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Topic: Saturn in hard aspect to Venus in synastry experiences
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Astrohippiegirl Knowflake Posts: 111 From: atlanta, ga, usa Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 21, 2019 02:41 PM
Hey guys,I have been searching through all of the synastry charts I have had with men in my life including my biological father whom I don’t have a relationship with. I have noticed that many of those relationships have hard aspects between Saturn and Venus. - My father Venus is square my Saturn - 2 of my longest relationships were Saturn Conjunct my Venus in Leo - my daughters father has his Saturn square my Venus - 1 guy I dated his Saturn square my Venus - another guy my Saturn square his Venus - current relationship My Saturn opposite his Venus and it sucks A theme I notice whenever my Saturn is square someone’s Venus, they withhold love from me or they push me away Whenever my Venus is square their Saturn I feel like they are pressuring me or that I can’t please them enough Whenever my Saturn opposes their Venus something keeps us apart or there’s a push and pull meaning the more love and affection I show the more they pull away, then I pull away and they show more affection and love. I would absolutely love to hear any experiences anyone has had with these aspects and which planet you were in that aspect
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Nine Moderator Posts: 3794 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 21, 2019 03:30 PM
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- 2 of my longest relationships were Saturn Conjunct my Venus in Leo
Talk some more about these relationships? How did they begin? How did they end? What was it like in the middle? IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3794 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 21, 2019 03:53 PM
I have the conjunction with someone currently in my life. It is not fun. I've tried several times to cut them off, but he's clingy (Cancer Asc, Scorpio moon) and wont budge. I am not happy with this person in my heart, in my life. I've made up my mind, he has to go.Don't know what he feels, but he blocks me whenever a guy tries to talk to me. At the same time wont make any moves of his own. It's frustrating. All my Venusian overtures towards him are rebuffed. Add to this he's sneaky, lazy, unambitious, and a terrible communicator. Passive-aggressive, and fake people are looked down on on this board. However, the direct approach has not worked for me. I feel I will have to resort to those tactics to get him out of my life. IP: Logged |
Astrohippiegirl Knowflake Posts: 111 From: atlanta, ga, usa Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 21, 2019 04:27 PM
The Saturn Conjunct Venus relationships were a little different from each other it’s funny they were both cancer rising like myself. The 1st guy I adored him I thought he was gorgeous and he always made an effort more than any guy I had ever dated, he would buy me gifts and surprise me and push me when it came to my school work while I was in college, unfortunately he was married so yea that didn’t work out...I was young dumb and I’m loveThe second guy was my last LTR he was also very supportive while I was in school and he was always there for me even if I was cold towards him, which was often...I just felt like he was always watching me and I couldn’t just be myself and relax I didn’t like that feeling IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3794 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 21, 2019 06:24 PM
What were you in each relationship? Venus or Saturn. I am Venus, he is Saturn.
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The 1st guy I adored him I thought he was gorgeous and he always made an effort more than any guy I had ever dated, he would buy me gifts and surprise me and push me when it came to my school work while I was in college, unfortunately he was married so yea that didn’t work out...I was young dumb and I’m love
We actually met in class too. He got my attention by invading my dreams. I was crushing one someone else, that someone made a promise...in the dream. In the waking like, this person whose Saturn conjunct my Venus sorta did what the guy in my dream promised. That confused me and got my attention. I am the Venus. I was the one who helped him with is school work and pushed him to keep up with assignments. Insisting on this and that. I don't believe I was ever attracted to him. I had and still have intense feelings for another classmate, [Saturn] sorta injected himself in the middle. He was shy, so I went over and made friends with him. Before I knew it he started acting weird whenever I flirted with the other guy. quote:
The second guy was my last LTR he was also very supportive while I was in school and he was always there for me even if I was cold towards him, which was often...I just felt like he was always watching me and I couldn’t just be myself and relax I didn’t like that feeling
Same here with the watching bit. He always left class early but I get the feeling he was outside watching from a distance. It makes me feel uncomfortable. He is very cold to me...until I get angry and make demands. It's weird, he stirs me emotionally and I do get jealous pangs. However, there is no great passion. If I never see him again I won't suffer an existential crisis. IP: Logged |
Caprika Knowflake Posts: 1568 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 21, 2019 09:51 PM
I have my Venus in conjunction with his Saturn, I try to please him all the time and its never enough. he is very demanding, wants a lot from me but doesn't give much in return because he thinks I will leave him. He is also jealous. I wonder how Saturn person really feels towards their Venus, I am tired of having just the crumbs yet he is always by my sideIP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3794 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 21, 2019 11:04 PM
