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pocketrocket
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posted July 08, 2020 07:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pocketrocket     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering does one's chart ruler's aspects to another chart have perhaps negative influence on relationship.


Having the most sensitive part of our charts - ascendant activated by squares and oppositions by another person, it surely must have some impact how we, as ASC, perceive another person or how we feel in that connection. Not just how someone else sees us.

If person A has Taurus asc, Chart ruler - Venus is making opposition to another's Moon, Saturn and square with another's Venus, I don't think that it would be pleasant position for asc person to even consider having something emotional with person B.

Even in case when person's A Venus (which is in natal in 1st house) falls in person's B 5th house?

Ofc, having plutonic vibes myself, activated with this relation, I was thinking why my connection with someone isn't mutual.

I activate his 5th, 7th and 8th house, we have also connection with our rulers. But, his CHART ruler Venus doesn't feel well, having all those hard aspects. Truth to be told, I'm the one more attracted, those aspects really make attraction - friction.

Since, it's not possible to speak generally about this situation and we have 1000 topics related to attraction etc.. and since Saturn influence must be taken into consideration, still ASC and it's ruler connection by itself must be important as well.

I'd like that we stick to the asc theme and don't drift in some random talk, what is so common thing at this forum.

How did you feel as ASC in some relationship.
Share your experience JUST related to ASC aspects and it's ruler's aspects to another person and vice versa.

I'm really curious.

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comdoc
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posted July 08, 2020 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My ASC at 23Leo19, chart ruler 9H Sun 24Aries50. Aries ruler Mars 19Leo38: mutual reception. Former wife (of 7 years) has Moon 24Libra14 and Mars 22Cap40. We were instantly mutually attracted and inseparable. My Aries Sun and Leo Mars rising trine her 8Taurus24 rising chart ruler 8H Venus 18Sag37 in my 5H. Sexualove was the best of my life, by far. My Leo Mars/ASC were in heaven!

"How did you feel as ASC in some relationship.
Share your experience JUST related to ASC aspects and it's ruler's aspects to another person and vice versa."


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Brenda_S
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posted July 16, 2020 04:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenda_S     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think people overlook the Yin/Yang dynamic of planets a lot... Moon and Venus are both Yin planets, and although there will be some sort of energetic dynamic going on, it will be that of annoyance more than anything since both will be wanting to stay in their laid back state yet forced to act with the opposition, compared to say if a Yang planet would be opposing it. And same with the square to Venus, Venus wants to be the attractor and in this case the friction forces Venus to get out of its comfort zone which is not something Venus likes doing.

Saturn limits Venus's natural self expression which is an issue in itself. However, I believe that the natal Moon/Saturn conjunction gives it a more agreeable and not as limiting feeling on the Venus opposition. On that same note, Saturn/Moon is awaiting the care of Venus which Venus feels but is opposed to the idea since it too feels like it shouldn't be working too hard to attract. So, the Moon/Venus opposition is kinda difficult cuz Venus doesn't 'go after' anyone and Moon wants to be cared for. But, Saturn on Moon will almost make it its job to be cared for. And Venus just gets stressed out.

Of course natal Venus aspects play a role... But Venus/Moon hard aspect is kind of a difficult one in my opinion. There could be other interaspects levelling this out though.

As for the ASC feeling good, that's definitely crucial given that its "being" is either "in it" or isn't. In my case as an example, if I can't have a dynamic conversation with someone it's off, which there are more pointers to this of course like Jupiter in the 3rd and my chart ruler Mercury in Aries 11th square Mars, so air/fire is prominent. But, the chart ruler's comfortability aspect definitely either keeps a person suspended, or not.

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Randall
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posted July 24, 2020 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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