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Topic: Todd I a few questions.
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ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 1246 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 06, 2015 01:13 PM
When you read my composite and synastry charts. Was the information you gave about the charts accurate? Also you said something about the relationship being about desire and sexuality is that a bad thing? That I was in denial when I said I only wanted to be friends with the person. How do you know that I am in denial? Is it something you picked up on in the charts? You said that there was a Pluto/Ascendant conjunction in the composite. How do you know this for sure when I didn't use the other persons correct birth time? IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6663 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 04:42 AM
I think Todd does a lot of cold-reading, to be honest. He'll be accurate in some vague ways, or off the mark when he gets more specific -- and even vice versa. He goes off of feedback. If you later found that a birth time was wrong, then that should dramatically change his reading, yes, leading to plenty of it being invalid. And, one would think, if reading the charts provided, also dramatically change the accuracy of said reading. (With the correct time, accuracy should improve.) As it stands, he can't tell you your own feelings. Only you can do that. Period. Astrology is a magnificent tool which can yield remarkable insight when practised by a respectful, adept astrologer. It does not claim to possess mystical or empathic guidance, however. An astrologer may practise as both, but they tend to be upfront about their being both a psychic and an astrologer. I'd be wary of any who automatically attribute feelings or motives to members of a synastry or composite, drawing from nothing more than the chart. I'd be doubly concerned if they justify their readings by saying they're 'just that good'. Now, if they are practising as both a psychic and astrologer, as aforementioned, that's different. Then it's up to you how well they're doing. But an astrologer will read the charts to their full capability, using all the knowledge they possess, and then seek clarification and understanding from the client. At least by running synastry with the natals to the composite. Something. They won't just start assigning actions, feelings, and motivations to the charts themselves. That's NOT how good astrology is done. IP: Logged |
thegrinning_cat Knowflake Posts: 287 From: Registered: Jun 2015
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posted December 07, 2015 05:48 AM
What troubles me deeply, is exactly this kind of sureness by which "readings" are thrown at you.All charts are diagrams of very abstract forces. Of course you can see tendencies, with experience, which might be right. But what is always important for me, when someone askes me about his or her chart is, to stay humble and make suggestions, not statements. And not to throw something in their face, after just a glance at something. I'm not a professional but even if I were, I just can't stand people who claim to know everything. Better use some conjunctive.
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6663 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 05:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by thegrinning_cat: What troubles me deeply, is exactly this kind of sureness by which "readings" are thrown at you.All charts are diagrams of very abstract forces. Of course you can see tendencies, with experience, which might be right. But what is always important for me, when someone askes me about his or her chart is, to stay humble and make suggestions, not statements. And not to throw something in their face, after just a glance at something. I'm not a professional but even if I were, I just can't stand people who claim to know everything. Better use some conjunctive.
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DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3126 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted December 07, 2015 06:05 AM
Please don't quoteExactly. Looking at my synastry with mars square Pluto some astrologers would believe that we beat the crap out of each other. We don't even argue. We did, don't get me wrong, but we worked through it. Now we just get a little heated competition I'd say but not raised voices or storming off. I might sulk for 10 minutes. LOL Oh I guess we'll have a big fight about something every blue moon or so but that's a far cry from the physical abuse that you normally hear about. We had people saying that I'd strike her eventually (I'm Pluto). Nope. I've gotten plenty angry that first year but no such thing ever happened. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6663 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 06:07 AM
Nice, right? I've got an exact MARS conjunct PLUTO in my synastry. He said he'd gnaw off his own hand before raising it against me. Thing is, he really would. IP: Logged |
DopGang Knowflake Posts: 3126 From: MBTI - INTJ -- Enneagram - 5w6 Registered: Jun 2015
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posted December 07, 2015 06:10 AM
I just pictured a man, nom nom nom, going to town on his arm like corn on the cob. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6663 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 06:22 AM
quote: Originally posted by DopGang: I just pictured a man, nom nom nom, going to town on his arm like corn on the cob.
