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Skye99
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posted April 08, 2020 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skye99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hello,

i met a taurus sun/gem moon about 4 months ago. i’m a cancer sun/cancer moon. i was trying to get over another man and wanted to heal but was very attracted to this taurus man i got involved with. things were very good at the beginning until i discovered he was not completely over his ex, possibly using me as a distraction. recently he’s been pulling away and it seems like they may get back together. they have a trauma bond, history of physical/verbal abuse towards each other and i don’t think it will last again. i did suggest he get back with her because i wanted him to see for himself that it wouldn’t work.

things were very healthy, happy in the first three months and changed towards an angry/sad emotional state once his ex came back a month ago. the energy between us got really messed up.

i’m letting him go for now, but i’m very sad about it. any thoughts on our composite/synastry? i am the outer circle in the synastry

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posted April 09, 2020 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skye99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
bump ! any thoughts

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posted April 10, 2020 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saturn in 7th house could be glue, keep you together. However, for his Aquarius AC and Gemini moon, it could be too serious tone of the relationship. Sun opp. Neptune - some delusions and disappointments about each other personality. Possibly, you cannot see who he is. And Pluto/ Neptune- power struggles.
Unfinished business with ex - a difficult situation. Take care.

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posted April 10, 2020 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skye99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Librapurr:
Saturn in 7th house could be glue, keep you together. However, for his Aquarius AC and Gemini moon, it could be too serious tone of the relationship. Sun opp. Neptune - some delusions and disappointments about each other personality. Possibly, you cannot see who he is. And Pluto/ Neptune- power struggles.
Unfinished business with ex - a difficult situation. Take care.

yeah i can sense the power struggles. and he lied about things to keep the “peace”’between us and it was frustrating because i just wanted him to be honest so we could still have a friendship.

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posted April 16, 2020 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skye99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
any other thoughts? it seems they’ve had some sort of falling out again but i’m not going to throw myself at him. i do miss him a lot though

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posted April 21, 2020 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skye99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted April 23, 2020 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the synastry chart doesn't show the aspects it makes with the asteroids, but I see you have your own Chiron/juno opposing his Juno and his Chiron widely conjuncts your South Node .

Chiron conjunct south node can be an indicator that chiron in a recent past life has hurt the south node person and this time around, they try to heal that.

Another interpretation:
"The South Node deals with unfinished business, blockages, and challenges not met—either earlier in this life or in a former lifetime. These synastry aspects can be painful, you may not be able to understand the attraction, yet the other person is important for your soul growth, and touches you to the very depths of your heart and soul."

His own Chiron is opposite his Saturn. Chiron opposite Saturn is usually quite typical of a very wounding relationship to the father and/or to authority figures in general and can result in feelings of inadequacy and fear of rejection.

Also, with your Pluto conjunct his NorthNode, I think you may have a powerful, transformational and healing (chiron/SN) effect on his life, since it sounds like you're the more emotionally healthy one..

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posted April 24, 2020 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello Skye,

Would you still like some feedback?

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posted April 24, 2020 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skye99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by girlwiththerainysoul:
Hello Skye,

Would you still like some feedback?


yes please !!

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posted April 24, 2020 11:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have rarely said this about the charts posted on Lindaland's interpersonal section, but I think yours is a marriage chart. Very good aspects/compatibility for the long run.

I think you did a mature thing, giving him space and not contacting him after the breakup, although the suggestion of him going back to the ex, hmmm, maybe he felt like you were pushing him away and hiself never wanted to be back with her in the first place.

Perhaps you wanted to save yourself a possible heartbreak if he were really to get back with her; and maybe this is a lesson for you to instead be honest with him about how you feel.

I suggest that if after a couple of weeks he still hasn't contacted and you are sure you want something meaningful and serious with him, you text him and tell him you're sorry for pushing him away and never meant it, and instead wanted to save yourself from being hurt. If he didn't respond within a couple of days, that's your cue to realize that you deserve better and are now ready to move on with the lessons you learned from this relationship.

Skye, you know better than me how much of what I said really fits your situation, and please note that I have used "maybe" and "perhaps" in my paragraphs. So, take what fits your situation and leave the rest.

