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Topic: Hard Moon Aspect, or No Moon Aspect?
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margym0o
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posted January 18, 2016 11:00 AM
  
In synastry, would you rather have a hard moon aspect (ie. Moon opp. Moon) or no aspect at all?Is no aspect easier/better? Or is some connection better than no connection? EDIT to add: To clarify, I mean no MOON-MOON aspect, not an unaspected moon in synastry  IP: Logged |
thegrinning_cat
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posted January 18, 2016 11:10 AM
Definetly some connection!
Unaspected planets, especially the Moon, are a really bad sign.
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margym0o
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posted January 18, 2016 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by thegrinning_cat:
Definetly some connection!
Unaspected planets, especially the Moon, are a really bad sign.
Oppositions in relationships are tense but attracting
Of course! Unaspected planets are definitely a concern. Sorry I didn't explain that properly, I meant would a hard moon aspect like moon opp. moon be better than having no moon-moon aspect at all IP: Logged |
YellowGerbera
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posted January 18, 2016 03:10 PM
I'd like to know this too!With my bf, we don't have Moon-Moon aspect but we have Moon-Saturn DW. IP: Logged |
Bluejay
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posted January 19, 2016 08:28 AM
I would rather have some connection, even if it's challenging. My ex and I had opposite Moons, mine in Libra and his in Aries. Pluto was also involved by conjunction and opposition. It worked for us, but it was difficult at times. I have heard though that the Aries/Libra opposition seems to work better than others because of the Mars/Venus polarity. It's a yin-yang pairing. It probably helped that I'm the feminine Moon ruled by Venus and he's the masculine Moon ruled by Mars. I think an opposition between a Cancer Moon in domicile and a Capricorn Moon in detriment would be extremely challenging. In general Cancer Moons are too emotional for the stoic Capricorn Moons. Unless other softer bonding aspects existed, I think these two would have a lot of trouble relating to the other's emotional natures. I think the sign and house placements should be considered, because not all oppositions play out in the same way. IP: Logged |
comdoc
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posted January 19, 2016 10:09 AM
Hard aspects over no aspects. My VOC Gemini Moon resonates OK with late Sagi Moon (my Mother has it). But it prefers late Libra Moon (oppose my Aries Sun and conj my POF). My beloved first wife has it. And Leo Moon conj my Mars/ASC trine my Sun trine my 5H Jupiter. Former fiance has that. IP: Logged |
fiola
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posted January 19, 2016 03:41 PM
In my experiance, better not have any moon/moon aspect than a square. I had it with an ex and it was a complete disaster. But i seem to do okay with the opposition since it would conjunct my ascendant.IP: Logged |
Lotis White
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posted January 19, 2016 04:21 PM
Moon/Moon aspects are not essential for a synastry to work, and many couples don't have them.Moon/Sun, Moon/Venus, Moon/Mars, Moon/Jupiter, and even Moon/Saturn, can work fine in synastry. As long as SOMETHING significant in one person's chart is aspecting the other person's Moon there is a valid connection there. Moon/Moon aspects are good, but not the only way to connect with someone else's Moon. Other planets aspecting the Moon can do the trick. I think Moon/Moon oppositions can work well in some cases because they're complimentary, but that the Moon/Moon square might be hard to handle. Moon/Moon conjunctions and soft aspects are pretty awesome. If I couldn't have one of those I'd pick Moon/other significant planet in my chart. IP: Logged |
thingsgoneby
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posted October 07, 2016 09:03 PM
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Originally posted by Lotis White:
Moon/Moon aspects are not essential for a synastry to work, and many couples don't have them.Moon/Sun, Moon/Venus, Moon/Mars, Moon/Jupiter, and even Moon/Saturn, can work fine in synastry. As long as SOMETHING significant in one person's chart is aspecting the other person's Moon there is a valid connection there. Moon/Moon aspects are good, but not the only way to connect with someone else's Moon. Other planets aspecting the Moon can do the trick. I think Moon/Moon oppositions can work well in some cases because they're complimentary, but that the Moon/Moon square might be hard to handle. Moon/Moon conjunctions and soft aspects are pretty awesome. If I couldn't have one of those I'd pick Moon/other significant planet in my chart.
What would you say about the Venus/Moon square in synastry?
