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Nine
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posted November 15, 2020 11:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which conjunction comes first?

I have Venus conjunct Mars, and recently met someone whose Sun is conjunct both planets.

Question: Which conjunction takes precedence? Sun conjunct Venus or Sun conjunct Mars?

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posted November 16, 2020 10:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could you post the Sign and Houses in both charts, and exact degree and minute of all 3 planets with all major aspects?

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posted November 17, 2020 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Person #1

Sun - 18° Taurus

Person #2

Venus - 27° Taurus
Mars - 18° Taurus

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posted November 17, 2020 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The one with Mars since it is at 0 degree. The one with Venus is already a wide degree conjunction.

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posted November 17, 2020 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
^^ Thank you.

So in this match I am seen as Mars primarily?

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posted November 17, 2020 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
No, they are both seen, but the aspect with mars is more powerful than the one with Venus.

I just realized that is the Sun conjunct Mars. Expect competitive behavior in the relationship. It's a good think that it's a conjunction with Venus too, but the Mars aspect will be felt more.

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posted November 17, 2020 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Chryssa.

Thus far our interaction has been energetic more than competitive.

By progression I've met a few Aries whose pSun have conjunct my nMars at 18° Taurus. With them the exchange were magnetic and arousing.

I've also met a few people where my pSun conjunct their nMars. Same thing, very sexually arousing. With me as Sun I found the Mars very aggressive.

With me as Mars I found the Sun person magnetizing - palpably pulling me in. I got the feeling they wanted me to make the moves.

With this current person, he has called my "very persistent". It is true, I want it. He initiated "alone time" first, but since it's been all me fighting and scheming to bring us closer...though I can feel him slipping away.

I created this thread to find out whether I should be more like Venus (let him come to me), or Mars (go after it)?

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posted November 18, 2020 04:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In my experience, the Mars-Sun conjunction is an aspect that points to competitive behaviour, even if it is in a work related environment or in a romantic relationship. At the first disagreement, you will feel the need to prove something or to go after him and for the Sun person it's going to be a frustrated situation. It might not be this obvious, but there will be subtle ways in which you and him will sense that you are against each other. I think the Mars person doesn't realize that is doing this and the Sun person will see the behaviour more clearly.

I experienced it both ways. Maybe the Sun-Venus conjunction is going to smooth things during those times.

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posted November 18, 2020 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You will not be able to choose between being Venus or Mars. In one way or another, you will feel the need to go after him or to do something to prove yourself. Especially, since the Mars-Sun conjunction is a 0 degree one. Maybe it will help you to know that you can have this behaviour and stay chill anytime you feel the need to do something.

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posted November 18, 2020 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted November 18, 2020 06:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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You will not be able to choose between being Venus or Mars. In one way or another, you will feel the need to go after him or to do something to prove yourself.

YES!!

We had a major falling out, with me (Mars) as the aggressor - he's slipping away and I don't know what to do. He said to leave him alone, and tried acting cold/rude. I ignored all that, and pushed through his defenses, insisting on conversation...until I got one-on-one time.

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Especially, since the Mars-Sun conjunction is a 0 degree one. Maybe it will help you to know that you can have this behaviour and stay chill anytime you feel the need to do something.

Too late. He made a threat, I dared him, he followed through.

If it helps any, we also have moon-moon conjunction in Sagittarius.

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posted November 19, 2020 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, it is a difficult aspect to have in any relationship. I don't know if you can solve it. Maybe you could search within yourself why you do this, what are the things he does that irritates you so much, and why they bother you. A little soul searching.

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posted November 21, 2020 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, Chryssa. You've been quite helpful.

^^

Well, the conjunction is in Taurus. Classically, I feel he's not moving fast enough for my liking.

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posted November 22, 2020 05:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome.

It is a good thing that it is in Taurus and not in Scorpio, for example. Then possessiveness and jealousy would have been an issue, I think. I had it with Gemini (being mars) and with Pisces (being Sun). Any sign it is, the issue is still the same.

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