posted March 26, 2017 10:30 PM            

Here is our synastry chart

And below are our synastry aspects (his planets on the left and mine on the right)

My natal chart link: http://tinypic.com/r/fz6pdt/9

posted March 27, 2017 07:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Randall:
Bump!

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posted April 08, 2017 11:29 AM            

I'll start with addressing my natals chart's problems.. then his and then the synastry..
I met this guy online some years ago..
Unfortunately I had too many problems (and I still am) all these years so I wasn't able to go on a date with him..
I can not forget about him though.. the weird thing is he can not forget about me too.
He thinks more than I do that it is fate for us to be together (to be honest there were too many coincidences that "brought" us in touch)
What I am asking is if this relationship could be a longlasting one or not.. Is it worth it trying to go on a date with him? (when I'll be able to) or I'll end up heartbroken?

I consider my natal chart quite problematic generally but I'll focus on aspects related to love/intimacy

• Uranus opposition Sun, Uranus conjuct 7th H cusp:

- I need my space so if it was to live under the same roof with someone else I would need us to sleep in separate rooms..
- I don't like being too close with someone (physically)
- When I like someone I can chat with him 24/7 but phone/video calls make me suffocate..
- After dating with someone I like too much I feel like I'll be able to date him again if some days or even better a 2-week period has passed since our previous date..

It is not because I feel quickly bored though..
On the contrary it's because it feels like an overdose and I need time because otherwise I feel like I'll die because of my emotions' intensity..

• South Node in 1st House
- Intensifies everything said above x10..
North Node in 7th H makes me feel so awkward, (platonic relationships are the only kind of relationship I had till now)

• Pluto in 5th H square Venus and Mars
- Very intense emotions to the point of suffering instead of feeling happy when I am in love..
Also I am too suspicious and jealous

• Capricorn 7th H cusp..
Relationships feel like a burden because they do need a lot of work.. especially for someone like me..

• Aqua Saturn (ruler of 7th H) in 8th H
- Intensifies both aspects mentioned above..
Too suspicious and dislike being too close with someone (physically)

• Moon in Pisces (Chart Ruler) ruled by Neptune in 7th H (conjunct 7th H cusp)
- Fortunately I don't like weak/problematic people that need to be "saved".. I also do not tend to see others through rose colored glasses.. But till 21 years old I idealised relationships per se.. I thought that if 2 people fell in love with each other it would be enough to live happy together.. Like everything would magically work because of love..
This aspect supports so well all the ones mentioned above.. because it makes me feel happy and satisfied being in a platonic relationship ..

• Moon itself being in 9th H
-Easily bored without spiritual stimulation..

I think there is nothing good about my chart especially when it comes to love/intimacy..
Do you see anything else I am maybe missing about it?

Now to his natal chart..

• Moon in Leo square Mars in Scorpio..
I've read so much about it
It is true that he speaks quicker than he thinks when he is angry/defensive.. Unfortunately I do not have any info about his parents' behavior..
But to be quite honest he doesn't seem like a person that can not control his emotions and actions..
This aspect worries me about promiscuity

• Venus in Capricorn conjunct Saturn
Again I am worried about promiscuity..
I've read about this that the person does not feel worthy of love.. He may choose safety over love..
Find validation through sex..

• Venus conjuct Neptune
Guess what I am worried about again... Tadaaa...!
Promiscuity again of course!
I've read that people with this aspect tend to fall in love with more than one person at the same time..

* I personally feel that Saturn is the opposite of Neptune and not Moon..
So Venus being in conjunction with both of these may be a good thing in the end..
Because Neptune softens harsh realistic Saturn and Saturn helps Neptune by not letting it get lost in its fantasy world more than it should..

• Moon square Mars, Aqua ASC
and Venus, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune all in 11th H which is ruled by Aqua..
Well all these aspect make him too aquarious I think.. So he needs freedom which leaves me wandering if he is even able to have a stable longlasting relationship..

So I see that we both are idealistic people and value our freedom..

Now onto our Synastry chart..

