posted February 08, 2024 05:24 AM            

...or am I being impatient?

I am inside.

My AC exactly conjunct their MC
Our ACs exactly square
Their AC on my nadir, my DC on theirs
My Moon/Venus conjunct their North Node
Their Venus/Mercury square my Nodes
My Mars conjunct their moon
Jupiters exactly opposite

...but we don't aspect each other's 4th, 5th, 7th, or 8th house rulers in any significant way, and no Saturn contacts. Is this just a lesson, or meant to be more?

posted February 13, 2024 12:13 PM            

I have been trying to be more in my feminine energy and not chase so much. I wonder what vansio and others have to say?

posted February 13, 2024 02:18 PM            

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Originally posted by sashavittoria:

This person finally replied to me yesterday after not responding for two weeks… after inviting me to spend the night in Paris with them. It’s really mixed signals. But I think Librapurr is right. It’s like the karmic lessons are obviously there, but there’s nothing to bond us in 3D reality. Like all my crushes…

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Don`t waste your time that is a huge red flag. When someone likes you they wont take two weeks before they respond to you. This person is not serious about you and that is why you get the "mixed" signals. The more time you spend on a person who doesn`t feel the same the more bitter you`ll become later on. Stop looking for clues that are more satisfying for you to "see" when the clues were right in front of you all along. Learn from your past so you won`t end up in similar situations in the future.

posted February 13, 2024 02:24 PM            

Sometimes we misuse astrology to justify bad behavior…

posted February 13, 2024 02:46 PM            

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Originally posted by sashavittoria:

I would have thought my Aries placements would win over their Aries Venus,

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posted February 13, 2024 04:02 PM            

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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
Thank you Sleepy. I needed to hear/read that. I think it’s hard when there’s mixed signals + nodal stuff going on, because then it’s tempting to think it WILL work out EVENTUALLY once the person “learns their lesson”. But yeah the hot/cold and ghosting are red flags to me too. It’s just hard to understand when they’re the ones who initiated.

Sometimes we misuse astrology to justify bad behavior…

I just wonder why I am so much more drawn to “karmic lessons” type of relationships that never seem to ground in 3D reality, instead of relationships that would/could actually work out. I believe we’re here to grow, but why do I always have to grow through unrequited/one-sided things? Maybe it’s just my own lesson. I hate it.

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sashavittoria,

Forgive me, I'm half awake. Been convalescent when I surrender to rest.

I understand your last paragraph. I shook that twin but the nagging thread remains no matter how much cord cutting I've done. This "unrequited" thing for some of us women might also be a safe haven so we don't go completely vulnerable. Idk but have you ever seen Scandal? From abc? Livia, the main character has a twinflame, the president. She tells another guy "I want complicated, hard .." I'm actually paraphrasing, not certain exact wording. She tells him that she wants the toxic, obstacles etc. She wants the pain. The sorrow. I do believe many of us "do" want the lesson. In fact I'm dangling in my marriage still, knowing we are mismatched. Yet hard headed as I am, gauntlet remains in my hand, here I grip it like "there must be more to learn here". It's crazy how we humans, the heart and mind operate in these situations.
I can understand your feelings, I've felt no reciprocal love from any man because I always chose those too broken to want to meet me half way. Funny thing, w/o saying my birthday, it is the one day in Aquarius that overrides the Aquarius non warmth (detachment, traditionallyexplaby the 11th house energy), loving immensely/deeply
This has an alchemy way of bringout further love and heart within. So when I over love it's painful but I'm learning to not overgive.
I am good at detachment once hurt - enough.

posted February 13, 2024 04:21 PM            

This double Pisces is not the TF I have spoken of elsewhere - I am as over the TF as it is possible to be. Ever since I started integrating the final lessons, I no longer think of him. I’m very glad it’s over.

What is troubling about this new person is that they crushed on me first and seemed to be integrating the lessons of my Venus via creative outlets, and we even did some of that together, and they seemed so mature and wise about it. But maybe that is all they needed from me and the crush was over for them once they integrated those things. Just like my obsession with the TF was over once I finally integrated the last piece.

posted February 13, 2024 04:49 PM            

That paragraph completely defines how my tf showed up too. Though this isn't your tf we are speaking on, the energy very alike.