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posted April 24, 2020 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skye99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by astri:
I think the synastry chart doesn't show the aspects it makes with the asteroids, but I see you have your own Chiron/juno opposing his Juno and his Chiron widely conjuncts your South Node .

Chiron conjunct south node can be an indicator that chiron in a recent past life has hurt the south node person and this time around, they try to heal that.

Another interpretation:
"The South Node deals with unfinished business, blockages, and challenges not met—either earlier in this life or in a former lifetime. These synastry aspects can be painful, you may not be able to understand the attraction, yet the other person is important for your soul growth, and touches you to the very depths of your heart and soul."

His own Chiron is opposite his Saturn. Chiron opposite Saturn is usually quite typical of a very wounding relationship to the father and/or to authority figures in general and can result in feelings of inadequacy and fear of rejection.

Also, with your Pluto conjunct his NorthNode, I think you may have a powerful, transformational and healing (chiron/SN) effect on his life, since it sounds like you're the more emotionally healthy one..


i really would like to thank you so much for your response. his chiron opposition his saturn makes so much sense. he was very very wounded by his father, and still is in some ways.

i can only hope that i’ve had that effect on his life. i am more emotionally mature and ive been working on healing my own past traumas.

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posted April 24, 2020 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astri     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Skye99:
i really would like to thank you so much for your response. his chiron opposition his saturn makes so much sense. he was very very wounded by his father, and still is in some ways.

i can only hope that i’ve had that effect on his life. i am more emotionally mature and ive been working on healing my own past traumas.


Thank you for letting us know this. As you see, astrology doesn't lie!

I just noticed you also have your IC on his Pluto, so once again a transformational and powerful aspect. And Pluto conjunct the AC in the composite chart further confirms this being a profound relationship. You could also be seen as a 'power couple' together. I'm not sure what the NN conjunct uranus in Capricorn would mean. Together making unusual waves climbing the social ladder perhaps and becoming more powerful?

You might want to check some more asteroids, such as 'mentor', 'Aesculapia' is a symbol of resurrection, revival and a miraculous comeback in your horoscope. By sign and house, the position of this asteroid shows you where you can be like the Phantom – The Ghost Who Walks. Just when you think someone/something is over, it comes back from the brink.
'Isis' (=very loyal in love), 'baptistina' (second chances, rebirth,..)
'Baucis', this asteroid indicates where and how one will be rewarded for kindness.

Psyche, Valentine, Cupid,.. there are so many more of course..

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posted April 27, 2020 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skye99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by astri:
Thank you for letting us know this. As you see, astrology doesn't lie!

I just noticed you also have your IC on his Pluto, so once again a transformational and powerful aspect. And Pluto conjunct the AC in the composite chart further confirms this being a profound relationship. You could also be seen as a 'power couple' together. I'm not sure what the NN conjunct uranus in Capricorn would mean. Together making unusual waves climbing the social ladder perhaps and becoming more powerful?

You might want to check some more asteroids, such as 'mentor', 'Aesculapia' is a symbol of resurrection, revival and a miraculous comeback in your horoscope. By sign and house, the position of this asteroid shows you where you can be like the Phantom – The Ghost Who Walks. Just when you think someone/something is over, it comes back from the brink.
'Isis' (=very loyal in love), 'baptistina' (second chances, rebirth,..)
'Baucis', this asteroid indicates where and how one will be rewarded for kindness.

Psyche, Valentine, Cupid,.. there are so many more of course..


with asteroids

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posted May 04, 2020 04:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 05, 2020 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skye99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
in some ways, i feel like our karmic duties are done here. we started talking again, and stopped again. i’m moving closer to where he lives (way closer than i am now) but i don’t think that’s going to make us start talking again. i don’t think i have it in me.

i wonder if todd has seen this?

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posted May 05, 2020 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Skye99

I glanced when you first posted.... but I don't do synastry charts.

I'll look at a composite but for the nature of your question I need vertex,true Lilith (h13) at astro.com
I use Ceres,Pallas,Vesta, Eris,ixiob,pholusorcus,nessus,sedna.
If there are named asteroids similar enough to your names, they can be helpful.
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posted May 06, 2020 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skye99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by todd:
Hi Skye99

I glanced when you first posted.... but I don't do synastry charts.