• His Moon is opposed by my Saturn (0 orbs)
This maybe the reason he told me that he feels rejected by me.. I suspect that this is the reason that he doesn't show that Moon square Mars to me.. Maybe my Saturn blocks him..

• My Saturn square his Mars (4-5 orbs)
I think this is mentioned multiple times as one of the worst possible aspects to have in synastry.. I don't know if the orbs are considered tight or not for this one..

• Moon inconjuction Moon.. (0 orbs)
I do not like this aspect but I can not understand if it's too serious or not..

• His Venus conjunct Uranus (0 orbs)
We met through internet and although this aspect often means love at first sight.. it ends as suddenly as it begins.. So it is definately not a plus for stability..

• My natal Sun opposite his N. Neptune..
Ok this is an aspect I have natally but makes me wander about him idealizing me and then being dissapointed.. or even worse him deceiving me..

• His natal Saturn opposite both my ASC and Sun..
I can not understand how this may play out but I do not like it because both my natal Sun and ASC are natally opposed by Uranus.. So his Saturn opposing them sounds really bad.. But I do not know in what way could this affect me

• His Sun square my Moon
Although both in water signs they form a suqare..

• His ASC in my 8th H
I could find nothing about it I just mention it in the negative ones because someone once tole me that he would run away from someone whose ASC falls in her 8th H.. Sadly I didn't get her to explain why she considered thisbsuch a bad placement..

*** I am wandering if these Uranus-Neptune aspects are actually good for us because of our Uranus/Aqua and Neptune influenced natal charts..

Some aspects I consider to be positive:

• Sun (me) conjuct Jupiter (him) 0 orbs
I do kot know why it isbconsidered this good though

• Both our Suns in aspwct with our Venus..

• His Mars trine my Moon

• His South Node conjuct my Mars

• His North Node conjuct my Venus

• My Venus, Mars and Jupiter conjunct/in his 7th H

• Both activating each other's 5th H

• Most of our Mercuries' aspects

posted April 09, 2017 05:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
Sun-Jupiter is one of my favourite aspects. It's probably why you can't forget each other. You've made a good analysis of your own synastry. Doesn't seem very stable, but I would check your composite chart as well.

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Thanks for replying
I din't really understand The Jupiter-Sun conjunction it doesn't seem a romantic/sexual aspect.
How do you understand if it will be unstable/stable/longlasting or not?
Although I get the meaning of each aspect I can not see how the aspects will work as a whole. That is why I post the synastry here.
For example I know the Uranus aspect we have even if it is intense and beautiful I would prefer it didn't exist because it ends up as soon and suddenly as it started.. But there are 5/6 Saturn aspects in the synastry..which I do not really like because Saturn is heavy but at least it provides stability.. So what is going to happen?
Here is the composite

posted April 11, 2017 02:44 AM            

I really like the jupiter conjunction sun exact though, I think this is a great and very bonding aspect

posted April 11, 2017 04:42 AM            

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Originally posted by next to neptune:
Not to disappoint you, but having both saturn opposite moon/sun and square mars sounds a but rough... not because you wont have a great time with laughter when so many planets is in the 5th house, but on the long run it can turn annoying... and at that point you would need a great deal of jupiter touching personal planets, and venus touching at least sun/moon in a nice way... which it doesn't seems like?

I really like the jupiter conjunction sun exact though, I think this is a great and very bonding aspect

And the composite seems absolutely perfect, nothing to put a finger on there!

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posted April 11, 2017 06:43 PM            

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Originally posted by Beautiful_Light:
You had pointed out your Venus-Uranus/Neptune, Moon sq Mars, Mars sq Saturn, Moon inconjunct Moon aspects...these are not generally stable aspects, but your composite chart is actually pretty good. If you form a relationship it can be long-lasting. It would be good if Venus and Sun were closer in the composite, but Venus sq Jupiter and Venus sextile Uranus should be positive. Yes you are right; Saturn gives stability. Jupiter-Sun, while not romantic in and of itself, provides excellent rapport, joy and friendship. This is something any relationship can benefit from, romantic or not.

