posted July 14, 2015 03:27 PM            

Is the composite ascendant also in Leo?

The challenge would be that the South Node in Aquarius in the 6th will often challenge the Venus Leo with the tendency towards obsessive-compulsive impersonality and erudite, mental rebelliousness... The relationship may experience periods of fanaticism in some direction, likely in thinking they must constantly be working or caring for others, being of service, etc. and will need grounding in the 12th... quiet time, and candlelight, creating sanctuary... understanding that it is a service to others just being at peace...

posted July 14, 2015 04:37 PM            

Just noticed my nVenus is not that far away from the cSN. hmm, this could intensify the 6th house aquarian matters I suppose

The Asc is 1 deg Virgo. just a few degrees away from her Sun

posted July 14, 2015 09:14 PM            

I also want to say with your Sun at the anaretic degree of Pisces and a loose moon/Neptune conjunction, plus that Pluto Venus trine, that maybe you're primed to learn the lessons of universal love and spiritual compassion. Forgive yourself, honour her, know that all is well...

posted July 15, 2015 01:23 PM            

It has been a big lesson going through this relationship. In a painful manner also unfortunately.
I can say that I am fairly intelligent & deep when it comes to matters of love. usually can't manage out mine though hehe

I was always curious, almost ready also to begin a new thread asking how does Venus in opposition to Lilith manifest. I think u just answered my question in a way!
The ego and untamed character of Lilith in Leo seems to be something of a hassle for Venus in Aqua treating love in a free and unconditional manner.
Will indeed try to balance this energy out!

posted July 15, 2015 08:07 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Yeah I don't think it will always be applicable but I think there's significance when it does happen... This is just my take on it of course

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Yeah, I checked my top 15 charts of deep soul connexions and expected strong aspects to the cNNODE. I was honestly very surprised.

posted July 16, 2015 05:17 PM            

His Hybris (Hubris) on our composite North Node as well as his Altjira (and his Juno).. Our composite north node is conjunct our composite descendant and each of our natal descendants also...

posted July 16, 2015 08:33 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
Asteroids to the composite NN are interesting, using serennu's ephemeris I learned some funny things...

His Hybris (Hubris) on our composite North Node as well as his Altjira (and his Juno).. Our composite north node is conjunct our composite descendant and each of our natal descendants also...

The Hybris is the funny part. heh. He does seem over confident about the relationship sometimes (this coming from me must sound pretty silly though )

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Believe it or not, HYBRIS is a violence marker, rather than relating to pride (that's more NIOBE). I was wondering why; I'm just relating it to hybristophilia, which is where I got that delineation. But Ami has seen it, too. So, now I'm intrigued.

I also didn't see it as active in many killer's charts. However, the hybristophile is drawn to the fantasy / delusion of devoting to a charismatic power. So I can see why this is more related to cult leaders, and those who deceive with charisma. I'll have to explore that in greater depth.

MYTHOLOGY

In Ancient Greece, Hybris was a pretty nasty Goddess, symbolising insolence, violence, outlandish behaviour and reckless pride. 'The better path is to go by on the other side towards justice; for Dike (Justice) beats Hybris (Outrage) when she comes at length to the end of the race. But only when he has suffered does the fool learns this.'

ASTROLOGY

Now Hybris is a very blatant influence and in your natal chart, indicates an area of negative ‘potential’, but do keep in mind please that nothing is absolute. Everyone has Hybris somewhere, and subsequent aspects mean little as everything is based on individual life evolution.

Hybris in the natal chart indicates where one can toss their sensible nature to the side and act completely out of character. It is an area where one could locate extreme bad manners, violent outbursts or tendencies, extreme arrogance, and ridiculous levels of pride. On a minor scale, it can indicate a stubborn stance regards personal opinion and also a hidden side that can be quite reckless. Rulership and house position will be most telling regards the actual emotive connection to Hybris – with aspects to Hybris indicating possible means of physical expression of the influence.

In transit, Hybris is a tinder box of potential, with not all of it being a negative. Obviously, the extreme potential is there and should be considered in your chart as a time to be aware and take more personal care. But on the positive side, it can be the arrogant snap needed to wake you up and get you motivated to move out of a demeaning situation.