I'll look at a composite but for the nature of your question I need vertex,true Lilith (h13) at astro.com
I use Ceres,Pallas,Vesta, Eris,ixiob,pholusorcus,nessus,sedna.
If there are named asteroids similar enough to your names, they can be helpful.
todd


thank you todd!!

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posted May 09, 2020 10:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skye99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 10, 2020 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Skye99
First you must remember that you were on the"rebound" as he was apparently.
The composite does not depict a usual emotion/physical driven attraction.

There are strong influences from the unconsciousness as well as from astral or otherworldly planes .

So there are odd pieces to this chart and they may not fit together very well.

Pluto is conjunct to the descendant and ixion and importantly, opposed to the vertex.
First off this shows that there is great selfishness.this usually precludes any real intimacy.
As Venus is loosely conjunct to the vertex and opposed to Pluto,is marked as essentially a sexual hookup.pluto shows his main interest is getting off.this also applies to you but Venus indicates there was a great expectation of emotional intimacy or love.
Here the vertex really stirs the pot.the vertex adds extreme intensity.so intially the sexual sensation was"out of this world" so to speak. The problem here is that the vertex energy is out of this world.though the vertex does intensify human sensation,it is energy from a higher plane also . The point is that the intensity your felt was not really because of him ..or you.this means that the intimacy that one expects to strengthen through sexual union does not happen.
This dynamic is very similar to the dynamic between Venus and pluto.as mentioned, Pluto is extremely selfish and though at first the sex is really good....the sexual desire starts to diminish as the relationship goes on because all Pluto really wants is to get off.
So what happened was that the intensity made you to began forgetting your old bf and starting to see a hot future with this guy.when he started to pull away,your couldn't understand how you could be mistaken about him .
Then this is further mystifying because Pluto with the vertex can indicate a past life connection or influence.so you might have gotten feelings that you and he were meant to be together.like destiny working in your life.
It is enough to feel used, but then for him to act so "evil" toward the end of the affair is even stranger.this negative impulse arose from the ixion conjunction to the descendant and pluto.ixion is a symbol of betrayal and hostility.
So you see it wasn't a simple boy meets girl senario, there were elements and forces from different planes here.
I noticed that sappho is at 15 leo and and square to Eris and nessus.this makes me think that the confusion I and dejection might have made you think of looking for a girlfriend next .
This pattern leads into maybe understanding some of the unconscious dynamics.
First off Eris is conjunct to pallas.this shows that physical affection is very important to you sex makes you express you total self.with nessus opposed to Eris/Pallas the indication is that you might have had abusive experiences in your childhood that have made you a bit self conscious.this would reflect both of you.
You mentioned he had a abusive relationship with his ex or whatever which might indicate that he subconsciously saw that in you.
Neptune is square to this Eris/Pallas-ness opposition.this implies that there was a element of alcohol or other substances.
If this was in excess then that would tend to reinforce the idea of subconscious abuse dynamics were also affecting the relationship.

Another significant pattern is that the midpoints of Saturn/Uranus and Saturn/Neptune are opposed to Lilith.
This shows him to be alternatively enchanting and then draining.though this can give him strong aura and penetrating personality,it also shows one with grand ideas and plans but without the persistance to manifest these ideas.
Neptune/Saturn also reinforces the possibility of alcohol/drug issues.

A bright spot is the Uranus/node conjunction which is trine to Venus and Sedna.
This is a pattern of affection and spontaneous attraction.Sedna adds a emotional truth and honesty.there was a clarify to your feelings for each other and a second sense that allowed you to feel each other's emotions without talking.
Uranus conjunct to the node gave a astral connection.this could manifest as vivid dreams with each other.it gives similar views and expectations of life.It can give a psychic connection where you could read each other's thoughts .
From this emotional connection, you might of helped each other understand each other's inner quandaries or uncertainties.this is shown by the squares of Chiron to the Venus/Sedna conjunction.
But this square is a two sided blade.it does give an amazing understanding of each other's inner selves but this can be emotionally devastating because you know each other's weakness and vulnerability.
This aspect seems to have come in play towards the end.this aspect shows when the relationship is in trouble that critical remarks come more often with no reason.

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posted May 16, 2020 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 18, 2020 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Skye99     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
todd, i want to thank you very much. please let me know if you take donations.

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posted May 19, 2020 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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