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Topic: Can love overcome obstacles of astrology aspects? Or love itself is an astrology aspe
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stone1 Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted May 13, 2020 01:22 PM
We are very different, we only met 3 times and he doesn't live in my country, and age gap and the connection is so strong! but it seems astrology aspect is not good -especially pluto in scorpio opposite mars in composite and davison, and sun square Saturn in composite I am quite scared with the chart and I already sensed a lot of difference between us, such as ideology, religious belief, the world view, etc but I can't bear with not seeing him everyday What should I do? Is there any future at all between us? I can't sleep. I cry when I think about him, but can't see him because of the lockdown He likes me too, we are planning to live together somewhere 2 years later after I graduate from school thanks for your input! IP: Logged |
comdoc Knowflake Posts: 979 From: Tucson Registered: Feb 2015
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posted May 14, 2020 09:16 AM
Overall synastry potential is only 40%(4/10): that's negative synergy which tends to keep you apart. Composite potential is 53%(5.3/10) barely above average. Do whatever you need to release him and move on.IP: Logged |
Hikaru29 Knowflake Posts: 2613 From: Asia Registered: Nov 2018
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posted May 14, 2020 10:10 AM
Pls calm down. You've only met 3 times and you're crying and losing sleep? How much do you even know him? Are the birth times accurate? IP: Logged |
teasel Knowflake Posts: 14544 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted May 14, 2020 10:17 AM
Astrology aspects don't rule everything, but I would be concerned about anyone talking about living with me, when we've only met three times. IP: Logged |
Moonbeth Knowflake Posts: 649 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted May 14, 2020 10:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by teasel: Astrology aspects don't rule everything, but I would be concerned about anyone talking about living with me, when we've only met three times.
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vansio Knowflake Posts: 1111 From: on the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted May 14, 2020 11:01 AM
🚨 She’s clearly very young (2000–19.5 years old) whereas he is 1973 (47 years old) perhaps a covert predator. 🚨 Assuming they interact online and she is naturally barely conscious, immature, not excusing consequence, just pointing directly at lack of experience. Which stone1 will surely get from this one way or another. stone1: find a therapist to help you uncover/engage with deeper parental (father) issues. trouble will find you in romance if you don’t take this seriously. considering the way you react to a stranger, I highly recommend you find guidance stat. your sense of guileless ‘passion’ is a dangerous vulnerability. IP: Logged |
stone1 Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted May 14, 2020 11:17 AM
Thank you for your inputBirth time is accurate We have video chatted for more than 2 months now, everyday we saw each other. I can tell he is a very sincere person. Is there anything I can do to overcome astrology aspects? IP: Logged |
anonymidarkness Knowflake Posts: 7940 From: Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 14, 2020 11:19 AM
In my opinion, different people might prefer different kind of synastries.Not every relationship with age gap is related to parental issues, come on now, but yeah that age gap is bruhh, I tend to fall in love at first meeting but that gap would make me think for a long time, that said I figure you've gone past that point now In my experience, love is not an astrological aspect, but how a relationship might play out certainly could be. IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 1111 From: on the outskirts of Delphi Registered: Dec 2017
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posted May 14, 2020 12:14 PM
An age gap between a committed, mature couple is usually not about parental issue, rather partnership. Considering stone’s emotional reaction, it’s decent to assume there’s a psychological reason there. The very least a codependency one. 27 year difference, for a 19 year old. impressive IP: Logged |
stone1 Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted May 14, 2020 12:46 PM
Thank you so much for your words!I have been feeling very strange after I met him, can't help thinking about him all the time. He said I am the person that he had the strongest feeling last ten twenty years What do you think our relationship will play out? what special points should we be careful about? quote: Originally posted by anonymidarkness: In my opinion, different people might prefer different kind of synastries.Not every relationship with age gap is related to parental issues, come on now, but yeah that age gap is bruhh, I tend to fall in love at first meeting but that gap would make me think for a long time, that said I figure you've gone past that point now In my experience, love is not an astrological aspect, but how a relationship might play out certainly could be.
