posted April 01, 2022 05:21 PM            

in combinations Draco to Draco, Draco to Tropical, Tropical to Draco?

I am now having the following transits, and wondering if this will be a breakup:

Progr. Comp. Moon square Pluto
Transit Draco Pluto on Draco Progr. Comp. Moon
Transit Pluto opposite Draco Composite Moon

On top of that,
Transit Draco Uranus on Progr. Comp. Draco Saturn & Ceres which also happen to be on Progr. Comp. Antivertex and opposite Composite Moon
Transit Saturn on Comp. Antivertex square Composite Saturn

posted April 01, 2022 05:33 PM            

So what's happening is that we almost broke up but I've misinterpreted what he did so it was an overreaction on my part (the question of something concerning his female friends which provoked my jealousy and which I interpreted as disrespect)

When we had a talk and reconciled I told him that I was feeling insecure with him and that I need more info about whom he is spending time with. He said we needed to work on it.

So what is happening now 2 weeks later. A friend of him is coming over for a weekend. And he assumes we won't see each other these days. I didn't ask who the friend was but I assume it's a female friend, most probably some ex or potential interest since he didn't want us to cross.

I didn't ask details out of pride and he didn't try to reassure me with more info. By the way he avoids describing his friend and their plans I become only more and more paranoid. So for now I reply very briefly or ignore his messages, staying at the verge of cold politeness. The less info I have the more paranoid I get.

posted April 01, 2022 06:13 PM            

As far as the astrology goes, I'm not quite that advanced but I can show you the transits my former husband and I had when we finally split.

This is all Draco.

Transits to our composite:

Transits to progressed composite:

Wow, looks like geometric completion! I've never seen a Grand Hexagon aspect pattern like this. All at anaretic/0 degrees, in between feminine and masculine signs. Sun at 0, moon at 29, in a square. Wow.

Outside of astrology... I don't think you're overreacting at all. What is a red flag to me is the fact that you are either not willing or not able to be vulnerable with him, because he has not been accepting, understanding, or reassuring in the past. And that is just something you have to work on both as individuals and as a couple if you want to continue. You've GOT to be able to communicate, and if one of you feels insecure or scared like this, then the other should be empathetic and love them enough to comfort and reassure, because they want to sustain the relationship. Personally, if my partner were being that evasive about having a friend of the interested sex stay over for the weekend, I would not freaking stand for that. The question you've then got to ask yourself is: do YOU want to be with someone who treats you this way? Do you TRULY believe you DESERVE this kind of treatment? And not in a self-righteous way, but in a self-respecting way. He knows you feel insecure based on your past overreaction, and it sounds like you took responsibility for it and apologized. But IMO a good partner would be compassionate enough, and want the relationship to continue enough, to repair any broken trust and/or try to reassure you so you feel secure... NOT provoke further damage. I am more interested in what the situation says about his character AND about yours, and then ask 1) do I want to be with someone like this and 2) how can I take responsibility for my own feelings of security (and at what, if any, point is he simply crossing a line)? Also, how long have you been together?

posted April 02, 2022 01:35 AM            

In the Draco composite transit Draco Pluto is on Asc. So it does seem to work with Draco transits. Opposite Venus and about to oppose Saturn and Sun. I wonder if in Tropical there's something similar. The upcoming oppositions suggest that there will be more transformations in the relationship.

Transit Draco Saturn on Antivertex, transit Uranus-Sun square it. It does work.

I wonder if the tropical transits are as telling.

What I find weird though is that in Progr. Composite Vertex is exactly conjunct Dsc and Moon conjunct South Node. The same aspects should be in the Tropical. Wondering for how long Vertex was conjunct Dsc? What was the orb between them when you got together?

Theoretically Vertex-Dsc should signify a new beginning rather than ending?

Moon-SNode could be emotional ending.

Sun-Mercury conjunction is square Nodes and Moon. Draco transit Uranus trine it.

I wonder if Sun-Venus conjunction is applying or separating?

posted April 02, 2022 01:47 AM            

We've been together for a bit over a year.

Yeah I am not sure he was elusive, I just didn't ask. Then I've made a pretext to refuse seeing him. And will do the same for the event after the weekend. He was kind of trying to see me before and after, to stick in the slots free of agenda with his friend. Which I hated obviously.

Previously he said we needed to work on this issue. He is very social and has many friends, male and female. I kind of trust that he wouldn't cheat physically, what bothers me is the possibility he falls in love. So it's something more emotional and the fact he has all these potential backups.

He also said that he couldn't tolerate my unbased and unreasonable jealousy, so it could be also that he is defending his freedom by not making efforts to reassure me. I am all for freedom too, that's why I don't feel comfortable to talk about it directly.

I wonder if the fact he didn't mean to introduce us to each other means it's an ex of some kind, or it's normal when someone is coming for 3 days' visit.

Yeah I almost feel he is provoking it on purpose. After our last fallout we were walking and suddenly he stopped and started staring at a girl on a poster saying - "is this my friend? I have a friend who is a model, is that her?" It seemed to me like he was provoking on purpose. Now with this friend it will turn out he is male and then I will be a psycho.

posted April 02, 2022 06:49 AM            

• Progressed Composite events

- Moon square Pluto
- before it will get on Composite Asc opposite to Jupiter on Dsc
- Sun sextile Valentine, 1* applying to sextile Saturn and 2* applying to trine Vertex
- Venus square Mars & 2* applying conjunction to Mercury
- Mercury 2* applying conjunction to Neptune

• Transits to Composite/ Progr. Composite

- Transit NNode just passed Composite and Progr. Composite NNode, approaching to subsequent oppositions to Saturn, Venus, Pluto but this will not be very soon
- Transit Jupiter and Neptune on Progr. Composite Antivertex with an applying opposition to Composite Moon
- Transit Saturn on Comp. Antivertex square Composite Saturn