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I have my Venus in conjunction with his Saturn, I try to please him all the time and its never enough. he is very demanding, wants a lot from me but doesn't give much in return because he thinks I will leave him. He is also jealous. I wonder how Saturn person really feels towards their Venus, I am tired of having just the crumbs yet he is always by my side
I'm also Venus in the conjunction. On a normal day he does nothing, I am the one who seeks his attention. Looking in his direction, starting conversations, proofing his work - demanding he change incorrect answers before turning papers in. If he's too slow, I change it myself. If I don't make a fuss, or look in his direction one day, he seeks me out then moves to be next to me. I used to be flattered, but now I'm exhausted. One of his other crushes can have him. The last straw was me asking to spend time together, then getting a text days later. His was of apologizing was to give me the opportunity to do him a favor he'd previously said no to. IP: Logged |
Caprika Knowflake Posts: 1568 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 22, 2019 12:43 AM
the nerve of these Saturn people!IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3794 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 22, 2019 11:55 AM
Although I'm Venus and he is Saturn, I'm actually the older one. As a consequence I remember where I was, who I met and what that relationship was like around the time he was born.My dad remarried when tSaturn was conjunct my nVenus. Every one hated the lady, I felt sad for her so decided to befriend her and help with chores... BIG mistake. Once comfortable she became increasingly demanding. She was high maintenance, exhausting. Took me six years to rid myself of her. It is one of the periods in my life I look back on with regret. If only I'd moved out, if only I behaved like my siblings... If only. She is the first person I think of when I think of Aquarius, and the subject of living with them is brought up. True to form, once I decided to move on she was bitter and vindictive. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3794 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 22, 2019 12:01 PM
^^Surprise: her Saturn was square my Venus.Venus in Taurus, Saturn in Aquarius. 3° orb. IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 284 From: Registered: Dec 2017
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posted July 22, 2019 05:44 PM
Thinking about these two planets if in double whammy synastry; in my last LTR, my Saturn trines his Venus and his Saturn squares my Venus. I did feel like I was doing too much which was exhausting me, sometimes I wanted a break from the relationship because of this taxing feeling... Was lover, best friend, doctor, manager, etc -full package energy. Not sure how he felt but on his way out he told me he's leaving because "he had loved me more". His Pluto quincunx my Venus, maybe thats just Pluto talking - I had no Pluto aspects to his planets (which I cherished actually... I think Pluto aspects thrive on control/ego more than Saturn.) I guess the weirder part of this square interaspect, is my Venus is conjunct his DC, so even though there's a square between my Venus and his Saturn, I still am the 7th house. We have a lot more Saturn going on than just Saturn-Venus though. His Saturn on my DSC. Our Saturns conjunct each others NN. So... its hard to localize the Venus bit, but I resonate with what OP and Caprika described. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 4515 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 22, 2019 06:45 PM
Is Venus square Saturn Karmic?IP: Logged |
vansio Knowflake Posts: 284 From: Registered: Dec 2017
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posted July 22, 2019 06:47 PM
Anything involving Saturn has the essence of karma involved because Saturn represents will-wont/can-cannot do with consequence or results in mind as its qualifier. So with the square aspects, its as if the Venus persons way of showing affection brings up issues about Saturns own authority in the matter, capabilities or limits (reactions) that Saturn doesn't know how to integrate (yet, unless a natal square to the same zodiac point), which could in turn be projected back to the Venus person energetically, who then has to put more effort in to meet the standards promoted in compensation for something out of its territory. Saturn is critical.To answer your question, anything involving Saturn, is "karmic" for the Saturn person when activated. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 4515 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 22, 2019 07:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by vansio: Anything involving Saturn has the essence of karma involved because Saturn represents will-wont/can-cannot do with consequence or results in mind as its qualifier. So with the square aspects, its as if the Venus persons way of showing affection brings up issues about Saturns own authority in the matter, capabilities or limits (reactions) that Saturn doesn't know how to integrate (yet, unless a natal square to the same zodiac point), which could in turn be projected back to the Venus person energetically, who then has to put more effort in to meet the standards promoted in compensation for something out of its territory. Saturn is critical.To answer your question, anything involving Saturn, is "karmic" for the Saturn person when activated.
Thanks is there anything positive about Venus square Saturn?