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stone1 Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted May 14, 2020 12:50 PM
At first I was very dependent on him, emotionally, lately he is very much the same, although I believe mine is a little strongerHe keeps encouraging me to become emotionally stronger, giving me a lot of advice, helping me transfer my pain of missing him (but can't see him due to the lockdown) to something else, like reading, watching film and youtube channels I am trying my best. But this man is the only thing I want. quote: Originally posted by vansio: An age gap between a committed, mature couple is usually not about parental issue, rather partnership. Considering stone’s emotional reaction, it’s decent to assume there’s a psychological reason there. The very least a codependency one. 27 year difference, for a 19 year old. impressive
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Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 430 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted May 14, 2020 02:50 PM
It’s not that rare for a young girl to be interested in older men. Some older men still look good, while more mature, and smart, and knowing how to treat women better than the same age guys. Also, sometimes it could be a safer choice than a young immature guy. But with Sun oppos. Saturn age issue would come out eventually. Anyway, it’s uncommon something to last long at 19. it’s always a risk to run into a Predator in online dating. His Nessus close to her MC, and his Dejanira/MC could be concerning. However, with Nessus on her Sun she might be able to stand up for herself. Stone1, your safety should be first, before your feelings. IP: Logged |
stone1 Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted May 14, 2020 05:10 PM
Thanks for your input Do you mean my Sun opposite his saturn in synastry? My sun also conjunct his saturn. And sun-saturn square in composite. Could you explain more why age issue will come out eventually? I have met his three times in person, I am well aware of everything and I am confident he is not predator. quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: It’s not that rare for a young girl to be interested in older men. Some older men still look good, while more mature, and smart, and knowing how to treat women better than the same age guys. Also, sometimes it could be a safer choice than a young immature guy. But with Sun oppos. Saturn age issue would come out eventually. Anyway, it’s uncommon something to last long at 19. it’s always a risk to run into a Predator in online dating. His Nessus close to her MC, and his Dejanira/MC could be concerning. However, with Nessus on her Sun she might be able to stand up for herself. Stone1, your safety should be first, before your feelings.
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LaceyLeigh Knowflake Posts: 1299 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted May 14, 2020 07:28 PM
Are you the Taurus or the Capricorn?IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 430 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted May 15, 2020 12:39 AM
quote: Originally posted by stone1: Thanks for your input Do you mean my Sun opposite his saturn in synastry? My sun also conjunct his saturn. And sun-saturn square in composite. Could you explain more why age issue will come out eventually? I have met his three times in person, I am well aware of everything and I am confident he is not predator.
Even some hard Saturn synastry aspects could keep people together if you can work it out. However, with other squares to your Sun, it makes it harder. And you have Sun sq. Saturn and in Davidson/Composite . It shows Saturnian issues most likely to come out. It’s not always about age, could be about responsibilities, maturity, criticism, but all these issues kinda involved people being at different levels/ stages in their life what is more likely with age difference. For your Capricorn Sun, it might be easier to make deal with Saturnian problems than some other signs. Hard aspects in synastry is easier to work through than in composite. So if you have a better composite, it could be helpful. So the last chart is composite or Davidson ? IP: Logged |
stone1 Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted May 15, 2020 04:00 AM
I am capricorn, inside one is mine quote: Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: Are you the Taurus or the Capricorn?
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stone1 Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted May 15, 2020 04:27 AM
thanks so much for your input! Yes the second chart is Davison, and the last one is composite I heard saturn problem will be less at an older age, so I hope his saturnian side will not be so bad now. He has given me a lot of attention, time and love nowadays, and trying very hard to make everything work And I do feel the strong need to see him multiple times per day and it is difficult for me to deal with the situation if I can't see him (via video call). I feel I am completely different person now quote: Originally posted by Librapurr: Even some hard Saturn synastry aspects could keep people together if you can work it out. However, with other squares to your Sun, it makes it harder. And you have Sun sq. Saturn and in Davidson/Composite . It shows Saturnian issues most likely to come out. It’s not always about age, could be about responsibilities, maturity, criticism, but all these issues kinda involved people being at different levels/ stages in their life what is more likely with age difference. For your Capricorn Sun, it might be easier to make deal with Saturnian problems than some other signs. Hard aspects in synastry is easier to work through than in composite. So if you have a better composite, it could be helpful. So the last chart is composite or Davidson ?
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stone1 Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted May 15, 2020 04:40 AM
By the way, I don't have saturn-sun bad aspect in davisonThe problems I see through these chart are 1. Sun square Saturn in composite 2. Mars square Venus in composite 3. my Sun conjunct Nessus in my natal chart, opposite his Saturn in synastry 4. My Sun opposite his Saturn, his Sun conjunct my Sun in synastry (as you said, this can be worked out somehow) I am a newbie in astrology quote: Originally posted by LaceyLeigh: Are you the Taurus or the Capricorn?
