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rubynoir
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posted May 20, 2020 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All,

I have posted on here a couple of times in the past few months about a relationship I have entered with my current boyfriend.
We have now been together for 6 months and so far things have been great but recently we have been fighting a lot due to finding out I am 5 weeks pregnant.

I am still unsure whether to continue with my pregnancy, he absolutely does not want children and I thought I felt the same but finding out this news has really confused me...

Is there anything in our composite/synastry that would show us having a child together or hint at this being a long or short term relationship. My boyfriend is a Spanish native and told me at the beginning of our relationship he intends to move back to Barcelona before retirement age but we are both currently living separately here in the UK.

My DOB: 29/07/1993 - 7:12 AM Coventry, United Kingdom

Partner: 21/12/1985 - 21:30 PM Munich, Germany


COMPOSITE: https://www.astro.com/tmpd/cjlmfileazdGUo-u1579984572/astro_621gw_anonymous_anonymous.58821.18440.png


SYNASTRY: https://www.astro.com/tmpd/cjlmfileazdGUo-u1579984572/astro_61gw_anonymous_anonymous.58863.19866.png


Thanks again

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Hikaru29
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posted May 20, 2020 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think the first thing you should ask yourself is: "Do you see yourself long-term with this guy?". So he says he will move back to Spain, are you part of the plan? IMO, having a child 5-months into the relationship is too early...but well, it has happened...

Astrological wise, those squares (Sun/Mars square Saturn/Neptune/Chiron, Uranus square Venus/Mars, Pluto square Moon) in your composite will present great challenges for your relationship.

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rubynoir
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posted May 20, 2020 02:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Hikaru29,

To be honest I thought I could see myself with him for the long term a couple of months back. I found him to be very kind, mature and motivating.
It's only recently after getting to know each other a lot better he presents subtly controlling and critical of me (although he tells me this is constructive and he does it for my benefit).

I do feel it is too early for me to think about where we will be in the future at the moment
and I haven't really discussed that with him although we have planned trips back to his home in Spain next year
as I was supposed to be travelling with him before the pandemic. This pregnancy was unplanned but as you
said it has happened...
I have been to the clinic to discuss my options and they suggested I take a step away from him at the moment because he seems to be steering my thoughts constantly towards a termination and I'm unsure if that's what I want.

Could you please explain further about the aspects? I am not very experienced reading charts.

Thanks x


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DualGemV2
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posted May 20, 2020 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Consider me a prude if you may, 6 months into the relationship and he's already gotten you pregnant that would already be a red flag to me.

Not a fan of guys who "plant their seed" early in a relationship (Yes, I'm male) and knock up there partner.

I wonder if he'll actually stick around or leave you with the responsibility of raising the child.

Although I have no doubt that you could raise the child alone if you had to.

Ironically the same thing happen to a Leo coworker who's also a July born, she a strong and determined single parent.

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posted May 21, 2020 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stoika7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi rubynoir,

the Composite Sun/Jupiter midpoint is conjunct IC/Pluto and square to Moon/North Node, so it seems that having a child is likely, also in your Progessed Composite, prog. Moon has entered the first house and prog. North Node is in 5th house sextile to Jupiter/IC. There seems to be a negative energy cause prog. Nessus is conjunct prog. Moon though, and square to Uranus/Eros... so there's sudden coldness and/or abrupt/aggressive/impulsive decisions might be taken. Prog. Saturn/Neptune is trine the Prog. ASC and sextile Prog. Sun, so it doesn't look like a break-up, and prog. Mars is sextile prog. Uranus and trine Vertex, so a positive change is a possibility...
The Composite Saturn/Neptune square Mars and Pluto square Moon show that there's a strong controlling vibe in the relationship, and that he's especially ruling the partner, and with Uranus involved and square to Mercury/Nessus, it looks like he's not sensitive to your emotional needs. This is why I think that what was suggested to you at the clinic is a good idea, cause it seems he would impose and influence you about your own free choices...
It doesn't look an easy relationship cause there's an underlying clash of wills in the chart and he's not forthcoming, Chiron (in Cancer) is opposite Neptune/Saturn and square Mars so again there's selfishness from his part and a burden is put on you, but Jupiter is sextile Sun and Saturn trine Venus (2nd house), this looks like eventually he might become somehow supportive if needed. In any case, with Moon/North Node trine to Sun and opposite ASC it looks a karmic bond, with South Node on the ASC in 12th house/Leo, your bond might be a lasting one or having an impact to your life even in case/after you're not a couple anymore.

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Bismarck2
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posted May 22, 2020 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bismarck2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Single-parenting is usually a disaster waiting to happen. Sometimes it turns out alright, but statistically speaking, not likely.

You're only five weeks into the pregnancy. This man sounds like he's unreliable. You decide.

