posted March 16, 2016 08:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Spongebob:
I love all the answers about opposing vertex when she asked about them CONJUNCT. Lol

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posted March 16, 2016 08:58 PM            

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Originally posted by RoseLily:
My thoughts exactly! x). I do thank you for taking the time to answer, but my vertex is indeed conjunct my friend's

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posted March 16, 2016 09:38 PM            

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Originally posted by Spongebob:
Somebody will come along and answer the question eventually.

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Let's just keep bumping like this!! It,s bound to attract people, right?

Dancing: I find what you say very interesting, but while there was definitely a first look recognition, the attraction didn't come in much later and our relationships is moving EXTREMELY slowly We've known each other for five years, I'm fairly confident we both have feelings for each other since the start, but nothing other than a very strong friendship ever resulted out of this until now where I think it's slowly changing again toward something at least akin to a future physical relationship and maybe even possibility of us being together, but then again, he's currently in a relationship (albeit not very satisfied). And I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't come to that.

There's no obsession, just the feeling that we are on the exact same wavelength and that the relationship we have is extremely important in our life. The attraction is definitely there, but a couple of aspects (Juno/Neptune, Venus/Sun, Venus/Mars, Lilith/Juno, AC/AC, Moon/Venus) surely add to this.

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
I'd rather have close answers than nothing at all...

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I don't want to sound ungrateful, I'm very thankful to simply have answers, but while they are similar there are very distinctive elements of both the conjunction and opposition where it's just not possible to take the explanation of one and attribute it to the other.
Where conjunction is seeking individuality, opposition is looking for harmony and balance.
The shift in energy is distinctive and the relationship between the two planets/bodies involved will be changed based on if they are opposed or conjunct.
And those two being very strong and potent aspects, it's not like the trine and sextile, where one can almost pass as the lesser of the other... They are close answers, I am very thankful for them to have answered and been interested enough to reply, but there are indeed elements important enough that separate conjunction and opposition that just cannot make me satisfy with the example of an opposition.

I was about to make a very very long text about how vertex seems lost in everything that is happening, which makes me hard to focus sorely on its energy, but it took so much line I just decided to post the chart U.U

posted March 16, 2016 10:00 PM            

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Originally posted by venus2tinkerbell:
I'd rather have close answers than nothing at all...

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posted March 16, 2016 10:54 PM            

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Originally posted by Spongebob:
I love all the answers about opposing vertex when she asked about them CONJUNCT. Lol

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posted March 17, 2016 12:17 AM            

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Originally posted by Selenite:
Aw. It's definitely similar!
An *opposition of Vertexes is Vertex conjunct Anti-Vertex. I'm not asserting that the same meanings should be attributed to the Vertex-Vertex conjunction, but if you understand the general function of a conjunction, it would not be such a great leap to apply that understanding to what I said about the opposition. Anyway, good luck.

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posted March 17, 2016 12:18 AM            

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Originally posted by Spongebob:

Not really, stuff opposing each other works totally different than if they were connected to each other (conjunction). I'll wait for someine else to come in with interpretations.

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posted March 17, 2016 01:59 AM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:

Ok, here it is http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000026.html

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I did a quick skim and saw a bunch of posts roughly five years long, apiece. The idea of reading all that has me wanting to stab myslef in the eye with a fork.

posted March 17, 2016 02:42 AM            

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Originally posted by Spongebob:
I did a quick skim and saw a bunch of posts roughly five years long, apiece. The idea of reading all that has me wanting to stab myslef in the eye with a fork.

I didnt see a part in there about the conjunction either LMAO

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Learning is exhausting indeed, I agree
But, since I have read it and other threads multiple times, allow me to quote some sentences that I'll find, you are not supposed to agree if you don't want of course lol, but all the research about vertex that I have encountered refers to the same thing that I described above.
Oppositions to the vertex axis DO NOT act like oppositions to planets. The vertex is an axis, not a point, so either one of them (vertex-antivx) functions pretty much the same.
Ok, now I'll try to find the key phrases in the thread and another article that I just found and I'll get back to you in 5 minutes!

ETA : This article http://junojuno2.tripod.com/ppts.htm explains very well all "personal sensitive points" in general, along with the vertex. Here it says "That is, they are
NOT one location in the horoscope, but they lie across a chart axis as a
PAIR of points. It is important to think of them as a paired set of points."

And here http://astrolog.offline.ee/astrolog/texts/psp.txt
"Note that when one side of the PSPs is referred to the other side is also
automatically included, whether specifically mentioned or not in the
reference."

from the previous link that I mentioned http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000026.html

"Many astrologers are now finally giving the Vertex Axis credit for being legitimately important as an Axis in the natal chart, like the Nodal Axis, the Asc/Dsc Axis, or the Mc/Ic Axis.

• Ascendant/Descendant axis is considered the Magnetic Axis

• the Midheaven/IC axis is considered the Gravity Axis

• the Lunar Node axis is considered the Karmic Axis

• And the Vertex Axis is considered the Electric Axis"

And here is the slight difference between vertex and anti-vx, hence opposition to Vertex = conjunction to Anti-vx and vice-versa.