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stone1 Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted May 15, 2020 04:44 AM
Also, since our north nodes don't conjunct with each other's angles, does that mean we will not end up together?IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5045 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 15, 2020 10:26 AM
19 and 47? Forget about the synastry that age gap is too much. Astrology doesn't dictate whether or not two people will be together. I like older men but he's way too old.IP: Logged |
outofideas Knowflake Posts: 638 From: Registered: Jul 2014
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posted May 16, 2020 11:42 AM
I will second others in that the age gap is too large. Do you guys live in the same city or is this long-distance? Did you meet online?To answer your original question, it is more so astrology showing what your relationship will be like and love is unlikely to overcome difficult astrological aspects and patterns. It's also important to consider your definition of love. To comment on the charts I think it is good that you have a Sun-Saturn double whammy. If it was just his Saturn on your Sun that would have been worse. You also natally have a weak Sun-Saturn trine, not a square as someone has previously said. It's normal to have Sun-Saturn square in Composite, given your large age gap - this also shows physical distance creating issues and other circumstances creating blocks. With Moon conjunct the Ascendant and Venus-Juno also conjunct it in both midpoint charts it makes sense that you have a very emotional connection and a real desire for commitment. Mars square Venus is not that big of an issue, but it causes mundane annoyances and irritations over time. He has a Pluto-Moon conjunction close to your Ascendant - he is likely very intune with you. He also has his Sun and Mercury in your 8th house. That quickly creates a deep intimate and karmic bond. 8th house relationships are codependent in nature, also sexual. They can become difficult over time so it is good to watch out for emotional and financial codependency, the relationship becoming sex-only and overall toxicity. The Pluto-Mars opposition in both midpoint charts is not good as you have guessed, and it can show up in a living situation as getting in each others way, fights, arguments, could even get physical. The good thing is that your powers are equally matched so unlikely to lead to one-sided abuse. Not a nice aspect either way. There is also Jupiter squaring Neptune and Uranus so these aspects usually prevent a long lasting commitment. All in all I think this is more so an experience rather than becoming a life long commitment. IP: Logged |
Librapurr Knowflake Posts: 430 From: Registered: Jul 2019
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posted May 16, 2020 12:44 PM
quote: Originally posted by stone1: Also, since our north nodes don't conjunct with each other's angles, does that mean we will not end up together?
No, it’s not the issue . “I heard saturn problem will be less at an older age, so I hope his saturnian side will not be so bad now. He has given me a lot of attention, time and love nowadays, and trying very hard to make everything work” Saturnian problems - not only him, it might be you. Now, you like your roles, but eventually he might find you immature and not emotionally supportive ( Saturn opposite and squares and his moon square ) and/or you’ll find him too restrictive. Also, it could be arguing and problems with communication with Uranus squares in synastry and Mercury squares in Composite/ Synastry .(You put Composite- the middle one in the beginning) It doesn’t mean separation. People have different perception and expectations of relationships when they’re young and older. So make sure he is actually looking for relationships before you plan it. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5045 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 16, 2020 03:01 PM
quote: Originally posted by stone1: By the way, I don't have saturn-sun bad aspect in davisonThe problems I see through these chart are 1. Sun square Saturn in composite 2. Mars square Venus in composite 3. my Sun conjunct Nessus in my natal chart, opposite his Saturn in synastry 4. My Sun opposite his Saturn, his Sun conjunct my Sun in synastry (as you said, this can be worked out somehow) I am a newbie in astrology
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 5045 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted May 16, 2020 03:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by comdoc: Overall synastry potential is only 40%(4/10): that's negative synergy which tends to keep you apart. Composite potential is 53%(5.3/10) barely above average. Do whatever you need to release him and move on.
How do you the percentage? Do you use something to calculate this?
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stone1 Knowflake Posts: 26 From: Registered: May 2020
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posted May 17, 2020 02:09 AM
Thank you!!!Yes it is long distance and we met online. We did meet in person 3 times. It's sad to hear love is unlikely overcome these aspects. I thought the Vertex-venus (1 and 5 orb) and Moon-ascendent (4 and 5 orb) double whammy is sufficient. Could you explain more about the Jupiter squaring aspects in mid-point chart, in regards to long lasting relationship? quote: Originally posted by outofideas: I will second others in that the age gap is too large. Do you guys live in the same city or is this long-distance? Did you meet online?To answer your original question, it is more so astrology showing what your relationship will be like and love is unlikely to overcome difficult astrological aspects and patterns. It's also important to consider your definition of love. To comment on the charts I think it is good that you have a Sun-Saturn double whammy. If it was just his Saturn on your Sun that would have been worse. You also natally have a weak Sun-Saturn trine, not a square as someone has previously said. It's normal to have Sun-Saturn square in Composite, given your large age gap - this also shows physical distance creating issues and other circumstances creating blocks. With Moon conjunct the Ascendant and Venus-Juno also conjunct it in both midpoint charts it makes sense that you have a very emotional connection and a real desire for commitment. Mars square Venus is not that big of an issue, but it causes mundane annoyances and irritations over time. He has a Pluto-Moon conjunction close to your Ascendant - he is likely very intune with you. He also has his Sun and Mercury in your 8th house. That quickly creates a deep intimate and karmic bond. 8th house relationships are codependent in nature, also sexual. They can become difficult over time so it is good to watch out for emotional and financial codependency, the relationship becoming sex-only and overall toxicity. The Pluto-Mars opposition in both midpoint charts is not good as you have guessed, and it can show up in a living situation as getting in each others way, fights, arguments, could even get physical. The good thing is that your powers are equally matched so unlikely to lead to one-sided abuse. Not a nice aspect either way. There is also Jupiter squaring Neptune and Uranus so these aspects usually prevent a long lasting commitment. All in all I think this is more so an experience rather than becoming a life long commitment.
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