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twimpix
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posted February 15, 2023 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for twimpix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I met a girl at my workplace. I literally cannot breathe while I am near her. I have never experienced anything like this. I am just so insanely attracted. When I found out her birthdate, I found these to be the culprit.

Venus square Mars
Pluto conjunct Mars
Venus conjunct Neptune
Mars conjunct Uranus
also
Moon square Mars

She said she had a boyfriend when I asked her out a year ago.

I have got this urge that this needs to be acted upon. I am not usually very passionate (Aquarius Venus and Mars) but my current feeling is, that despite the difficult squares, I would jump into this head first. I am at a stage in my life where I have learned to handle my ego and I am willing to compromise if necessary to make something work if something was to ever ignite between us.

I first saw her a year and a half ago, it started with intense eye contact, then when we first talked I could tell her legs turned to jelly and that she was a mess.

After I learned that she was taken, I have withdrawn but the intensity remained and we could not stop flirting after all. When I managed to construct a sentence in her presence, that is.

I wish I knew to what extent this feeling is mutual.

My current feeling is, that if this ever going to materialize, this would be my big karmic objective, to make it work. Because I know that if it is going to be good, it will be the best ever. But it will take a lot of work and acceptance of the other. And I am okay with it.

Do you think this is reasonable? Or is this a disaster waiting to happen?

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posted February 16, 2023 02:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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mee_chryssa
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posted February 17, 2023 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your mars is opposite her Venus... you're really attracted to her... that's why ))

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted February 17, 2023 08:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you truly love someone, pursue them and make them yours.

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twimpix
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posted February 18, 2023 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for twimpix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I feel like the time will come for that. Like it is inevitable.

I have never been so overwhelmed. It's like I can't imagine anything can top this.

How could I pursue anyone else when I know it would only be second best? I wouldn't wanna do that to anyone.

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posted February 18, 2023 10:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
try to talk with her if you feel overwhelmed... just to get out of the fears that you have and after you can think more clearly on how to go after her, if you still want to...

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twimpix
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posted February 18, 2023 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for twimpix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
try to talk with her if you feel overwhelmed... just to get out of the fears that you have and after you can think more clearly on how to go after her if you still want to...

It's not fears that I have. I am at peace with whatever needs to come. I am using astrology to help me analyze how I feel. As I have said above, I have never experienced these aspects and they are very strong, so it's like suddenly I am being thrown into this place.

My instincts are telling me I must be patient and an opportunity will come.
I cannot openly pursue her since my official information is that she's taken. My gut is telling me that it is no longer the case, but we will see. I may be wrong. But for now, I need to act like she is, I am not going to meddle in an existing relationship. When the time is right and she feels what I feel too, she will hint at the fact that the way is clear.

All I know is that I want to experience these aspects with her. I want to be close.

Looking at the supportive aspects, I can see a lot of nice things too. I have looked up asteroids and we have Juno conjunct South Node which, I read, is a karmic indicator.

I believe in signs and from what I have experienced so far this might be the karma I need to fulfil in this life. I never expected an easy relationship with anyone and I know this one if it is meant to be, will not be easy because we are very different.

And if it wasn't meant to be, I am okay with it too. I had to learn to let go a long time ago so I have no problem with that.
But these insanely strong emotions stirring in me are not by accident either.

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posted February 18, 2023 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Honestly, you are concerning me a bit ))) I see that there is her Uranus/Neptune being conjunct with your Venus/Mars. With Mars, I understand that this is making you a bit outofordinary and because its opposite her Venus, and your Mars being in your 12th house, I understand that this might be the case for the uncontrollable emotions you have for her and that you don't understand them.

The conjunction doesn't concern me so much as the fact that your mars is in your 12th house and I think thats the bigger reason for why you feel like this.

I was saying that you should still talk with her as colleagues and friends because these emotions tame down when you overcome whatever is making you feel anxious. Like a 'hello how are you doing' will give you confidence and maybe in the normal conversations that you will have with her, you will find out if she is still with someone so you wont wait longer... Dont ask her though, this will reinforce her to say yes if she told you this before.