Yep. He's that much of a gentleman. Not just women, either. Kids, too. He came unglued during Whiplash, stating that, as a former officer of the military, the 'antagonist''s behaviour was inexcusable. He also flinches if violence of any kind is depicted against or involving a woman. I've seen it. It's no act. Heh. His Libra MARS is hardcore, man. IP: Logged |
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posted December 07, 2015 05:06 PM
Honestly, I've been watching Todd's posts for a while (yes I know that probably sounds stalkerish, but I lurked before I joined), and I actually think he's a great astrologer. Nobody is perfect and everybody is going to get SOME things wrong, but he generally gets closer to the mark than most astrologers, or astrology-enthusiasts.To be totally blunt, I'd trust his take on something before some other astrologers, who, provided you pay them first (or they think they might be able to convince you to buy a reading), will tell you anything to want to hear, whether it's true or not. It's true that whatever you feel should take precedence, but that doesn't mean that nothing he says, holds value, most of it does. Take what he says that is accurate, focus on that, and don't worry about the rest, I say.
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LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18288 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 05:16 PM
quote: Originally posted by Spongebob: Honestly, I've been watching Todd's posts for a while (yes I know that probably sounds stalkerish, but I lurked before I joined), and I actually think he's a great astrologer. Nobody is perfect and everybody is going to get SOME things wrong, but he generally gets closer to the mark than most astrologers, or astrology-enthusiasts.To be totally blunt, I'd trust his take on something before some other astrologers, who, provided you pay them first (or they think they might be able to convince you to buy a reading), will tell you anything to want to hear, whether it's true or not. It's true that whatever you feel should take precedence, but that doesn't mean that nothing he says, holds value, most of it does. Take what he says that is accurate, focus on that, and don't worry about the rest, I say.
Not speaking about anyone in particular, but just because someone gives negative interpretations of ALL charts ALL the time, doesn't mean they are more realistic. Life may be harsh, but not that harsh. Maybe they have a negative outlook on life or worse, a patterned profile.
------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18288 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 05:22 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: When you read my composite and synastry charts. Was the information you gave about the charts accurate? Also you said something about the relationship being about desire and sexuality is that a bad thing? That I was in denial when I said I only wanted to be friends with the person. How do you know that I am in denial? Is it something you picked up on in the charts? You said that there was a Pluto/Ascendant conjunction in the composite. How do you know this for sure when I didn't use the other persons correct birth time?
But to be honest, I don't understand what you wrote here. Of course he wrote what he believed to be accurate. Asking an astrologer how they know something "for sure" is moot, it's a result of studying astrology, and it's just one view, so you shouldn't put this pressure on him, as if he needs to justify himself or something. These are just astrological opinions, like all astrology, not some law you need to abide by. ------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... LeeLoo's Esotericorner IP: Logged |
todd Knowflake Posts: 1134 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 07, 2015 06:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by Aubyanne: I think Todd does a lot of cold-reading, to be honest. He'll be accurate in some vague ways, or off the mark when he gets more specific -- and even vice versa. He goes off of feedback.
He goes off of feedback. whats your problem? my reading are complete without feedback and I rarely elaborate on a reading. for that matter I don't like to know much about the chart as I give better readings when I have a "blank" slate He'll be accurate in some vague ways, again you obvious read the feedback selectively to degrade me. I often get comments as to how articulate and accurate my reading are. You are a moderator so why don't you act like one and not hijack ChildofVenus's thread, as you have already done.doesn't this forum have a "stay on topic" rule? this post was a question to me not a request for self revelations and discussions of my techniques and short comings. I have posted here on and on for a number of years and I always leave again because of comments your trolls. I have seen people run off by this childish jealousy on this forum before.
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todd Knowflake Posts: 1134 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 07, 2015 06:19 PM
ChildofVenusyou are obsessed with this guy. you are asking the same questions over and over. I suggest you go back and reread what ceridwen wrote on your last post. rahu
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todd Knowflake Posts: 1134 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 07, 2015 06:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by ChildofVenus: When you read my composite and synastry charts. Was the information you gave about the charts accurate? Also you said something about the relationship being about desire and sexuality is that a bad thing? That I was in denial when I said I only wanted to be friends with the person. How do you know that I am in denial? Is it something you picked up on in the charts? You said that there was a Pluto/Ascendant conjunction in the composite. How do you know this for sure when I didn't use the other persons correct birth time?