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Nine Moderator Posts: 3794 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 22, 2019 07:55 PM
Wow!!Just did a quick scan and found four people who have made every tense a aspect to my Venus... Conjunction, opposition, and Squares. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3794 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 22, 2019 10:46 PM
Venus in Taurus, dealing with Saturn in ... Aquarius (square): Step mother. I met her during tSaturn conjunct nVenus. This was generally a pretty rejecting period in my life. Oddly, I met quite a few Aquarians during this time. I will forever, fair or not, associate that transit and those feelings with the sign Aquarius. Scorpio (opposition): Another Aquarius. This one wanted romance. There was zero attraction from my end. Already scared from the square, there was zero chance I'd let an Aqua in my heart. I felt terrible so I tried to compensate with gifts and such. Then there was a birthday cake. I took a slice, after I'd finished eating it I was informed that everyone had chipped in buy that cake, and I owed five dollars for my slice. This news for delivered by her Cappy bestie. Right then whatever guilt I felt evaporated. The year before I spent $45 of my own money on a gift for that very Aqua. Gotta love Saturn or Aquas. A Virgo. He was cute, he was intelligent, he was sexy. He was my type. I flirted with him, and he responded positively. I was afraid of him. Don't know what it was, but I sensed an anger, and seriousness about him. In the back of my mind was fear. Fear that getting involved with him may make demands I wasn't ready to face. Eventually life took him away from me, but I learned he still kept my number five years on. I used to text him, sometimes he'd answer, other times he didn't. Leo (square) Libra: He was cute, and charming, and popular. Archetypal Libra. I thought he was just being friendly, no, he was flirting with me. I didn't trust his interest. Even before I learned #7 was the number of deceit, and he had lots of sevens in his chart, there was a vague air of deception about him. Nonetheless, I liked when he paid attention to me. I dunno. When he found out I was leaving his orbit he went quiet. I think he was hurt because I didn't tell personally, and he had to hear it through the grape vine. So I said; it's true, I am leaving. Then he asked me on a date... As the end drew closer he confronted me. "If you knew you didn't want to hang out with me, why did you agree to it?" Then he said something mean. While it's true the original reason for distrusting him was gone, there was a new one. I dunno. I didn't trust him. Taurus (conjunction) Gemini: This story is still developing, but he's been pretty cold to me thus far. IP: Logged |
Astrohippiegirl Knowflake Posts: 111 From: atlanta, ga, usa Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 23, 2019 02:51 AM
Wow loving the responses! I guess everyone’s experience is different but in the end the same result, has anyone had Saturn opposite Venus in synastry? If so, did it work out?IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 4515 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 23, 2019 06:51 AM
quote: Originally posted by Astrohippiegirl: Wow loving the responses! I guess everyone’s experience is different but in the end the same result, has anyone had Saturn opposite Venus in synastry? If so, did it work out?
Everyone is different so it can’t be the same result. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3794 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 23, 2019 11:53 AM
Seems Venus pursues Saturn,showers him with affection. Saturn loves it, but gives nothing in return, except try to enslave Venus. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 4515 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 23, 2019 11:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Nine: Seems Venus pursues Saturn,showers him with affection. Saturn loves it, but gives nothing in return, except try to enslave Venus.
What exactly do you mean by enslave? IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3794 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 23, 2019 02:36 PM
To keep as his slave.He takes without giving, but forbids/prevents Venus from leaving. Yet gives nothing in return. This is hard on Venus as she gives with the hope of getting in return. IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3794 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 23, 2019 11:44 PM
Perhaps I should do a post with me as Saturn.Right off the bat I found a colleague whose Venus is exactly opposite my Saturn at 7°. Issue isn't joined between us, but in the beginning I used to had him help me with stuff. He tried saying no, but I insist. I'll have to check myself. I'll watch this one. IP: Logged |
Caprika Knowflake Posts: 1568 From: Registered: Dec 2013
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posted July 24, 2019 12:30 AM
Here is a fantastic article on the subject:What Saturn wants is Venus. http://sasstrology.com/2010/08/rethinking-venussaturn-in-synastry.html IP: Logged |
Nine Moderator Posts: 3794 From: The Cusp of Love Registered: May 2009
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posted July 24, 2019 04:50 AM
In my experience Saturn /Venus has been very one-sided. Venus give, Saturn takes. Aside from staying put to receive Saturn does little else... This with the hard aspects. I once likened Saturn - Venus to Edward Scissor Hand. That was incorrect. These planets in harsh aspect is more like Liz Taylor & Paul Newman in CAT ON A HOT TIN ROOF. Venus pours herself out to him only to get a taste of something at the very end, rinse and repeat.
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 4515 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted July 24, 2019 08:36 AM
Well, I guess there isn't anything positive about the harsh aspects.IP: Logged |