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posted February 18, 2023 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for twimpix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Honestly, you are concerning me a bit ))) I see that there is her Uranus/Neptune being conjunct with your Venus/Mars. With Mars, I understand that this is making you a bit outofordinary and because its opposite her Venus, and your Mars being in your 12th house, I understand that this might be the case for the uncontrollable emotions you have for her and that you don't understand them.

The conjunction doesn't concern me so much as the fact that your mars is in your 12th house and I think thats the bigger reason for why you feel like this.

I was saying that you should still talk with her as colleagues and friends because these emotions tame down when you overcome whatever is making you feel anxious. Like a 'hello how are you doing' will give you confidence and maybe in the normal conversations that you will have with her, you will find out if she is still with someone so you wont wait longer... Dont ask her though, this will reinforce her to say yes if she told you this before.


Sure, I guess 12th house Mars has been unhelpful in terms of connecting with people in general so I see how this can seem.
What first stood out for me though was the Venus sq Mars and Pluto conjunct Mars, I have read up on these.

We talk very often since we bump into each other a lot and I can sense this tension, in a good way, in the air between us, wanting to release.
There have been mild, playful flirting from both sides.
It's been going on for a year now. As long as I'm concerned, I shot my shot, I wouldn't be asking her again.
What shocks me is how strong the feeling still is. My heart always skips a beat every time she shows up and I need a few seconds to calm my breathing. Even after a year. And I can tell there's some reaction from her end too.

I am not actively waiting for anything. I am getting on with my life and let everything play out as they need to.

I like analyzing, trying to understand why I feel the way I feel, and it helps me relate to other people too.

But also, I appreciate any insight you have, and I thank you.

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mee_chryssa
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posted February 18, 2023 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its interesting that you said that your heart skips a bit everytime you see her... it happened to me recently and I dont know why either... )))

It might be your Mars opposite her Venus... I dont see any other reason... but this is more physical and the skipping beat should be more emotional...

You have your Moon in the same sign as her Sun and it might be that, but its out of orb to be an actual conjunction... But it still relates to it as in you wanting her to be in your life and taking a passing role until she decides... so it might still be felt even though its not a close conjunction.

Now that I think about it... a work colleague that had his Moon conjunct my Sun stalked me once and he had an amazing story about our relationship even though it wasn't true and most of the things that happened were distorted, reimagined... Scared the heck out of me... I didnt sleep for days and I was so scared.

So I think this is it because it really fits with your behaviour now... You're not used to be so touched in your heart and you don't know how to handle it as a man... for us, its easier, because we connect emotionally in any relationship, and we dont lead the relationship, now you are waiting for her with this conjunction (even if its out of orb). Adding the Mars opposite Venus which its extremely attractive and your mars says go and your moon says stay ))

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girlwiththerainysoul
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posted February 18, 2023 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for girlwiththerainysoul     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with mee_chryssa.

I think you need to stop overthinking and share your thoughts and feelings with her. Be friendly and let her in on things slowly

Take a patient approach with her. She might need some time to figure things out. Don't let insecurity get in the way. The charts look good, you just need to put in the effort and I think you guys will be okay eventually.

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posted February 18, 2023 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for twimpix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Now that I think about it... a work colleague that had his Moon conjunct my Sun stalked me once and he had an amazing story about our relationship even though it wasn't true and most of the things that happened were distorted, reimagined... Scared the heck out of me... I didnt sleep for days and I was so scared.

Ouch! I can assure you nothing of the sort is happening in this case. We are on very friendly terms but with this underlying intensity. The teasing is both ways.
I always try to be very factual. I need to be, in order to correctly judge situations, especially if I am asking for insight from others. Distorted information yields false results that way. I'm the kind of guy who wants straight answers, no matter whether they are positive or negative.
As I said above, I have made peace with every eventuality. The reason I posted is that this has been ongoing for quite some time now and the intensity of the feeling is not waning and I find it curious.

You have judged well, I don't think I have ever been touched this way by anyone. I had two previous relationships and I always wondered if this was it. I have never felt the passion that I am feeling now. Due to my work, I meet a lot of people. A lot. I have met plenty of nice girls. But this sort of powerful chemistry is very new to me. I am not joking when I say that I am close to hyperventilating for a few seconds when we come in contact.