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yungang_grotto
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posted October 07, 2016 09:36 PM
My Moon is square my partner's Moon by 8 degrees. It's tough, but because his draconic Moon is conjunct my natal Moon by 4.5 degrees, it could definitely be worse!For us, it's like this (personal planets only): His... Mine Sun quincunx Sun exact
Sun biseptile Moon very tight
Moon square Moon wide
Moon trine Mercury tight
Moon conjunct Mars 1 degree
Mars trine Moon 3 degrees
Mercury opposite Mercury
Venus Opposite Sun 6 degrees
Sun Opposite Venus 4 degrees And for the only non-double whammy, apart from Sun biseptile Moon (if you consider same planet aspects double whammies, which I kind of do) between personal planets, it's my Mars sextile his Venus. Because it's my Mars conjunct his Aries Moon, and his Moon is obviously ruled by Mars, I think it works out ok. We have to look at the whole picture. Also my Capricorn Moon trine his Taurus Mars (his Moon ruler) and as I said, conjunct his Draco Moon... and my Saturn is square his Moon which altogether is a lot of Capricorn energy for his Aries!!! Again... it would be too much if it weren't for his draconic Capricorn Sun and Moon!!! Capricorn is in his 8th house natally, and his Saturn is in Scorpio conjunct my ascendant, so the themes of sex and merging are pretty darn Capricornish for him anyway. It's a lot for him though :/ So anyway the way I see it, it's better for us to have something than nothing, just for the sheer novelty of the pretty aspect list between luminaries. lol... But it's a wide square so I'm not too proud of it or anything  IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted October 07, 2016 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by margym0o:
In synastry, would you rather have a hard moon aspect (ie. Moon opp. Moon) or no aspect at all?Is no aspect easier/better? Or is some connection better than no connection? EDIT to add: To clarify, I mean no MOON-MOON aspect, not an unaspected moon in synastry
Hard, for sure, but I would not be really close as in a one and only with a hard moon aspect.
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HelixID
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posted October 08, 2016 12:21 AM
My boyfriend and I have the inconjunct, exact. He has a Sag Moon and I have Taurus Moon. But my Moon is in a tight square with Jupiter (mirrors his Sag Moon) and his is square Venus (mirrors my Taurus Moon). The most frequent aspect I have seen so far is the square though.
The square is probably a nice electric energy and good to have in romantic relationships. IP: Logged |
Faith
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posted October 08, 2016 10:08 AM
It doesn't seem to matter either way, in my case.Maybe I just never dated enough to form an educated opinion, plus I don't have everyone's birth time. edit IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted October 08, 2016 09:33 PM
I think I'll vote for 'no aspect'. No aspect - no frustration living together.IP: Logged |
incognito
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posted October 09, 2016 03:01 AM
I was just thinking about this. Someone is interested in dating me...but there are no aspects to my moon in our synastry.
I would vote for no hard moon aspects over some. Why? Because my moon square pluto makes my emotions haywire already so even if there were no moon aspects, I would still be able to care about that person way more than they could ever care about me. If the other persons moon is aspected by my planets and mine is not, then at least that levels the playing field somewhat. And yes, what Capricorn said- no stress is better than stress IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 09, 2016 05:33 AM
There does not have to be a Moon-Moon-aspect; however there should be *some* resonance in terms of lunar aspects, even if the Moons are just in compatible elements or aspecting the same planet natally, something like that to make for an emotional resonance. Also most of the time it makes for a closer intimate connection if both Moons are aspected by the other one`s chart, but it depends on the aspectual condition of the natal Moon (a natal Moon with only squares in the natal, might have a hard time with another one`s planet conjunct their Moon and prefer different aspects). The aspect do not have to be Moon-Moon of course.
As for the Moon-Moon-square, well it worked for Paul Mc Cartney and his first wife - but honestly I have seen it not that frequently. I see more often in working relationships that the Moons are in compatible elements, and if not, then there usually is a strong interlink of Moon to each other`s Sun or ASC.
BTW I donīt agree with the no stress is better than stress. That`s not true for all people. Sometimes stress is what motivates people to grow and some people like to grow and develop understanding in very different ways of emotional processing. Of course it would NOT be comfortable, that`s for sure.
But sometimes when things are too comfortable, they get stagnant and to me at least utterly boring.
That is my individual feeling about this and certainly has a lot to do with my natal chart. Edit
"Stress" in terms of squaring Moon-signs means a very different way of emotional processing and having to adjust one`s own perspective.
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CapriciousCapricorn
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posted October 09, 2016 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
BTW I donīt agree with the no stress is better than stress. That`s not true for all people. Sometimes stress is what motivates people to grow and some people like to grow and develop understanding in very different ways of emotional processing. Of course it would NOT be comfortable, that`s for sure.
But sometimes when things are too comfortable, they get stagnant and to me at least utterly boring.