On research, this asteroid is not overly active in the charts of serial killers but it is quite commonly found in the charts of cult leaders. Jim Jones experienced Hybris contra parallel Saturn, Luc Jouret square Pluto, David Koresh experienced Hybris conjunct Charybdis, oppose Pallas.

It was this horrendous news story that encouraged me to explore and find this asteroid in aspect. So I looked up a local tragedy. Martin Bryant, responsible for the shocking Port Arthur Massacre in 1986experiences no aspects to natal Hybris. However, on the date of the massacre, Hades oppose Hybris (he also experiences Sun conjunct Hades in the natal), Ceres was oppose the Hades/Hybris conjunction. Also, Astraea (decision/one way path/judgement) was conjunct Hybris, and sadly, the North Node was conjunct his natal Mars. There were numerous other asteroids, mostly retrograde, that can explore the depths of this individuals troubled soul but……

Possible Keywords: violence, possible violence, violent tendencies, out of character behaviour, excessive pride, extreme arrogance, gaining enough pride to move on from a damaging situation, finally defending self, unable to change path due to personal belief, stubborn attitudes.

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posted July 16, 2015 08:49 PM            

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Originally posted by yungang_grotto:
She seems to want acknowledgment, seems like a key feature of Lilith... i can't figure out right now how much attention i should be giving mine... Her position in Libra in my chart is currently very instructive for me... I do really look to externals for recognition... realizing this tendency is rooted in a feeling of rejection and... How do I soothe this? The answer comes through other parts of the chart and seeing ourselves holistically I guess; we gotta forgive our own darkness even as we express it, no matter what is happening, touch into that still point within us which is never swayed even by the most violent passion; and love ourselves regardless, laugh at our own wild, uncontrollable nature as 'the witness,' as true or higher Self, who understands so deeply. .. I think befriending and understanding her will ultimately help us with the 'know thyself' maxim, which is one of the ways in which astrology heals, I guess...

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My BML is 21° Libra exactly conjunct PLUTO, 2° conjunct my SUN in 2H.

posted July 16, 2015 10:10 PM            

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Yeah this guy... The thing about throwing all the good sense out the window does seem to apply in some of the ways he's relating... He's usually pretty sensible and wise... But with Hybris on his descendant and conjunct our North Node I guess he's really embodying those things in relationship... sigh. hoping he can see his way out. It's funny that it is on his Juno because my Juno is near my South node (and his part of fortune)... We both have things to learn in this department, no question.

posted July 17, 2015 02:46 AM            

Ugh. That thread. It meant well, but, wow. What a horrible characterisation! Yeah, we may refuse to participate in unequal partnerships, but that's kind of the worst of it. Sure, plenty can misuse the energy, but it can make one a tremendous champion of equality, and willing to confront bigotry in the social strata. We won't give into the status quo just to belong. That's not a bad thing!

HYBRIS is pretty fascinating. Turns out it's 1° conjunct my SUN-PLUTO-BML; his is rising from the 12H at 0°. I'm going to have to study that further.

posted July 17, 2015 04:38 PM            

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Ugh. That thread. It meant well, but, wow. What a horrible characterisation! Yeah, we may refuse to participate in unequal partnerships, but that's kind of the worst of it. Sure, plenty can misuse the energy, but it can make one a tremendous champion of equality, and willing to confront bigotry in the social strata. We won't give into the status quo just to belong. That's not a bad thing!

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Yep I hear ya!

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HYBRIS is pretty fascinating. Turns out it's 1° conjunct my SUN-PLUTO-BML; his is rising from the 12H at 0°. I'm going to have to study that further.

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What a potent combo! I'm interested to hear what you discover and how you feel about it. Astrology kinda lets us look at ourselves from outside ourselves at times, doesn't it?

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Oddly enough, ALTJIRA resonates, too. It's 0° conjunct his SATURN-INTERKOSMOS; mine is conjunct my PALLAS on his EROS. Wow! That would certainly explain some things. I love the Dreamtime. Aboriginal philosophy and religion is so fascinating to me.

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Your Pallas on his Eros somewhat explains the psychosexual research I guess! With Altjira there too, that explains a lot actually... sounds so fascinating indeed...