You said that there was a Pluto/Ascendant conjunction in the composite. the activating factor was the square of mercury to pluto, which would not change if the exact time was not known. as I said you have put this chart of 3 times and gotten several responses but you still seem to looking for someone to tell you it will be all nice and good between you and him. i'm sure that there are several astrologer here who love to sugar coat their response. why don't you ask one of them. todd IP: Logged |
Vajra Knowflake Posts: 1738 From: Registered: Dec 2012
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posted December 07, 2015 06:38 PM
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6663 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 07:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Not speaking about anyone in particular, but just because someone gives negative interpretations of ALL charts ALL the time, doesn't mean they are more realistic. Life may be harsh, but not that harsh. Maybe they have a negative outlook on life or worse, a patterned profile.
That's my thought, too, Lee.
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llewsacm Knowflake Posts: 629 From: Registered: Mar 2015
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posted December 07, 2015 07:38 PM
quote: I really don't see why they can't peacefully co-exist with each other. Why not let each poster decide for themselves which approach suits them? [/B]
100% agree with this. I can appreciate Todd's style and actually felt some genuine enthusiasm when I started reading his replies to posts. It may not be for everyone, but I think with recent posts on this forum directed towards him, there has to be some significant value associated with his interpretations. I take it as having another solid resource to learn from and I'm grateful for that! IP: Logged |
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posted December 07, 2015 08:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: Not speaking about anyone in particular, but just because someone gives negative interpretations of ALL charts ALL the time, doesn't mean they are more realistic. Life may be harsh, but not that harsh. Maybe they have a negative outlook on life or worse, a patterned profile.
Your first comments here are a bit passive-aggressive.
That aside - I've never seen Todd be entirely negative; he usually starts out with the good (and there's always some good to be found in all synastries and composites), before going into the negative - which is also always going to exist, because no pairing is ever going to be perfect. I don't think you provided a fair depiction of what Todd does. I've lurked for a good while and I've got to be honest, I find his interpretations more positive than some of the ones you've given - usually whenever someone posts composites or synastries and mentions twin souls or soulmates, you respond with every single flaw in the synastry and composite. No, I'm not saying that everyone who comes through should be given nothing but hearts and flowers in response, but I do think that presenting overwhelmingly negative readings can be just as detrimental, no matter how well-meaning the intentions of the person giving the reading. That aspect aside, my broader point is that Todd isn't the only one who supplies negative answers in his chart intepretations, why is he being singled out for it? Especially when he does in fact list positives too? If someone can point out to me several posts and establish a pattern to show that Todd says nothing but negative things, I'll stand corrected, but right now I really just can't agree, it wouldn't be fair or accurate. This is starting to feel less like objective criticism of someone's astrology and more like an established group picking on the newcomer (Todd). If he's actually not doing anything against Terms of Service, I don't understand the scolding. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6663 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 08:02 PM
I fully agree with that, Vajra. And, Todd, I'm going to come right out and say it: In the past, you've been a bit of a thorn in the side of the mods. I remember these days. I'm not fond of them. We did nothing but grinned publicly and bared it. The negativity, the rudeness, and the general 'I'm right above all else' high-and-mighty attitude. No. Not a fan. Lately, things have been better. They have. I've tried to roll with it. But there are things I WILL not accept. Being told that I'm less of an astrologer than you are. Especially when I see I'm trained to spot a lot of the parlour tricks I see you employing. It's insulting. Kind of like -- sure, you may have them fooled -- but not me, pal. So, either be respectful to me, or ... Actually, no, that's it. Just show me the respect I deserve. We'll be fine, coexisting perfectly well here. I can't ask you to lay off the negativity, because that seems part of your 'style'. To each their own. If that works for you, then it works. But lay off the attitude. Period. IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014 Knowflake Posts: 18288 From: Venus cornering Neptune Registered: Mar 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 08:08 PM