If you already have other 'interesting' aspects in your synastry then why would you want a Moon/Moon square? Of course if overall synastry is, as you say way too comfortable and relationship is getting stagnant then maybe Moon/Moon square will liven things up, maybe..but I would still rather not have it. Our Moon is just too sensitive a planet for others to square it. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 09, 2016 01:39 PM
Mine isn`t apparently. Too sensitive I mean, though basically I`d agree with you. But like always, there no one shoe-size that fits all. (though GENERALLY and THEORETICALLY speaking, Moon is one of the planets that can least deal with conflicting elements. Still my Aqua Moon still likes those Taurus-Moons and occasionally Scorpio-Moons, though usually it is Venus or Mars on the Taurus-Scorpio-axis. But there is a reason for this; first of Uranian Moon with dispositor in scorpio of course. Secondly my MOon is quinkunx Saturn exactly and semisextile Juno exact, which of course means, if there is a square to the Scorpio-Moon this said Scorpio Moon will make a Grand trine with my Saturn-Juno, and if it is in Taurus, this Taurus-Moon will make a minor triangle with Saturn-Juno, and that`s pretty nice). IP: Logged |
CapriciousCapricorn
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posted October 09, 2016 07:27 PM
Yep. What we prefer in synastry, it all comes down to our own natal chart make up. The worst thing in my chart, for example is Saturn squaring my Moon, Mars and Venus. All three. I once had a co-worker who had her Sun Saturn conjunction right on my Saturn so they of course squared my Moon, Venus and Mars. I had to cut her out of my life, that's how much I did not want to be around her. So there's a weak spot in the chart for most people - Achilles heel (in my case Saturn squares - means 'do not put your planet there, on my Saturn'). Find it, and you will know immediately from synastry who will rub you the wrong way and who will make you love them.So somebody's Moon square my Moon will square also my Venus and Mars and might conjunct or be opposite my Saturn too..Oh..No, not pretty. IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted October 09, 2016 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
There does not have to be a Moon-Moon-aspect; however there should be *some* resonance in terms of lunar aspects, even if the Moons are just in compatible elements or aspecting the same planet natally, something like that to make for an emotional resonance. Also most of the time it makes for a closer intimate connection if both Moons are aspected by the other one`s chart, but it depends on the aspectual condition of the natal Moon (a natal Moon with only squares in the natal, might have a hard time with another one`s planet conjunct their Moon and prefer different aspects). The aspect do not have to be Moon-Moon of course.
As for the Moon-Moon-square, well it worked for Paul Mc Cartney and his first wife - but honestly I have seen it not that frequently. I see more often in working relationships that the Moons are in compatible elements, and if not, then there usually is a strong interlink of Moon to each other`s Sun or ASC.
BTW I donīt agree with the no stress is better than stress. That`s not true for all people. Sometimes stress is what motivates people to grow and some people like to grow and develop understanding in very different ways of emotional processing. Of course it would NOT be comfortable, that`s for sure.
But sometimes when things are too comfortable, they get stagnant and to me at least utterly boring.
That is my individual feeling about this and certainly has a lot to do with my natal chart. Edit
"Stress" in terms of squaring Moon-signs means a very different way of emotional processing and having to adjust one`s own perspective.
 You said it! IP: Logged |
yungang_grotto
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posted October 09, 2016 09:07 PM
We have Moon conjunct Neptune and Moon square Neptune respectively, natally... and my Moon is in my 3rd, which resonates with his Gemini ascendant... His moon in his 11th resonates with my Aquarius IC... I do worry about my Saturn square his Moon and my Mars conjunct it... or I have. Luckily his Moon is sextile the final dispositor of basically his whole chart, Venus... and that's conjunct my Jupiter which also is sextile his Moon... So it's all alright in the end I agree if he only had squares to his Moon it would be a bit much... maybe it almost it but not quite! IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 10, 2016 04:42 AM
CC, absolutely right, yes. I wouldn`t want any squares to that Moon either. My chart seems pretty square-friendly though, which is probably why I can handle those, or even seek them or find them fulfilling. Heck I even welcome Saturn square or opposite my Sun or Moon. IP: Logged |
girlwiththerainysoul
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posted October 10, 2016 08:50 AM
Hard aspects create attraction (especially in the initial phases) but in the long run, maybe no aspect existing is easier to deal with.but if someone's moon squares yours for instance and their sun trines your moon, it can be nice, giving other supportive aspects exist as well. IP: Logged |
Yanmorg
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posted October 14, 2016 06:37 AM
What if someone matches their partner's moon sign traits symbolically by house, but square by aspect wouldn't that help?For example, moon in virgo square moon in libra but moon in libra is located in the 6th Natally, the natural ruler of Virgo. IP: Logged |
Ceridwen
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posted October 14, 2016 07:14 AM
Interestingly I seem to have a strong emotional resonance with Aries-Moons, and with late Libra Moons (my Moon is in Aqua), but he Moons I feel MOST comfortable with is actually the Sag-Moon (my brother has also one, and we are just peas in a pod so to speak. His Moon is conjunct Jupiter and Uranus and falling onto my ASC, so that might enhance it). But even with P, who has a Sag-Moon as well, no matter what`s going on or not going on, there is this underlying emotional resonance despite our Moons not being in aspect.
His Moon is strongly aspected in our synastry, while mine not so much. I still feel that resonance.
I do like Taurus-Moons and Scorpio Moons as well, but I admit that it might have to do with my dispositor being in Scorpio, Moon cp Pluto and in 2nd house as well.
The other Moon-sign that I come across often is Pisces, and I get along with them greatly, though the Pisces Moons (and Cancer Moons) in my life usually belong to female friends. IP: Logged |
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