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Topic: Juno and Chiron in synastry
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twinflame1914 Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 17, 2014 11:47 AM
I have been learning more about Juno/Chiron in relationships and am feeling a little concerned.In my relationship: My Chiron opposes his moon opposes his venus opposes his jupiter conjuncts his saturn opposes his vesta conjuncts his juno my Juno conjuncts his mars conjuncts his uranus Opposes his ceres quincunxes his saturn quincunxes his juno His chiron opposes my jupiter opposes my saturn His Juno conjuncts my chiron quincunxes my juno squares his north and south nodes Are we doomed? Because from what I have been reading, things don't look too good....
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amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 3159 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 17, 2014 12:40 PM
If you both can handle the chiron energy this could be an unbreakable bond and the most spiritual and meaningful relationship of your life; you will both grow and evolve a lot and have a great spiritual connection and physical chemistry.IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 3159 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 17, 2014 12:49 PM
The Juno conjunct Chiron is great..The Chiron conjunct Saturn not good though but that is just one aspect and you have a chiron conjunct juno double whammy which is precious... Can you post the composite you have with him/her?? IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 41743 From: Saturn next to Charmainec Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 17, 2014 02:05 PM
Moving to Interpersonal Astrology.IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 2796 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 17, 2014 02:37 PM
My JUNO is exactly trine my Twin's CHIRON. Heh. I was thinking about that last night. Oh, well. More proof that astrology is potential -- not certainty. IP: Logged |
twinflame1914 Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 17, 2014 10:17 PM
I don't think we have a double whammy?My composite chart is http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t676/twinflame1914/astrocomposite_zpsb45711a9.png Synastry http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t676/twinflame1914/astro_61gw_01_02_t_m282112863_zps1b4f6a22.gif IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 3159 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 17, 2014 10:40 PM
quote: Originally posted by twinflame1914: I don't think we have a double whammy?My composite chart is http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t676/twinflame1914/astrocomposite_zpsb45711a9.png[/UR L] Synastry [URL=http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t676/twinflame1914/astro_61gw_01_02_t_m282112863_zps1b4f6a22.gif]http://i1319.photobucket.com/albums/t676/twinflame1914/astro_61gw_01_02_t_ m282112863_zps1b4f6a22.gif
Your Saturn/Jupiter conjuncts his DC His Uranus conjuncts your IC His jupiter conjunct moon in the 8th conjunct your 5th house His mars conjuncts your pluto and venus His venus conjuncts your mercury Your sun conjuncts his neptune Your neptune conjuncts his mercury His pluto squares your mars His mars sextiles your neptune Your pluto/venus sextile his mercury His northnode appears to square your Sun How big is the orb between sun and moon conjunction and sun and jupiter conjuction?? I like venus/mars contacts and this is missing but some nice asteroid contacts and vertex contacts can make up for that..that juno conjunct chiron creates a lot of chemistry physically and spiritually. You have a stellium in composite which is very nice but I am concerned that it mainly lands in the 6th house resulting in unequal give and take master/servant dynamic but I suppose it could manifest by the two of you been eager to serve each other or by you two working together....Did you meet at work? or work together in some way?
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twinflame1914 Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 17, 2014 10:54 PM
Thank you for your response I am not sure about the degree of orbs. We don't work together (work for same company but didn't meet at work) but serving each other makes sense. We have a lot of node contacts, mostly squares... IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 2796 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 18, 2014 12:59 AM
Hm. This isn't the Twin Flame which you're referencing in your username, right?IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 2796 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 18, 2014 01:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by twinflame1914: I don't think we have a double whammy?
You'd mentioned his JUNO is conjunct your CHIRON, and your JUNO conjunct your CHIRON. That's a double whammy. IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 1945 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 18, 2014 02:50 AM
Why is Juno conjunct Saturn not such a good thing as it features in stable marriages?IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 2796 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 18, 2014 04:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Why is Juno conjunct Saturn not such a good thing as it features in stable marriages?
Intriguing, AstroK. How tight of an orb? IP: Logged |
Astro keen Knowflake Posts: 1945 From: UK Registered: Nov 2012
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posted June 18, 2014 05:00 AM
I'm not sure of orbs. I found these quotes by iQ - now in the JUNO reference thread:"SATURN-JUNO trines or conjunctions seem just as powerful as JUPITER-JUNO aspects. In Draconic Synastry, SATURN and JUNO conjunct exact: absolutely proving a long lasting marriage in more than one past lifetime. In my research, a majority of couples with SATURN-JUNO positive aspects or conjunctions in synastry do have stable marriages." (iQ) EXAMPLES of Juno Conjunct Saturn in a long stable marriage: Celine Dion and René Angélil Hugh jackman and Deborra-Lee-Furness IP: Logged |
twinflame1914 Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 18, 2014 07:08 AM
No, I met him after I created my user name. From what I gather this is this is a significant relationship but I'm not sure how everything will play out...IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 3159 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 18, 2014 08:56 AM
My Husband's juno/jupiter/saturn all conjunct my Sun.My chiron trines his saturn by one orb and his sun by 6 orbs, also his chiron squares my venus by 6 orbs. I have been with him for 7 years, but I read that saturn/chiron aspects lead to heartbreak sooner or later but that three love linkages or cinderella aspects cancel out the heartbreak clash. IDK about magi astrology and how accurate their theories are..I am curious about them but am just observing at this point. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 3159 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 18, 2014 12:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Why is Juno conjunct Saturn not such a good thing as it features in stable marriages?