'Your first comments here are a bit passive-aggressive.That aside - I've never seen Todd be entirely negative; he usually starts out with the good (and there's always some good to be found in all synastries and composites), before going into the negative - which is also always going to exist, because no pairing is ever going to be perfect. I don't think you provided a fair depiction of what Todd does. I've lurked for a good while and I've got to be honest, I find his interpretations more positive than some of the ones you've given - usually whenever someone posts composites or synastries and mentions twin souls or soulmates, you respond with every single flaw in the synastry and composite. No, I'm not saying that everyone who comes through should be given nothing but hearts and flowers in response, but I do think that presenting overwhelmingly negative readings can be just as detrimental, no matter how well-meaning the intentions of the person giving the reading. That aspect aside, my broader point is that Todd isn't the only one who supplies negative answers in his chart intepretations, why is he being singled out for it? Especially when he does in fact list positives too? If someone can point out to me several posts and establish a pattern to show that Todd says nothing but negative things, I'll stand corrected, but right now I really just can't agree, it wouldn't be fair or accurate. This is starting to feel less like objective criticism of someone's astrology and more like an established group picking on the newcomer (Todd). If he's actually not doing anything against Terms of Service, I don't understand the scolding." I wasn't speaking about Todd in particular, but about your idea that positive astrology is sugar coating and negative astrology is realism. And I don't want to discuss Todd or to single anyone. I had my own controversies with Todd, but I'm not gonna discuss this like an old lady gossiping on the porch, as you seem to want. You can find them on the forum. Speaking of a third person here, in their absence, is discouraged on LL, it sounds like cheap gossip. And disrespectful. And so is your comparison between two or more astrologers. No one needs your "evaluation", the way you present it.
And refrain from calling me names or any adjectives, with such ease, in the future. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6663 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 08:16 PM
I'm really confused now. Are you replying to me, Lee, or someone else? Todd has been overly negative as well as directly rude to me. He's lightened up in recent months -- which is nice to see. But awhile back? Ugh. And maybe it's taken being sick for ... more than a week now. Because I'm hardly in any candy-coating kind of mood myself. I just like to see niceness. Positivity. I don't mean in readings -- but a balance is nice there, too. But encouragement. Gratitude. We've all got our specialities. I see nothing wrong with flaunting them and continuing to make this forum the diverse and powerful resource it is. But I'm just not championing myopia or rudeness. Not to me, or to anybody. That's it. And when I see members posting in response to a member's reading that was overly negative and attributing motivations and beliefs to neutral stimuli, I can't help but say not to take it so seriously. We've all got our biases. Especially when that person has singled me out. So I've offered Todd the opportunity to bury the hatchet right here. Right now. And to let it friggin' go. IP: Logged |
Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6663 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 08:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by LeeLoo2014: This is starting to feel less like objective criticism of someone's astrology and more like an established group picking on the newcomer (Todd). And refrain from calling me names or any adjectives, with such ease, in the future.
Now I am really confused. Todd isn't new. Most of the negativity (with which I first took issue) was a year ago. Secondly, he's lately been very rude to me. And I've called you names? Adjectives? I ... don't recall that. Like I said, I'm confused. It's probably me, and the fact that I'm too debilitated right now. So I'm bowing out. IP: Logged |
Faith Knowflake Posts: 20055 From: Bella's Hair Salon Registered: Jul 2011
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posted December 07, 2015 08:29 PM
This thread: Today's transits: Mars 14 Libra Pluto 14 Cap Uranus 16 Aries
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Aubyanne Moderator Posts: 6663 From: Tinseltown, Hollyweird, The Multiverse Registered: Sep 2014
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posted December 07, 2015 08:31 PM
Ahhh. Thanks, Faith. That explains a lot. My SUN's involved on the MARS side of that nasty T-Square. No wonder it's been so beaten up since about mid October. IP: Logged |
ChildofVenus Knowflake Posts: 1246 From: Customer Service Rep. Registered: Apr 2015
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posted December 07, 2015 08:36 PM
I don't expect anyone to tell me it will be all great between us. I know that's not how life goes. I was just stating that the Pluto/Ascendant aspects aren't correct without both accurate birth times. quote: Originally posted by todd: You said that there was a Pluto/Ascendant conjunction in the composite. the activating factor was the square of mercury to pluto, which would not change if the exact time was not known. as I said you have put this chart of 3 times and gotten several responses but you still seem to looking for someone to tell you it will be all nice and good between you and him. i'm sure that there are several astrologer here who love to sugar coat their response. why don't you ask one of them. todd
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