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Travelman
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posted October 30, 2020 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Travelman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was using Lynda Hill's Sabian Symbol site but I don't really get it. Seems too...cryptic maybe?

I read the descriptions for 18 Leo (Sun), 15 Leo (Venus), and 22 Leo (Mars) (all of those were rounded up as the site explained) and the descriptions sounded interesting or lovely but I could not help but go "huh?" in trying to figure out how to assign it any meaning to my Davison chart.

How should one go about reading such a chart and what can I look for?

I see....

-Leo Sun conjuct venus and mars
-Leo sun trine saturn and uranus
-Libra rising sextile sun and venus, exact sextile with mars, another exact sextile with uranus
-moon square saturn
-mercury square pluto
-venus trine saturn almost exact
-chrion sextile jupiter
-chiron opp uranus
-uranus conjuct ceres
-sun trine ceres
-sun sextile rising
-mars trine uranus almost exact
-neptune sextile pluto
-MC is trine moon almost exact
-True node trine mercury but square neptune
-Jupiter in the 7th house
-Moon in 5th house
-Sun and mars in 11th house


Those are things that stick out to me.


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Graham
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posted October 30, 2020 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Have you already read Lynda Hill's comments on this ... at http://sabiansymbols.com/a-deeper-look-at-the-symbols/

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posted October 30, 2020 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nomad-monad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here is more reading on this topic:
http://www.mindfire.ca/An%20Astrological%20Mandala/An%20Astrological%20Mandala%20-%20Contents.htm

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Graham
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posted October 31, 2020 04:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by Travelman :-

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I read the descriptions for 18 Leo (Sun), 15 Leo (Venus), and 22 Leo (Mars) (all of those were rounded up as the site explained) and the descriptions sounded interesting or lovely but I could not help but go "huh?" in trying to figure out how to assign it any meaning to my Davison chart.

How should one go about reading (say) "Leo Sun conjunct Venus and Mars"?


1) We know Sun = self-expression; Venus = relationships + values; Mars = drive/inclination-to-act; Leo = (say) "generous".

2) So ... generous actions/behaviour will be valued and expressed in this relationship.

3) We then look at the Sabian Symbols for Sun, Venus and Mars - to see if/how that basic description might be expanded, by knowing their exact degree location.

4) Sun at 17Leo00/59 - Sabian Symbol Leo 18 ... "Leading by example".

5) Venus at 14Leo00/59 - Sabian Symbol Leo 15 ... "People support each other if they feel invited and included."

6) Mars at 21Leo00/59 - Sabian Symbol Leo 22 ... "Controlling animal instincts : Rushing in where angels fear to tread : Losing control : Not thinking about consequences."

So ... generous actions will be valued in this relationship - but they might not be expressed, or expressed correctly.

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posted October 31, 2020 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Travelman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Thanks

I did a poor job explaining.

Wouldn't that sun be rounded up to 19, Mercury to 9, venus to 16, and Mars to 23? I wonder if that changes that meaning.

I noticed there seems to be a ratio of about 2:1 of easier aspects to more challenging aspects with 2 key conjunctions which are usually fairly neutral as far as I understand.

The Davison chart is Leo heavy with Sun, Mercury, Venus and Mars in Leo and Moon in the 5th while the composite is Aqua heavy with mercury, venus and mars being there and moon in the 11th.

I won't say too much but I will say everyone who has seen us together thinks we are super cute together! We do simple things for each other because we have simple needs as far as generosity but they are simple things that show we pay attention to what the other says so I love the things she does for me because it shows she knows me and likewise for her in what I do for her (like her favorite dark chocolate or health drink, etc.)

Although just two placements I have high hopes for the sun trine saturn and venus trine saturn which can hopefully soften the moon square saturn.

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posted October 31, 2020 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by Travelman :-

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Wouldn't that sun be rounded up to 19, Mercury to 9, venus to 16, and Mars to 23? I wonder if that changes that meaning.

All of the above is correct.

So ... this adds Mercury to the conjunction, and changes points 4-6 in my previous reply :-

4) Sun at 18Leo00/59 ... Sabian Symbol Leo 19 ... " lightening up, relaxing and spending time with like-minded and pleasure seeking people.".

5) Venus at 15Leo00/59 ... Sabian Symbol Leo 16 ... "sweeping away elements of life that have been clogging up situations, clearing the air and resolving issues."

6) Mars at 22Leo00/59 ... Sabian Symbol Leo 23 ... "Controlling animal instincts : Rushing in where angels fear to tread : Losing control : Not thinking about consequences."

So ... generous actions will be valued and expressed in this relationship - but there are (childhood conditioned) issues that will harm the relationship if the air is not cleared by confronting/resolving them.

Hence ... the Leo 9 Sabian Symbol for Mercury cautions against "failing to take proper care or concentration" - as that is what will result in those issues being either unrecognised or not correctly addressed.

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posted October 31, 2020 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Travelman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:
Originally posted by Travelman :-

[QUOTE][b]Wouldn't that sun be rounded up to 19, Mercury to 9, venus to 16, and Mars to 23? I wonder if that changes that meaning.



All of the above is correct.

So ... this adds Mercury to the conjunction, and changes points 4-6 in my previous reply :-

4) Sun at 18Leo00/59 ... Sabian Symbol Leo 19 ... " lightening up, relaxing and spending time with like-minded and pleasure seeking people.".

5) Venus at 15Leo00/59 ... Sabian Symbol Leo 16 ... "sweeping away elements of life that have been clogging up situations, clearing the air and resolving issues."

6) Mars at 22Leo00/59 ... Sabian Symbol Leo 23 ... "Controlling animal instincts : Rushing in where angels fear to tread : Losing control : Not thinking about consequences."

So ... generous actions will be valued and expressed in this relationship - but there are (childhood conditioned) issues that will harm the relationship if the air is not cleared by confronting/resolving them.

Hence ... the Leo 9 Sabian Symbol for Mercury cautions against "failing to take proper care or concentration" - as that is what will result in those issues being either unrecognised or not correctly addressed.[/B][/QUOTE]

Now I need to self analyze. I think I have talked about my past a lot with her, I was super shy and bullied, had a good (single) mom but not very affectionate, she was with an abusive prick for a few years. I have been sending her some of my deeper writings from years ago to give her a deeper insight into me.

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posted November 02, 2020 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Graham     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Originally posted by Travelman :-

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Now I need to self analyze. I think I have talked about my past a lot with her, I was super shy and bullied, had a good (single) mom but not very affectionate, she was with an abusive prick for a few years. I have been sending her some of my deeper writings from years ago to give her a deeper insight into me.

And have the two of you also talked a lot about her past?

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Travelman
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posted November 02, 2020 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Travelman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Graham:
Originally posted by Travelman :-

[QUOTE][b]Now I need to self analyze. I think I have talked about my past a lot with her, I was super shy and bullied, had a good (single) mom but not very affectionate, she was with an abusive prick for a few years. I have been sending her some of my deeper writings from years ago to give her a deeper insight into me.



And have the two of you also talked a lot about her past?[/B][/QUOTE]

Yes, we have.

We are both amazed at how natural things flow and how easy things feel so far in the first two months, we just get along so well. We have shared a lot with each other and there feels like a very deep connection. The last few weekends we have spent the entire weekend together and just have an absolute blast (like friends) but it is also very loving and affectionate (bf/gf). We are the type of couple that are also great friends.

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