posted March 23, 2015 05:33 PM            

Are you the Pirapus? Cuz I'm the Vx in the synastry and I don't know how this contact manifests..

posted March 24, 2015 05:28 AM            

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Originally posted by EmGem:
Can you explain further Aubyanne? In what way? Would this be too intense for us?

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PRIAPUS is largely guided by the sex of the individual in whose chart he's placed, and his natal aspects. For example, it's easier for men to express theirs; there's a stigma which tends to complicate a woman's expression of her own. So with the dual VERTEX conjunction, the two of you are to explore and experience these elements and traits together, but his may prove more 'active' as the energy is more accessible.

posted March 24, 2015 05:54 AM            

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Originally posted by YellowGerbera:
Oh Actually... My Vx on his Pirapus, exactly and my Pirapus squares his Vx but with an orb of 5. That would be too wide right?

In md. pt. Composite, we have Pirapus opposite BML (the one in the additional object list). I find this interesting also! It seems like we have to learn to balance masculine and feminine vulnerability in the relationship.

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Yes, keep orbs VERY tight for the mathematical points; stuff on the ecliptic and so on. Go for 0°30, and don't go beyond 3°00 -- 2°30, if you can help it.

PRIAPUS is vulnerability, while BML is dominance. Yes, she's inherently feminine, but she's female dominance, so she's a bit like JUNO in hyperdrive without a male counterpart. She's obsessed with independence, freedom, being in control, and detached from anyone who refuses to show her equality and give her fair representation in any relationship or association. BML ('Lilith') says she'd much rather be alone than submit to a partner. This is largely due to her being treated unfairly, abused, and expected to submit to her male partner. So it's equality, respect, and a degree of independence -- or bust.

PRIAPUS is a horse of a different colour. He's innately driven to meld and merge. He can't fathom being alone and seeks to satisfy his deep psychological need for validation and unity through sexual congress and pleasure. Being rep'd by the literally priapic young fertility god, he's in a state of perpetual arousal, and ever-ready to merge in physical union. In fact, he can get a bit wild about it, and very, very obsessive. He doesn't handle rejection well, and will pursue his object of desire with a furious intensity.

The Age of Lilith dawned with the rise of feminism; prior to the women's lib movement, BML was an even more taboo point in a chart than she is today. Now, at least, women openly embracing their BML are simply independent, strong-willed women who prefer to be calling the shots and in control rather than out of it.

And PRIAPUS has always been more accessible to male gender culture than it is to the feminine population with it strongly placed. But, as women are learning to express their BML, so, too, are they beginning to accept their deeper sexual longing. The flipside is the desire to submit to a dominant force within a sexual dynamic. Ironic that femininity has always had this inherent 'instruction' as part of the cultural indoctrination (in certain regions and ancestry more so than others) it is a passive expression, in which she is expected to, well, 'grip the mattress and think of England'. While BML is comfortable with expressing her innate, primal sexuality, she's not cool with doing so in combination with a partner, where she runs the risk of losing her independence.

The female PRIAPUS, on the other hand, is a very actively desiring energy seeking to sexually merge and submit to a partner in order to feel fully consumed by the experience. PRIAPUS doesn't hold back here. He wants union, and is willing to sacrifice independence and control to get it. Equality doesn't matter; only merging completely with the desired or beloved. So PRIAPUS can be insecure, possessive, jealous, and clingy, as a result. The opposite of the BML archetype.

posted March 24, 2015 07:05 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
PRIAPUS is largely guided by the sex of the individual in whose chart he's placed, and his natal aspects. For example, it's easier for men to express theirs; there's a stigma which tends to complicate a woman's expression of her own. So with the dual VERTEX conjunction, the two of you are to explore and experience these elements and traits together, but his may prove more 'active' as the energy is more accessible.

Would it be too intense? Well, what's too intense? The two of you determine what level of intensity you both desire. If you're both looking to be casual friends without the means to explore deep, primal sexual bonding, then it might be seen as 'too intense'. It's relative.

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That's freaky Auby because I have been going through exploring the deep sexual urges I have after repressing them for years in a very rocky relationship and it was triggered the moment I met this person. Whenever we are together the sexual chemistry does feel very earthy and primal. We haven't had sex yet. I initially saw him as someone I could have a casual relationship with but now my feelings are changing. It's almost as if though that there is so much familiar tenderness between us that we don't want to ruin in by having sex too soon. In fact he wants to wait more than me but has never felt it so hard to control himself with me. So much sweetness that we feel agraid to taint.
We also have a cluster of planets around his IC and moon/moon conjunction, Juno conjunct psyche too.
Would love to show you the chart for some input if that's cool?

posted March 24, 2015 07:57 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:

PRIAPUS is vulnerability, while BML is dominance. Yes, she's inherently feminine, but she's female dominance, so she's a bit like JUNO in hyperdrive without a male counterpart. She's obsessed with independence, freedom, being in control, and detached from anyone who refuses to show her equality and give her fair representation in any relationship or association. BML ('Lilith') says she'd much rather be alone than submit to a partner. This is largely due to her being treated unfairly, abused, and expected to submit to her male partner. So it's equality, respect, and a degree of independence -- or bust.

PRIAPUS is a horse of a different colour. He's innately driven to meld and merge. He can't fathom being alone and seeks to satisfy his deep psychological need for validation and unity through sexual congress and pleasure. Being rep'd by the literally priapic young fertility god, he's in a state of perpetual arousal, and ever-ready to merge in physical union. In fact, he can get a bit wild about it, and very, very obsessive. He doesn't handle rejection well, and will pursue his object of desire with a furious intensity.

