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lilithbabe
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posted December 11, 2021 09:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilithbabe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi guys,

Posting another question re: Draconic charts since Draco has been my latest fascination over the last couple months and has continued to blow my mind again and again

Here goes my question:

Has anyone ever experienced "mirrored" placements in Tropical vs Draconic synastry?


For example:

In Tropical:
- MY Midheaven conjunct HIS Vertex
- MY Juno conjunct HIS IC

In Draconic:
- HIS Midheaven conjunct MY Vertex
- HIS Juno conjunct MY IC


All above aspects are 0 degree orb exact, both in Tropical and in Draco.


Is this just a coincidence? Or is there something mathematical going on here that I'm possibly unaware of? Or... is this actually truly meaningful?

There's of course more aspects worth noting (Draco to Natal/Tropical Conjunctions, etc.) but I would just like to focus on these specific angle conjunctions in the individual Tropical and Draco charts, and the fact that they EXACTLY mirror each other.

Has anyone else ever seen or experienced mirrored placements like this?

I am trying to wrap my head around whether this is purely coincidental or not.

I also just noticed my Draconic Descendant is exactly conjunct his Natal/Tropical Vertex.


Any experiences, thoughts, ideas?

Love,
Lilithbabe

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AlmaRegulus
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posted December 12, 2021 09:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think this is significant. Basically, it produces a double-whammy across Natal & Draco.

I have it too - in Natal my Moon is conjunct his Sun at 4* orb, in Draco my Sun is conjunct his Moon exactly at less than 1*. It basically means that mt Sun and his Moon are at exactly same angular distance from our North Nodes (which are placed in different signs).

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@eloquent__sky
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posted December 12, 2021 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for @eloquent__sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by lilithbabe:
Hi guys,


Here goes my question:

Has anyone ever experienced "mirrored" placements in Tropical vs Draconic synastry?



Hi Lilithbabe,

I have seen affiliations between people's natals to their partner's draconic charts time and time again and it's one of my favorites and one of the first things I check😍.


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AlmaRegulus
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posted December 12, 2021 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eloquent__sky, but people do part despite Draco & natal conjunctions? It's not a marker of long-term relationships, right?

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@eloquent__sky
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posted December 13, 2021 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for @eloquent__sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Alma, you're correct. I check the op's mentioned aspect (along with 9th and 11th harmonic charts) as one of the first things to gauge the intensity of people's feelings and attraction for their partner. Draconic comparisons will show you who you will meet as you move along your life path. For weighing a relationship's long-term potential, I always check Saturn first (in synastry, composite and) progressed composite) and then a few other things..

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AlmaRegulus
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posted December 13, 2021 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Eloquent__sky, thank you for sharing your experience!!

Wow so indeed there are some answers here. I was a bit disappointed with synastries at one point since they were not giving a clear cut answer whether people would get in a relationship or if they would have any feelings for each other. So I got really excited when I discovered Draco stuff here! It's truly amazing!

May I ask you, from your experience who feels more, the Draco person or the natal person? or both feel it? And do Draco-Draco conjunctions work equally? If Draco-Draco aspect doesn't get linked to a natal placement, the overlap with a natal composite would equally work?

In our case this Draco Sun-Moon conjunction falls exactly on natal composite Moon (and Vesta and Juno with a tight orb). But what I find most amazing is the exact Draco-natal Asc-Dsc conjunction on my Draco name asteroid and Moon-Venus conjunction, as well as Neptune-Valentine DW. And I am more hooked in this relationship with his Draco Dsc - my natal Asc conjunction than when there was an exact Asc-Dsc conjunction only in the natal (and other stuff including in Draco).

Also, how do you weigh the importance of Draco vs 9th vs 11th harmonics? In 9th and 11th harmonics you think only Asc, Moon & NNode matter, or any conjunctions?

Sorry for so many questions but just really appreciate the chance to ask for opinions of an experienced practicing astrologer!

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@eloquent__sky
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posted December 17, 2021 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for @eloquent__sky     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Alma it's my pleasure to be able to answer the questions you have in mind. In general the harmonic person feels the energy more than the natal person whose planets are making aspects to their partner's 9th or 11th harmonic. Also, I always check the 11th harmonic chart for men only. I believe that the natal person feels more because the thing about draconic is that the person themselves don't feel that chart as intensely but as they move forward in their life they start exhibiting more of their draco placement, so then when they cross path with someone who with their natal planets are touching their harmonic chart, they start becoming aware of what it is they want in their life.

Draco-draco conjunctions are also very significant and important and even having the same signs (as not necessarily conjunctions) in both draco charts is significant but I would say that in general the energies of draco to draco are sensed on a less intense level as compared to from draco to natal.
Draco-draco aspects if overlapping with a natal or the common composite is also pretty significant and very strongly felt by both partners.
In the case of your relationship the connections you mentioned are very interesting and sweets and basically show deep soul connections between the two people.
And you are correct in the natal and 11th harmonic I only check the AC and true north node and also the planet ruling the AC in that chart.
I would say that the 11th harmonic chart is as intense as the draconic and then the 9th harmonic is just a little less intense than those two.


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AlmaRegulus
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posted December 26, 2021 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AlmaRegulus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow eloquent__sky! Thank you soooo much for such detailed response! This knowledge is really prescious!

Happy happy holidays dear eloquent__sky!

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