"Based on what I’ve discussed above, the Vertex Axis shows where our path in life is intercepted by encounters and events that impact our preferences and taste from that point forward. Our pre-existing taste and preferences may be reinforced in some type of wish fulfillment scenario (Antivertex). Or our preferences and taste may be altered due to being introduced to something new and unexpected (Vertex). These encounters and events seem to takes us out of our ordinary everyday perspective on the world, and make us question the meaning behind them… We may wonder if fate or destiny has been at work somehow. And there’s a tendency to romanticize and idealize these encounters and events for their significance in our journey through life."

posted March 17, 2016 11:30 AM            

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Originally posted by mar1982delta:
Learning is exhausting indeed, I agree
But, since I have read it and other threads multiple times, allow me to quote some sentences that I'll find, you are not supposed to agree if you don't want of course lol, but all the research about vertex that I have encountered refers to the same thing that I described above.
Oppositions to the vertex axis DO NOT act like oppositions to planets. The vertex is an axis, not a point, so either one of them (vertex-antivx) functions pretty much the same.
Ok, now I'll try to find the key phrases in the thread and another article that I just found and I'll get back to you in 5 minutes!

ETA : This article http://junojuno2.tripod.com/ppts.htm explains very well all "personal sensitive points" in general, along with the vertex. Here it says "That is, they are
NOT one location in the horoscope, but they lie across a chart axis as a
PAIR of points. It is important to think of them as a paired set of points."

And here http://astrolog.offline.ee/astrolog/texts/psp.txt
"Note that when one side of the PSPs is referred to the other side is also
automatically included, whether specifically mentioned or not in the
reference."

from the previous link that I mentioned http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum37/HTML/000026.html

"Many astrologers are now finally giving the Vertex Axis credit for being legitimately important as an Axis in the natal chart, like the Nodal Axis, the Asc/Dsc Axis, or the Mc/Ic Axis.

• Ascendant/Descendant axis is considered the Magnetic Axis

• the Midheaven/IC axis is considered the Gravity Axis

• the Lunar Node axis is considered the Karmic Axis

• And the Vertex Axis is considered the Electric Axis"

And here is the slight difference between vertex and anti-vx, hence opposition to Vertex = conjunction to Anti-vx and vice-versa.

"Based on what I’ve discussed above, the Vertex Axis shows where our path in life is intercepted by encounters and events that impact our preferences and taste from that point forward. Our pre-existing taste and preferences may be reinforced in some type of wish fulfillment scenario (Antivertex). Or our preferences and taste may be altered due to being introduced to something new and unexpected (Vertex). These encounters and events seem to takes us out of our ordinary everyday perspective on the world, and make us question the meaning behind them… We may wonder if fate or destiny has been at work somehow. And there’s a tendency to romanticize and idealize these encounters and events for their significance in our journey through life."

Hope that helped! There are a loot more in the thread, as well as in other threads of Lotis for the sunject, probably I forgot other important parts, but I think you got the idea!

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It still didnt help really, there was no "two vertex conjunct means this..." I didtn get anything i could use or learn anything concrete from it.

By the way, imply what you like about my intelligence but i dont extend it uselessly on stuff that doesnt really matter or count for a grade in one of my classes. Call that lazy if you want, i call it conserving energy, and you went doing my work for me (i suspected you might), so how stupid does that make ME, really?

posted March 17, 2016 11:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Spongebob:

It still didnt help really, there was no "two vertex conjunct means this..." I didtn get anything i could use or learn anything concrete from it.

By the way, imply what you like about my intelligence but i dont extend it uselessly on stuff that doesnt really matter or count for a grade in one of my classes. Call that lazy if you want, i call it conserving energy, and you went doing my work for me (i suspected you might), so how stupid does that make ME, really?

Have a good one.

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You totally got it wrong, lol, I really think learning astrology is difficult, that's why I even started a thread asking how one should proceed in order to learn astrology properly step-by-step. It's in the astrology 2.0 forum, so I didn't mean anything bad and I indeed did your work for you (regarding the difference -if any-between conjunction and opposition regarding the vertex, since THAT was the problem after all, not what the whole concept of vertex conjunct vertex means, there is a lot that I didn't mention, which I already admitted in my previous post), so this might be an indicator of my good intentions, don't you think?
No matter what do you believe for my intentions, which of course I cannot prove to you in any way, I am not a victim here lol, so a thank you because I bothered searching 3 posts and telling you about the vx-antivx thing in the first place would be really nice. I think this rule still applies in LL. There are a lot of people here who are actually polite and say thank you whenever someone even tries to help them.
So have a good one, too! I am not going to engage in some sort of fight here!

ETA : These posts of yours show that you insisted specifically about the difference that supposedly exists between Vertex and Antivertex and that's the answer I tried to give you in the first place with all of my posts. I never implied that I know what Vx conj. Vx means, I provided some links to find it for yourself, if it's there and I only talked about what I knew, this is conjunction vs. opposition to the Vx in general, since all the previous posters shared their personal experience with the opposition to Vx, hence conjunction to Anti-vx. You repeatedly expressed your doubt that conjunction and opposition to the vx is similar and I tried to answer to that doubt. That's all.

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Originally posted by Spongebob:
I love all the answers about opposing vertex when she asked about them CONJUNCT. Lol

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Originally posted by Spongebob:
I dont consider squares and conjunctions to be similar, because they really aren't. In that light, its like getting no answer.

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Originally posted by Spongebob:

Not really, stuff opposing each other works totally different than if they were connected to each other (conjunction). I'll wait for someine else to come in with interpretations.

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