oil or carrots should do!

You can just use your normal recipe.

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posted March 02, 2014 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Ami Anne:
How do you get non GMO wheat, PS?


You can get it at a health food store. It is certified organic and non-GMO. I could only get the whole wheat organic pastry flour last time I was there, but I am keeping an eye out for the other flours.,

There is an organization that tests for GMO. non-GMO is not always organic, and non-GMO label can still have a percentage of GMO in it.
You have to look for both organic and non-GMO, with the label "GMO-tested."

There may be cross-pollination, so the only way to be sure is to get it with the label, "GMO-tested."

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posted March 02, 2014 10:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sibyl:
If you want to bake without gluten I would recommend carrot cake.

Just substitute the flour with a gluten free mix and add a little more moisture and a couple of more eggs than you usually would.

The eggs will help it rise. The added moisture is because gluten free flour is much heavier than normal flour. Added water/oil or carrots should do!

You can just use your normal recipe.


good suggestion

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posted March 03, 2014 06:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Peanut butter cookies work well with coconut flour. So does banana cake :-) I think scones should be fine too.

It's inconvenient to not be able to have gluten, but with a little bit of adjustment it works just fine. I can have it myself (I just have lots of other intolerances), but so many of my friends and family can't so whenever I cook or bake I always make sure there is a gluten-free alternative.

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posted March 03, 2014 07:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks PS! You are doing such a wonderful job as a Mod

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posted March 04, 2014 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Someone told me that all wheat was bad for the human body. I don't know. What do you all think?

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posted March 04, 2014 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^ I don't think it's bad per se... But I think intolerances occur because we get too much of something. It's the body's way of telling us it's full.

For example, studies show that as many as 40% of Americans are sensitive to fructosis now. This is because it has been used as an additive and sweetener for the past couple of decades in ALMOST EVERYTHING. People are also developing sensitivity to glutamic acid (additive in most fast food) and lactose.

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posted March 04, 2014 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dadoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have definitely become intolerant to low-quality wheat white flour. So far, organic stuff is still OK.

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posted March 04, 2014 05:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's the gluten that is most problematic, the protein in the wheat, that causes allergy.

But when we put any GMO food into our body, our system can't recognize the chemical make-up of these foods the way we were originally programmed to utilize them. If your body can't recognize it, it is considered foreign. That's what causes us to reject it, through allergy or sickness.

Why do some people have the sensitivity and others do not? Our own Genetic Code would determine this. Also, the frequency of ingestion may play a role. If this is the main proportion of your diet, as many families live on bread/snacks/pastries for sustenance, it would be more likely that our bodies would tell us to change our diet for nutritional sake. Anything consumed in excess is harmful, even water.

You can see it in the astrology chart.. the houses that represent health.If you have afflictions or planets/nodes there, you may have contracted or agreed to come here with a sensitivity.

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posted March 04, 2014 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSurvivor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking, gluten is like glue. It's the protein that is binding. It sticks like glue to your intestines and your body just doesn't recognize it.

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posted March 05, 2014 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sibyl - by allergic do you mean celiac disease? My cousin was diagnosed several years ago and she's been gluten free since. I wonder if it runs in families.

I've also been thinking about making carrot cake!! My son loves carrot cake so maybe he'll actually eat it - picky teenagers, you know. He does LOVE the sweet potato muffins I make. Those are just sweet potato, almond flour, crushed cranberries, flax meal, vanilla, eggs and a little baking powder.

I didn't have a lot of willpower on Monday and Tuesday and I ate gluten. Last night I felt HORRIBLE again. So... sucking it up today and doing a partial juice fast. It's a slow learning process but I'll get there.

Today will be:
Oatmeal for breakfast with some dried berries and nuts. Snack - coconut water. Lunch - steamed veggies and salmon. Snack - green juice. Dinner - green juice!

Last month I found a couple juicing days really helped me get back on track and made me feel better.

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posted March 05, 2014 12:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonWitch     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh yeah!

I'm pretty excited because this summer we are moving to Washington and buying a house with a little land. I can actually have a small garden and maybe a few chickens!! I'm going to stay home for a few years for my son to help him get through the rest of high school -- so I'll have more time to focus on food, cooking, baking. It'll really help with my learning process to have the extra time.

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posted March 05, 2014 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sibyl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MoonWitch,

Yes I mean celiac disease. I think you should get yourself tested. An intolerance won't show up in the test, but allergies will.

You will have to include gluten in your diet for two weeks before they can test you though. Usually the doctor will give you muscle relaxants for these two weeks so you won't get stomach cramps (at least not as bad).

If it is an intolerance or is IBS related it's not dangerous for you (just painful) but if it is actually an allergy (and these things are genetically pre-dispositioned, so they do run in families), you are actually harming your body by consuming gluten. If you are have celiac disease eating gluten degenerates the function of your intestines, and disrupts your body's ability to take up nutrition.

"To people with a chronic digestive disorder called celiac disease, gluten is truly evil: Their bodies regard even a tiny crumb of it as a malicious invader and mount an immune response, says Alessio Fasano, M.D., medical director of the University of Maryland Center for Celiac Research in Baltimore. Problem is, this immune reaction ends up damaging the small intestine, which causes both great gastrointestinal distress and nutritional deficiencies. If untreated, these responses can then lead to intestinal cancers as well as complications such as infertility and osteoporosis." http://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/gluten-free-diet#.

Now, I'm intolerant to gluten, but my pain is nowhere near what you describe. Which is why I think it is so important that you get yourself tested, because your reactions sound more akin to what one would experience with the allergy (celiac disease). Hope this helps!

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posted March 06, 2014 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Be well.

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