I have been learning more about astrology in recent years, just to understand myself mainly. The latest revelation was that I have Moon opposite Venus in my birth chart which has been causing problems in terms of, I could never decide what I wanted from a partner. I am very attracted to Aquarian features (Venus, Mars) but what I feel I need is the care of a Cancer (Moon). And I could never decide which one should win out. I go for one, I won't be fulfilled the other way. One way or another, I will end up with a person that will be very different from me in many ways. And I think that is my karmic lesson, to learn to make compromises in a relationship and accept and love others as they are. And this is what I want in return, really. Someone to just accept me with all my weirdness. I know it is a hard lesson but I think I have amassed the required self-awareness to see it through if the opportunity arises.

I like this girl. Besides the fact that I am super attracted, she's the kind who could take care of my emotional needs.

Well, I will keep up the jokey-flirty interactions, I am not going to press her on anything, as I said, I have shot my shot already, so let's see what fate brings. Whether it was meant to be or not. I wish it was, but hey...

Thank you for your insights, it's good that I can see myself through your comments, it gives me perspective.

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posted February 18, 2023 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, I wouldnt worry about Moon opposite Venus. Its actully a good aspect that shows caring in relationships. Even if it is a back and forth with every opposition, this one is going back and forth between emotional expression and physical expression of love. So its not bad in any way.

You can check in previous relationships if you ever had a conjunction or opposition to their Venus and maybe thats the reason for feeling that its an one time thing, if it didnt happen before. These two aspects are for sure a sign of physical attraction and that in that area everything will be fine between you two. Although, your Mars and hers are in a square sign based aspect and this might not turn as it should... meaning you might not be compatible in the end.

I understand why you feel so drawn to her. Its this opposition, she has a Scorpio Mars which is screaming sex appeal on her part, and you have your Mars in the 12th house which shows that you like a passionate relationship, which she pretty much might like too, but I dont know her rising sign to say for sure. But shes also tender and caring with her Sun/Moon in water signs, she's probably very feminine and beautiful.

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posted February 19, 2023 03:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for twimpix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mee_chryssa:
Hey, I wouldnt worry about Moon opposite Venus. Its actully a good aspect that shows caring in relationships. Even if it is a back and forth with every opposition, this one is going back and forth between emotional expression and physical expression of love. So its not bad in any way.

You can check in previous relationships if you ever had a conjunction or opposition to their Venus and maybe thats the reason for feeling that its an one time thing, if it didnt happen before. These two aspects are for sure a sign of physical attraction and that in that area everything will be fine between you two. Although, your Mars and hers are in a square sign based aspect and this might not turn as it should... meaning you might not be compatible in the end.

I understand why you feel so drawn to her. Its this opposition, she has a Scorpio Mars which is screaming sex appeal on her part, and you have your Mars in the 12th house which shows that you like a passionate relationship, which she pretty much might like too, but I dont know her rising sign to say for sure. But shes also tender and caring with her Sun/Moon in water signs, she's probably very feminine and beautiful.


She is indeed the way you described.

I have been analyzing past relationships and I have never had a Mars-Venus contact of any kind with either of them. Outside relationships, I have experienced the sextile and trine but I would not call them noteworthy.
Interestingly, my closest colleague has her Venus sq my Mars, and while there is some tension, it's nothing as powerful as the example in the OP.

So this led me to think that the Pluto-Mars has to play some role as well. I have seen it discussed on these forums and they described very well how I feel. As I said before, the strength and the persistence of these feelings are what surprise me.

Almost like an outside observer, I am curiously awaiting how this will play out.

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posted February 19, 2023 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LaceyLeigh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don’t want to be the bearer of bad news, but you never mentioned whether she was single at this time. Plus, you are 15 years older than her AND a coworker. This is a recipe for disaster. I don’t think you should pursue this at all.

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posted February 19, 2023 09:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mee_chryssa     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
I don’t want to be the bearer of bad news, but you never mentioned whether she was single at this time. Plus, you are 15 years older than her AND a coworker. This is a recipe for disaster. I don’t think you should pursue this at all.

Yeah, its difficult.

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posted February 19, 2023 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for twimpix     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by LaceyLeigh:
I don’t want to be the bearer of bad news, but you never mentioned whether she was single at this time. Plus, you are 15 years older than her AND a coworker. This is a recipe for disaster. I don’t think you should pursue this at all.

I know, and I will not. Whatever happens, happens.

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