posted May 30, 2018 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by astrosaz:
I just read this on Cosmitec. I STILL don't know an awful lot about composites and wanted to know your opinion on their opinion.
'Composite Charts are specific horoscopes that let you assess relationships in a different and quite unique way.
These specific horoscopes show how two people operate as a couple, as a team, symbolizing the central life force energy of the relationship as another personality.
Technically, composites are based on the (near) midpoints of all planets and points in both natal charts.
Some astrologers say and even claim that Composite Charts are only valid until a couple has been together for some time. This, we find quite unbelievable because there is not a single reason why these specific horoscopes would work out with (some) delay...
Pointing to "free will" to prove the delayed action would be the same as saying that these specific astrological charts can be delineated in any way that fits the relationship best.
In our opinion this would either indicate a lack of understanding how reality works or a lack of astrological technique/practice.
Why then don't the same astrologers also claim that natal charts should work out with delay if "free will" prevails? Natal charts work out immediately and progress and evolve over time in a cyclic way out of their own origin/source.
This is the basic understanding of any astrological chart.
In our opinion, when two people meet, the central life force energy is there INSTANTLY -- without any delay and the interaction between both people as a team can be analyzed instantly and evolves as both people together evolve too.
What you must remember though is that composite charts are amathematical construct and artificial!
Unlike natal charts and other horoscopes, composites do not exist in time and space and are a fiction!
You have to take this into account when analyzing Composite Charts and that's why you have to be aware that assessing these specific compatibility horoscopes need a different approach and a lot of common sense.
That's why you should remember the following facts:
Don't interpret the planets in the signs because the composite is not a 'real' chart (for example: there are no retrogrades).
Only interpret the planets in the houses and the aspects
For some astrologers, the Composite Chart is the bottom line and the final word. It's told to overpower the simple chart comparison.
Other astrologers delineate the Composite Chart in addition to the simple astrological chart comparison to find additional information about the relationship.
We at Cosmic Technologies (CosmiTec) have VERY mixed feelings about the Composite Chart because it's a pure mathematical and technical construct. It does not operate on a Time-Space level (as horoscopes should do) so that you cannot delineate this chart like another horoscope.
For example, you cannot delineate the planets in the signs. Moreover, the Composite Chart may hold some surprising aspects like unreal Sun-Mercury aspects you cannot decipher by following standard astrological rules.
Instead of the Composite Chart, we recommend using the Davison Relationship chart which is also a midpoint chart that really exists in Time and Space and thus is a real horoscope you can use any astrological principle on.
From A. Einstein's theories, we learned that everything on planet earth is related to Time and Space and that's why we also think that in the fields of esoteric topics, this principle should be followed.
From the Composite Charts you cannot delineate attraction though. Composites tell you about the new entity that this couple becomes and the transformation that happens when two people are (brought) together.'
i think Cosmitec is confused. they may be trying to establish a unique viewpoint but overall I find what they say to be contradictory and not well thought out.any time an astrologer starts telling you what you can do and not do with a chart,they are only indulging in philosophy,because no one knows why astrology works and hence no one can tell you what won't work . I have a personal aversion to astrologers who make these statements about what won't work etc.and these guys fall into that category to me.
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From A. Einstein's theories, we learned that everything on planet earth is related to Time and Space and that's why we also think that in the fields of esoteric topics, this principle should be followed.
but they don't follow their own statement.i hate to go on a tangent but using Einstein as a parameter always bothers me because Einstein's theories are not even mathematically coherent. that is Einstein never was able to mathematically prove his theory of general relativity. He tried 18 times in a 20 years period and he could never get the math to work out.one might read the book A Different Universe by a nobel prize recipient .Robert laughlin
http://www.amazon.com/Different-Universe-Reinventing-Physics-Bottom/dp/0465038298
he reveals that Einstein's math is faulty and then adds that physicist "suppose" that if the math could be worked out it would be correct.......suppose.... if... aren't we talking about science here?
I addition Einstein was a plagiarist. there is nothing in his theory that was original to him. he stole every concept that is associated with him from other scientist of the day. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/135-09590 96-8236808?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=einstein+the+plagerist
please forgive me for going on this tangent,einstein is a pet peeve of mine.
if one is going to reachout to theorical physics to substantiate astrology then the most effective theory is quantum mechanics. basically matter is not the fundamental state of reality. matter/atoms are a function of quantum frequencies..tha is vibrations. the intersection(nodes) of these vibrations create the appearance of matter.
I follow this theory because then everything in astrology follows.
to me charts are a reflection of one's aural energies.the etheric energies including the aura exist before the physical body, hence the fate of humanity can be seen in the interactions of these etheric energies.
as to composite I use the image of a clear pond of water. if you throw 2 stones into the water, two separate waves are created. when these waves reach each other, a third separate wave is created, this is the composite created by the energies of two natal charts.
since matter is not the primary substance of the universe, then the vibrations of the composite are as valid as the vibrations of the natal charts.hence mathematical points can reflect the qualities and destiny of the native regardless of the fact they are simply mathematical points.
I am going little far out with this but to continue.....
using this paradigm ,then every person alive has a functioning composite chart with every other person alive. composite charts don't suddenly have valence when two people get to know each other. the composite between two people arise when they are born. of course unless you are interacting with a person, the composite has no value,though we have composites with everyone alive .
this is the reasoning I use with composites of a natal chart and a moment chart.your natal is the moment you were born and the moment chart is of the moment you are concerned with. it makes no difference that the natal corresponds to a physical being and the moment chart to a intangible moment... both are mathematical points in time. I have found that these types of composite are absolutely valid. on some ways this is almost like cheating at astrology because with a moment composite any aspects formed will be operating on you. whereas when you look at transits or progressions you have to figure out which aspect will affect you etc.ect.
todd
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