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sometimesag
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posted May 18, 2021 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sometimesag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Does this composite show more potential for disillusionment and deception or for bonding and healing? Both?

Unrelated thoughts and observations very welcome!

Synastry: http://www.imgur.com/CyWe8iQ

Composite: http://www.imgur.com/fKxDIWF

Thanks all!

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sometimesag
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posted May 18, 2021 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sometimesag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@Stoika7 I'd love your thoughts! Context: Romantic relationship for ~6 months. I'm the inner circle!

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posted May 19, 2021 07:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi sometimesag,
this Composite chart is super-otherworldly... Vertex is square to MC and opposite to the Eros/Psyche midpoint... and the Juno/Jupiter midpoint is square the Nodes. This looks like a soulmate relationship, it's very fated, and with Moon/Saturn/Jupiter sextile at same degree, Moon/Saturn midpoint is conjunct Vertex... there's strong potential for long term committment. It's weird because there's also a strong unattainable vibe with the 12th house planets and Chiron square to Neptune/Eros. I think that your strong otherworldly connection may overlook issues. Chiron square Neptune/Eros may be tricky as if you think you can read each other's mind and take this for granted while there may be a lot of unresolved and unsaid stuff... I am not sure it's plain deception, it's the situation that can be deceptive somehow... maybe you have higher expectations while in reality things are more complicated? The Jupiter/Pluto midpoint is square to Saturn... are there future plans in your individual work or career that don't match? or different expectations for the future?

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sometimesag
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posted May 19, 2021 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sometimesag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is great - thank you so much! There are definitely some question marks regarding the future since we met during the pandemic (and are both going through difficult and transformative times in our lives independently). We both have relatively similar aspirations for the future (having careers that require lots of travel - Jupiter on IC), but are still very uncertain where exactly they'll take us individually (Uranus on IC). We've mostly just been enjoying one another's company as opposed to planning for the future, which may be where the Neptunian fogginess is coming from? We've also experienced a few uncanny psychic coincidences that freaked us both out. What do you think of the NN being trine to Neptune? How would you read that in the context of all the Neptune squares? It threw me off. Thank you sm again!
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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi sometimesag,
this Composite chart is super-otherworldly... Vertex is square to MC and opposite to the Eros/Psyche midpoint... and the Juno/Jupiter midpoint is square the Nodes. This looks like a soulmate relationship, it's very fated, and with Moon/Saturn/Jupiter sextile at same degree, Moon/Saturn midpoint is conjunct Vertex... there's strong potential for long term committment. It's weird because there's also a strong unattainable vibe with the 12th house planets and Chiron square to Neptune/Eros. I think that your strong otherworldly connection may overlook issues. Chiron square Neptune/Eros may be tricky as if you think you can read each other's mind and take this for granted while there may be a lot of unresolved and unsaid stuff... I am not sure it's plain deception, it's the situation that can be deceptive somehow... maybe you have higher expectations while in reality things are more complicated? The Jupiter/Pluto midpoint is square to Saturn... are there future plans in your individual work or career that don't match? or different expectations for the future?

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sometimesag
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posted May 19, 2021 01:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sometimesag     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
More context: We met right as transit Neptune was nearing exact on my Pisces DSC and transit NN was nearing exact on her Gemini DSC. Would you read this as meaningful, yet fleeting?

We also always tease one another about our composite like "Hahaha are we delusional? Ew." (Both have Venus-Neptune natally, but are very wary and critical of Neptunian relationships). Maybe Composite Mercury conjunct Venus influence?

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Stoika7
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posted May 19, 2021 03:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The psychic coincidences and synchronicities are there because those aspects I mentioned involving North Node and Vertex are, as I said, super-otherworldly. There's a soul connection for sure.
I think the context you explain fits well the chart and the question marks for the future. But I think that the otherworldly nature of the connection may leave something unresolved, don't know what it is, but circumstances may come which don't allow the powerful intimate connection to completely manifest as you would expect.
NN trine to Neptune/Eros empowers the fairy tale element. It's very romantic and dreaming, as well as the neptune transits you experienced at the meeting...

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Stoika7
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posted May 19, 2021 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
PS: transiting North Node is conjunct Moon triggering the exact Trine with Saturn and Jupiter... since transiting Saturn is conjunct Composite Jupiter this would be a perfect time for a wedding, lol

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