I read that CHIRON-SATURN aspects are heart break clashes in synastry and transits but that juno/chiron aspects are great for marriage according to magi society. quote: Originally posted by Astro keen: Why is Juno conjunct Saturn not such a good thing as it features in stable marriages?
I was not referring to juno conjunct saturn, I was referring to chiron conjunct saturn. Sorry about the confusion! IP: Logged |
twinflame1914 Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 18, 2014 02:00 PM
Sorry I had some aspects written wrong. Now it looks even worse IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 3159 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 18, 2014 09:25 PM
Don't panic..... How tight is the juno/chiron aspect?How tight is the saturn/chiron aspect? "Chiron plays the healing role only when it is tightly conjunct a natal planet in the other person’s horoscope, using an orb of around 1 degree or less. (Actually, I would bet on the very tight opposition also, but I don’t have the charts to back this assertion up.)" IP: Logged |
IndigoDirae Moderator Posts: 2796 From: Venice, California, US Registered: Jul 2011
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posted June 19, 2014 12:30 AM
Oh, THAT makes more sense. So, SATURN to CHIRON ... Well, we might have an opposition. His SATURN to my CHIRON, 6°29. Do we count CHIRON like the usual skyrocks and give him a 4° maximum orb? Or does his get widened? My SATURN, oddly enough, trines his CHIRON, 2°. IP: Logged |
jjj Knowflake Posts: 322 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted June 19, 2014 04:21 AM
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"Chiron plays the healing role only when it is tightly conjunct a natal planet in the other person’s horoscope, using an orb of around 1 degree or less. (Actually, I would bet on the very tight opposition also, but I don’t have the charts to back this assertion up.)"[/B]
Do tight parallels count? Our Venus-Chiron conjunction is 5 degrees, but the parallel Venus-Chiron is pretty tight. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 3159 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 19, 2014 01:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by IndigoDirae: Oh, THAT makes more sense. So, SATURN to CHIRON ... Well, we might have an opposition. His SATURN to my CHIRON, 6°29. Do we count CHIRON like the usual skyrocks and give him a 4° maximum orb? Or does his get widened? My SATURN, oddly enough, trines his CHIRON, 2°.
Read below for a different perspective: "Synastry aspects are really only of major importance if they are close, about 3 degrees or less from exact (5 if it involves Sun or Moon). Your Chiron is almost 7-1/2 degrees away from exact opposition to your partner's Saturn, which is too far to be of significance. Whoever termed this aspect the 'heartbreak aspect' really did not know what they were talking about. Both Saturn and Chiron are slow movers, important parts of the self, but neither is a planet of the heart, per se. If this aspect were close, it would definitely show that the two of you would learn major lessons from each other, but being an opposition, it is an aspect of perspective anyway....each of you grows through seeing things from the other's perspective. There would be times when the two of you would find many walls you might have put up for protection would fall down, and this could at times be scary, but it would only end up bringing you closer together each time. So not a heartbreak aspect at all. Moon square Saturn, however, can be problematic, but before I explore that, let me know what orb? If the square is less than 85 degrees, or more than 95, I wouldn't stress over it. If it is between 85-95 degrees, I will be happy to explore it with you. It is not necessarily a relationship breakup aspect, but does show that the two of you will need to work on the relationship to keep it alive." ***********************************************
I personally have juno conjunct chiron exact from draco to natal in synastry with my ex and the description of the aspect from magi astrology sounds RIGHT ON to me but we are no longer together so I checked the transits of the day I broke up with him and there was a heart break clash transit between his Natal Saturn and Transit Chiron...His natal saturn was squaring transit chiron by less than 3 degrees and transit saturn was conjuncting by sign my natal chiron. But if we were both more mature this could probably have been avoided so chiron is not a death sentence; it can be a dream and very spiritual with amazing attraction if both people are ready for it. IP: Logged |
amelia28 Knowflake Posts: 3159 From: AC conjunct Jupiter-Uranus Registered: Aug 2011
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posted June 19, 2014 01:58 PM
I met him under a cinderalla transit and we broke up under a heart break transit..When we met chiron was near the GC, his neptune and my neptune (cinderalla transit). Also T-chiron was conjunct my southnode and near his mars and chiron was trining almost exact my venus and mars (chiron/venus transits are also cinderalla transits). I felt the entire universe got together to make sure we met, perhaps that is the influence of chiron transiting the galactic center and both of our neptunes when we met and T-Chiron conjuncting my SN and his vertex. IP: Logged |
twinflame1914 Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 20, 2014 11:08 AM
Sorry I had some aspects written wrong. Now it looks even worse IP: Logged |
twinflame1914 Knowflake Posts: 119 From: Registered: Mar 2013
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posted June 20, 2014 11:10 AM
I am not sure how to check degrees? Is there a way to check anything from using the time we met?
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