The Age of Lilith dawned with the rise of feminism; prior to the women's lib movement, BML was an even more taboo point in a chart than she is today. Now, at least, women openly embracing their BML are simply independent, strong-willed women who prefer to be calling the shots and in control rather than out of it.

And PRIAPUS has always been more accessible to male gender culture than it is to the feminine population with it strongly placed. But, as women are learning to express their BML, so, too, are they beginning to accept their deeper sexual longing. The flipside is the desire to submit to a dominant force within a sexual dynamic. Ironic that femininity has always had this inherent 'instruction' as part of the cultural indoctrination (in certain regions and ancestry more so than others) it is a passive expression, in which she is expected to, well, 'grip the mattress and think of England'. While BML is comfortable with expressing her innate, primal sexuality, she's not cool with doing so in combination with a partner, where she runs the risk of losing her independence.

The female PRIAPUS, on the other hand, is a very actively desiring energy seeking to sexually merge and submit to a partner in order to feel fully consumed by the experience. PRIAPUS doesn't hold back here. He wants union, and is willing to sacrifice independence and control to get it. Equality doesn't matter; only merging completely with the desired or beloved. So PRIAPUS can be insecure, possessive, jealous, and clingy, as a result. The opposite of the BML archetype.

It's a fascinating axis, really.

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posted March 24, 2015 04:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Yes, keep orbs VERY tight for the mathematical points; stuff on the ecliptic and so on. Go for 0°30, and don't go beyond 3°00 -- 2°30, if you can help it.

PRIAPUS is vulnerability, while BML is dominance. Yes, she's inherently feminine, but she's female dominance, so she's a bit like JUNO in hyperdrive without a male counterpart. She's obsessed with independence, freedom, being in control, and detached from anyone who refuses to show her equality and give her fair representation in any relationship or association. BML ('Lilith') says she'd much rather be alone than submit to a partner. This is largely due to her being treated unfairly, abused, and expected to submit to her male partner. So it's equality, respect, and a degree of independence -- or bust.

PRIAPUS is a horse of a different colour. He's innately driven to meld and merge. He can't fathom being alone and seeks to satisfy his deep psychological need for validation and unity through sexual congress and pleasure. Being rep'd by the literally priapic young fertility god, he's in a state of perpetual arousal, and ever-ready to merge in physical union. In fact, he can get a bit wild about it, and very, very obsessive. He doesn't handle rejection well, and will pursue his object of desire with a furious intensity.

The Age of Lilith dawned with the rise of feminism; prior to the women's lib movement, BML was an even more taboo point in a chart than she is today. Now, at least, women openly embracing their BML are simply independent, strong-willed women who prefer to be calling the shots and in control rather than out of it.

And PRIAPUS has always been more accessible to male gender culture than it is to the feminine population with it strongly placed. But, as women are learning to express their BML, so, too, are they beginning to accept their deeper sexual longing. The flipside is the desire to submit to a dominant force within a sexual dynamic. Ironic that femininity has always had this inherent 'instruction' as part of the cultural indoctrination (in certain regions and ancestry more so than others) it is a passive expression, in which she is expected to, well, 'grip the mattress and think of England'. While BML is comfortable with expressing her innate, primal sexuality, she's not cool with doing so in combination with a partner, where she runs the risk of losing her independence.

The female PRIAPUS, on the other hand, is a very actively desiring energy seeking to sexually merge and submit to a partner in order to feel fully consumed by the experience. PRIAPUS doesn't hold back here. He wants union, and is willing to sacrifice independence and control to get it. Equality doesn't matter; only merging completely with the desired or beloved. So PRIAPUS can be insecure, possessive, jealous, and clingy, as a result. The opposite of the BML archetype.

It's a fascinating axis, really.

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Wow. Thanks Auby! Very detailed, and lots of information here!

In the synastry, his Pirapus (Leo, 9H) is 43 minutes from my Vx (Leo, 8H). I suppose his pirapus falling in my 8H is HOT for me then

TBH, I have no idea how Pirapus and Lilith feel in relationships. Perhaps it is because I never had these points in my natal activated strongly before. I read more and Pirapus and Lilith are opposites naturally? Then the opposition we have in the composite might make us feel natural...?

Anyway, I think I got the wrong Lilith. Here is what I have in composite:

Pirapus (h22) - 29Leo13, 9H

Lilith (drop down item) - 28Aqu46, 3H
Lilith (h21) - 29Aqu25, 3H
True Lilith (h13) - 7Pis00, 3H

What is more scarry is that it is in VERY tight square (5 minutes) with composite Asc/Dsc axis. Oh and Chiron also sits within an orb on cDsc. I feel these squares are going to make it hard for us to come together.. and then hard to keep us merged or apart from each other. Maybe all of the above. :/

That Pirapus-Lilith axis conjuncts his natal IC/MC axis by 2°16 (Pirapus on his MC+Venus, and Lilith on his IC+Union). From what you wrote, this conjunction sounds awesome! And cLilith is on my nSun/Moon (within an orb).. Yikes..

posted March 25, 2015 12:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
h21 is the actual counterpart of h22 (though it seems that Priapus very often has close aspects with h13 as well).

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Oooo!!!
Thanks, Ceridwen!