Iir your moon cnj my mercury. We are living similar lessons I think.

I actually understood these are different ppl. I was sharing my points of understanding as in my dynamic too, I feel like you though the comparisons aren't level.
Where he was the first to extend, show you this interest, that's possibly the rub. Like "you wanted this, how could you just flip flop like that" - as you this connection did bring lessons, your heart is your weakness, as it's open, full and caring, he isn't ready. I think in his circumstances, you shined a light on his personal triggers, thus his pulling away was easier than to pull together and work for a meaningful connection. This is really his inability to face what you may trigger within him.
I need to read more clearly, was he the fish? Or does he carry a lot of mutable energy?
Also how is saturn in his chart, his progress and how about your midpoint saturn? Pr midpoint too?

posted February 13, 2024 05:22 PM            

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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
Thank you Sleepy, that is all very true. I didn’t think of Pisces and inequality but you’re right. I feel like I have to rewire my whole way of pursuing (ie, stop pursuing altogether) and who I’m naturally attracted to. Why was I made this way if it’s not meant to work out? Sometimes I think my placements are just saying to focus on career, relationships are not for this lifetime.

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posted February 14, 2024 02:37 AM            

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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
Yea like I say, I’ve already done a lot of the inner work and I continue and will always continue to do it. I don’t need to be preached at especially about the basic points. I still want some feedback on the astrology and synastry. I haven’t experienced these DW angle conjunctions Before.

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posted February 14, 2024 03:16 AM            

So stick to the charts, Sleepy. Don’t use LL as an outlet to preach the most basic and unsolicited self-help advice.

Moon has been the only really supportive person on this forum lately and I am otherwise mostly very disappointed. I don’t learn much here anymore. I think I will take a break from LL.

posted February 14, 2024 03:26 AM            

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Originally posted by sashavittoria:
I am here primarily to learn about astrology and part of that is how it affects my experience. So I feel sharing the experience is relevant. I’m not trying to have a relationship with this person (who I’ve known for 3 years) or anyone for that matter - like I said, I already cut them off.

Moon has been the only really supportive person on this forum lately and I am otherwise mostly very disappointed. I don’t learn much here anymore. I think I will take a break from LL.

Thank you Moon good luck with everything. I will look into those other points you mentioned. Much love

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posted February 14, 2024 03:42 AM            

for productive, materially-generative relating, its preferred that moons are in an angular position (angles representing full visibility and the earth plane; what begets materializing a future here, incl. offspring) to each other. the 1,4,7,10 whole signs. use sidereal zodiac for this method if one wants to be more accurate, its a vedic method afterall.

same basic tenet applied to mutual inner planets would also be seen, but different positions such as 5/9 are more permissible for a planet like sun, rising sign, mercury, venus,etc.

before you took down the chart, i noticed the moons are in a 2/12 position

so, fundamentally, imbalanced moons, (losses for one are gains for the other. 2/12, one party feels out of reach, the other is objectified, etc), is not a easy match of reflective mentalities (the moon is “manas”), nor constructive. these planets don’t see [the fullness of] each other [thus lack of full-fillment], which you already know and experienced

there are better matches to be made, sasha 🩷

note: 5/9 (the trine) for the moons is considered difficult because these people, although good spirits of relating, cannot solve their problems together in reality (the angles). they go around in circles

posted February 14, 2024 04:38 AM            

sasha is a smart, powerful, open-minded (perhaps sometimes to a fault) woman. patronizing her living experience would not be the way to guiding the intellect, her capacity to reflect and search for truth independently, if there’s any part of you that understands the psycho-emotional complexity behind “the work” we do on ourselves and with others. (integration)

i hope sleepy that you might reconsider

i can understand you might have your own history of codependency that you have informed yourself of for the sake of liberation, enough so to superficially point out a difficult process in others, however, the issue as a mechanism hasn’t been fully released from your conscience, as it still shows up as your point of contention (projecting + jumping to conclusions)