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posted April 12, 2017 07:05 PM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
What would you do if you were in my shoes..
Does it worth it to give it a try (according to the synastry) or not? I mean every synastry has some negative and positive aspects.. but in this case I do not know if the negative ones are too many or if it is too hard to overcome them..
If we can succesfully "pass" the synastry difficulties we will achive our composite chart's beautiful phase..? or does the composite show just how others see our relationship?

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posted April 13, 2017 04:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Plut0nian2:
Thank you

I read about Chiron aspects in synastry somewhere in this forum.
His chiron conjuncts my ASC (0-1 orbs) and my Sun (5-6 orbs) also opposes Uranus and Neptune..
Is this that bad? I mean am I definately going to end up hurt?
Any opinions about it?

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posted April 15, 2017 05:53 PM            

I have wanted to respond with an evaluation of this synastry, but given the personal sensitivities and difficulties you described above, it would seem that some significant personal healing and empowerment really hold the key to you successfully partnering with someone else. I'm not saying it cannot be done with the person in question, but it seems that the profound sensitivities you describe could be an understandable hindrance in any relationship. Don't you think finding a way to moderate or even heal those would go further towards the chances of being in a lasting relationship with any peson?

I'll get into the synastry now.

First, too many aspects are listed on the table you so nicely posted for us. Many of those aspects are well out of orb for a synastry. My practice is to look at what is within 5° of exact, a bit more for luminaries. Other's planet positions are essentially transits to your natal points or vice versa. So we don't need to include aspects with orbs as wide as might be included in many natal charts.

I count up (major aspects of planets, nodes only) 21 positive/supporting aspects to 26 negative/challenging ones. A mixed picture leaning negative that might be improved depending on the exact degree of your Ascendants (not counted here because of my experience in seeing how often natal Ascendants need to be adjusted to be accurate).

Certainly the Jupiter-related aspects with Sun, Moon are very helpful, and you have an exact sextile between your Pluto and his Neptune (orb=0°00'). There are other good lunar aspects.

As to more specific synastry that would depend on more certain accurate natal charts, starting with yours. I am very doubtful about the accuracy of your Asc degree, given that the square pictured to Pluto is an aspect of power, not the profound sensitivity you describe. No aspect that chart's Asc shows accounts for this, particularly since 17AQU42 equates to 15S32 declination, which would put it parallel Mars. Almost certainly not an accurate natal figure given how you have described yourself. That natal figure describes an energetic, strong-willed person with a strong libido, capable of taking on anything.

Synastries are best done when the natal chart is accurate enough to lay out the horizon of at least one of two charts for an accurate list of Asc-related inter-aspects.

posted April 15, 2017 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Kannon McAfee:
Plut0nian2,

I have wanted to respond with an evaluation of this synastry, but given the personal sensitivities and difficulties you described above, it would seem that some significant personal healing and empowerment really hold the key to you successfully partnering with someone else. I'm not saying it cannot be done with the person in question, but it seems that the profound sensitivities you describe could be an understandable hindrance in any relationship. Don't you think finding a way to moderate or even heal those would go further towards the chances of being in a lasting relationship with any peson?

I'll get into the synastry now.

First, too many aspects are listed on the table you so nicely posted for us. Many of those aspects are well out of orb for a synastry. My practice is to look at what is within 5° of exact, a bit more for luminaries. Other's planet positions are essentially transits to your natal points or vice versa. So we don't need to include aspects with orbs as wide as might be included in many natal charts.

I count up (major aspects of planets, nodes only) 21 positive/supporting aspects to 26 negative/challenging ones. A mixed picture leaning negative that might be improved depending on the exact degree of your Ascendants (not counted here because of my experience in seeing how often natal Ascendants need to be adjusted to be accurate).

Certainly the Jupiter-related aspects with Sun, Moon are very helpful, and you have an exact sextile between your Pluto and his Neptune (orb=0°00'). There are other good lunar aspects.

As to more specific synastry that would depend on more certain accurate natal charts, starting with yours. I am very doubtful about the accuracy of your Asc degree, given that the square pictured to Pluto is an aspect of power, not the profound sensitivity you describe. No aspect that chart's Asc shows accounts for this, particularly since 17AQU42 equates to 15S32 declination, which would put it parallel Mars. Almost certainly not an accurate natal figure given how you have described yourself. That natal figure describes an energetic, strong-willed person with a strong libido, capable of taking on anything.