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Hikaru29
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posted May 22, 2020 06:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by rubynoir:

Could you please explain further about the aspects? I am not very experienced reading charts.

Thanks x


A clash of wills will be prominent in your relationship. Very often you will find yourselves not on the same page/not wanting the same things, which can be frustrating. Saturn is restrictive & critical...Uranus refuses to abide...Neptune confuses... so you can put the picture together. Moon square Pluto usually digs up lotsa negative emotions and the intensity can be off the charts.

It has only been 6 months... by right you should still be in honeymoon, but he's already presenting a controlling & critical side... not a good sign... but that's clearly what the composite squares are showing. He says he's not ready to be a father, then why wasn't he more careful? He seems to be making this your problem and that's not good.

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DualGemV2
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posted May 22, 2020 11:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DualGemV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is my 2cents, I think you have a good heart rubynoir, but I think your stuck in the good girl + bad guy equation with him being the bad guy (Yes, i'm male).

I've actually noticed that there are lot of Rooster Leos (1993 Leos) looking for the perfect mate right now.

All admit i'm biased I think July born Leo's are better matched with Aries or Gemini suns.

Look for those two signs instead.

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athenaia
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posted May 22, 2020 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for athenaia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I kinda have a feeling you're going to keep this pregnancy because of the way you phrased "pregnant with first child" (rather than accidentally pregnant) and the usage of "father" in the title

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rubynoir
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posted May 23, 2020 06:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you very much for all of your responses.

Yes you are right about to controlling and critical qualities and although I find it frustrating at the best of times, he actually motivates me to change certain habits that aren't serving me well and I do believe I try to do the same for him (although I'm not sure he always takes it in)


I do feel that the honeymoon phase has ended relatively quickly and we haven't experienced all that much together, just as we had planned to book a holiday and do some travelling the COVID pandemic began and put a spanner in the works.
Our flights got cancelled and we began the distancing, he was also very stressed about potentially losing his job and the anxiety of being unable to see his family in Spain so I think this all took a toll on the lightheartedness between us.
I want it to work between us and I'm not one for forcing things but I'm not ready to just give up on him and see things in a negative light due to these aspects. I'm not a perfect girl myself and there are many qualities within me that he gives the benefit of the doubt and has given me a second chance with certain things so for now I will see how we go along in the coming months.

As for my pregnancy I'm taking some time to think less about his opinion and decide for myself whether this is something I can do
alone should I need to and if it's actually the right time. It's funny because in a few relationships I have had we've had a terrible synastry and composite which subsequently ended but not on bad terms... and those I have had a great synastry and composite with have actually been the worst "relationships" I've ever had leading me into depression and low self esteem.

Just can't win it seems.

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Hikaru29
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posted May 24, 2020 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, you did come here asking for opinions on your synastry/composite. Lol.

If that's how you feel then just do whatever feels right to you. I hope you make the best decision for yourself and your baby.

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rubynoir
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posted May 24, 2020 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubynoir     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Hikaru29:
Well, you did come here asking for opinions on your synastry/composite. Lol.

If that's how you feel then just do whatever feels right to you. I hope you make the best decision for yourself and your baby.



Yes and I appreciate it a lot, it has been very helpful and insightful so thanks.
Have you ever seen a bad composite/synastry play out as a good relationship or end up being long term?

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Hikaru29
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posted May 24, 2020 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hikaru29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rubynoir:

Yes and I appreciate it a lot, it has been very helpful and insightful so thanks.
Have you ever seen a bad composite/synastry play out as a good relationship or end up being long term?

A lot of long-term relationships have hard aspects actually. I haven't seen a perfect chart. With hard aspects it just means that your rs will be more bumpy than others - perhaps more arguments, less stable etc. Whether such a relationship can be long-term depends on how well the couple can manage the division between them. Do they compromise or do they fight it out? Do they forgive or will they prefer to give up and go for something better? I feel that some people are better at enduring hardships than others.

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Odette
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posted May 25, 2020 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Odette     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this guys highly immature behaviour... although he is 7 years older than you

I completely agree that you should take a step back from him and decide what you actually want to do because you are the one pregnant, not him.

I’m wondering whether you’ve ever read about attachment styles in psychology. This is a very well-researched area... and it is something that is generally agreed to have a huge impact in relationships.

This guy sounds to me like he has a dismissive avoidant attachment style... I think you should read about this, because it might give you a better understanding of his behaviour and motivations.

Unfortunately people can sometimes do and say things out of irrational fears... and they may even be completely emotionally shut down (due to these fears) to a degree where they simply wouldn’t be able to realise what it means to give life... or take life away...

Don’t base your decision on his irrational reaction.

:edit: This is a good channel... She explains the different attachment styles, and this video is about dismissive attachment:

https://youtu.be/hTepWD3CLe8

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