Synastries are best done when the natal chart is accurate enough to lay out the horizon of at least one of two charts for an accurate list of Asc-related inter-aspects.

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Hello
Thank you for replying
You are correct.. I think I can handle at this point most of my personal difficulties.. but I may be wrong.. I guess will be able to find out only when I'll be in a relationship though.. (If I'll ever be in one)
That is when those difficulties of mine will be challenged for real.

To be honest I thought negative aspects were were way more than the positive ones.. Although I would of course prefer them to be way more less..

My birthtime may be +/-4 minutes, which I know it makes a difference but not such huuuge one I guess.. His birthtime though maybe +/- 20 minutes..

I am honestly wondering what are the positive lunar aspects you are talking about.. (except from Jupiter conjunct Sun) Our moons are incompatible (inconjunction),
his Sun squares my Moon although they are both in water signs..
my Saturn opposes his Moon..
His Mercury squares my Moon
It seems really bad..

What I can not understand though is why we can not forget about each other.. What suprises me even more is I never get bored of him.. I want more and more of him..
I get bored really fast in my life generally.. but when I like something or someone I feel like I never get enough of it..
Anyway I also have romantic feelings about him and at the same time I am sexually interested in him (that happened after 3 years of texting) at the beginning those sweet/romantic emotions were so strong that sexual thoughts left me feeling hurt.. like they ruined those sweet feelings and thoughts I had with him.. Since last year I still have those warm sweet feelings for him but also want him in a sexual way at the same time.. For the first time in my life I can combine those two..

posted April 19, 2017 06:58 PM            

Plus your Venus opposite his Sun (and possibly his Asc) is a positive aspect supportive of affection and love. Your Venus is also quincunx his Jupiter, also positive. I count 'hard' aspects between benefics and luminaries/Asc as positive. That is probably why you thought there were more negatives. The strength or nature of the aspect does not alter the nature of the planets involved, only the way in which they tend to be expressed. Sometimes it is true that Venus square Jupiter for example can become too much of a good thing. Maybe you spoil or over-indulge each other a bit in some way(s). But it is better to have that than only the sober, committed attitudes (Saturn aspects, etc) that are part of making a relationship last.

For some reason it seems easier for most astrologists to see negatives more easily than positives in synastry. What matters is the overall picture.

His Venus is square your Sun. So you see, you have mutual Sun-Venus aspects, plus Jupiter-Sun. These are all good.

The Jupiter-Sun aspect is very helpful. So look for how to use that positive, the optimism, generosity with each other, as a focus for the relationship.

His Venus [14N18] is also closely parallel your S.Node [14S39]. Very good aspect indicating that there is something there from the start. We metaphysical types tend to look at this as a past life connection of pre-established love.

Yes, your Moon is opposite/contra-parallel his Saturn, and your Mars is square his Saturn. They do not overpower the other aspects between benefics.

Look for how time and incremental steps forward can form mutual understanding between you. If you both are approaching this relationship with private personal romantic agendas, looking ... hoping ... to just leap in at some point, maybe it will work and maybe it won't. But the Saturn aspects are a strong indication that time and patience (Saturn) will bring you to a meet-in-the-middle place where the agenda can be formed for a relationship mutually.

There is also a hard aspect, while technically counted as challenging, could be a long-term bolster: your Pluto square his Jupiter. That aspect can be one of deep determination soaked in optimism.

I would prefer to see a higher ratio of positives, but again, I do not know for certain both your correct Ascendants, therefore the picture is not complete in my mind. Many relationships don't have a majority of positive/supportive aspects, but do have Moon/Venus/Jupiter factors that help overcome it. My parents' synastry has a majority of negatives, but has the Moon/Venus/Asc factors to overcome it. Not saying it won't be challenging.

I suggest you approach him with your real affection and no demands. Just be honest with him about your needs and sensitivities and no expectations. Leave room for him to surprise you.