• Draco Progressed Composite events

- Sun in 1* applying to a big trine with Cupido, Saturn and Vertex; Cupido already making the big trine with Saturn and Vertex
- POF applying conjunction to Saturn (1* but will happen faster than Sun in a year)

• Draco Progressed Composite to Tropical Composite/ Progressed Composite events

- Progr. Comp. Draco Saturn & Ceres on Progr. Comp. Antivertex and opposite Composite Moon (Ceres on Antivertex in 1* applying, the rest later)

• Transits to Draco Composite/ Progr. Composite

- Transit Draco Pluto on Draco Progr. Comp. Moon
- Transit Pluto opposite Draco Composite Moon
- Transit Draco Uranus on Progr. Comp. Draco Saturn & Ceres which also happen to be on Progr. Comp. Antivertex and opposite Composite Moon

posted April 03, 2022 01:07 PM            

In your first post you indicated transits to the Draco composite and pc nodal axis, but how can this be relevant if Draco always puts NN at 0' Aries?

I wonder if the Draco Pluto transiting over composite ascendant was enough alone, or if it was its opposition to everything on the descendant - Venus, Saturn, Juno all pretty significant it seems. There is also tUranus square cMars and cJupiter, forming a T-square not too far from AC/DC. More closely, if I'm reading it correctly, tUranus was squaring the cVertex axis. tMars on cMercury, the breakup was over the phone. tSaturn trine MC/sextile IC, the breakup was entirely brought about by home/family vs career concerns for us both.

It looks like no hard moon-Pluto aspects were going on in the progressed composite, but I suspect that the Mars-Moon square was a factor - if we're thinking of Mars as the lower vibration of Pluto. I do give a lot of credence to Pluto transits but it does seem a bit slow for a composite and I feel like Pluto/Scorpio is much more strategic while Mars/Aries is so impulsive, and the breakup was certainly impulsive and something neither of us saw coming in the moment. (I had already decided internally to divorce him... but in a year. lol.) We had literally JUST bought a house together in a new city, and I was planning (reluctantly) to move my whole life AND my father's to be with him.

In the progressed composite, I think the moon squaring Sun/Mercury/Mars and also loosely squaring the AC/DC/Vertex and Venus is pretty significant. For me it shows how the relationship just wasn't working for me emotionally anymore. But I am puzzled by pcVertex on the DC too - maybe the loose square from the pcMoon does it, or loose aspects from tMars and tMoon? tPluto square pcNeptune, trine MC/sextile IC - again I see the MC/IC stuff, although soft aspects, but from a malefic, in effect here. PLUS pcPluto was square pcMC/IC. tSaturn inconjunct that first house stellium with the sun, loose OOS conjunction with Jupiter activating the Grand Hexagon, but more closely opposite pcJuno. That seems major - tSaturn in hard aspect to pcJuno.

As you said about the oppositions, the relationship has indeed transformed. We are still close, supportive friends - he keeps trying to send me money which I turn down! - and obviously a year later we still haven't completely let each other go. For me the feelings are totally platonic now, but they were for a year or two before we broke up anyway. He keeps pining, idealizing, and hoping I'll come back. But I strongly feel the relationship completed its karmic purpose and has now shifted into a supportive friendship. So that is the "new beginning" to me - the relationship is finally what it should have been all along. The romantic/sexual part was just the gateway to a deeper friendship.

Here are the tropical charts.
Breakup transits to composite:

posted April 03, 2022 01:18 PM            

I agree that an emotional affair is still betrayal. However it seems there's not enough information to know if that's really what's happening. I would be VERY wary of making assumptions, and prioritize open and honest communication once feelings have cooled down.

I get very jealous and insecure myself. I don't know if you are normally or if it is just this situation. For me it is a pattern and therefore I'm the common denominator and it's something I've had to work on a lot. I generally don't feel secure until at least a year into the relationship; until then I'm hypervigilant, possessive, and suspicious.

There are also the "stages of relationships" - I've seen anywhere from 4 to 10. If you search it, maybe it can help you identify what stage you're in and how to handle it? This seems like a real testing of trust for both of you - ie can you trust him to be faithful and can he trust you to give him his independence without abandoning him?

posted April 03, 2022 01:19 PM            

To compare my own very sudden divorce with my parents', this is only an approximate date, but it is something my mother had been planning for a very long time, had been cheating on him and getting a house with another man all set up for me and my sister, etc. She announced it pretty suddenly to my dad and to us kids, but she had obviously been planning it a looooong time. Here is the Draco composite and Draco progressed composite for them - maybe this additional data can shed some light as well?

This is for the approximate date of her announcement to the family, but I can pull the charts for the official paperwork date if you want.
Draco Transits to Composite

posted April 03, 2022 03:24 PM            

I will write more later (can I quote astro part of your messages?) but my first observations are that the tropical alone do have indications as well:

- tSaturn on your cMoon square tUranus

- tPluto on pcMC

- as for the pcMoon squares, I would think that pcMoon effect should be too fleeting, but here maybe what matters is its conjunction to pcSNode; and yeah tSaturn-Uranus square touches loosely both which suggests that 6-8* orbs are quite working; but this square will touch the Moon more precisely which will be probably when the realization will hit him also

- interestingly, tNNode on cMC, tSNode on cIC - that's your whole house situation! and a new direction for your relationship!

posted April 03, 2022 03:33 PM            

Yes he said he wanted to work on it but then he did the opposite in just 2 weeks, and now I guess he is in the questioning whether he is willing to adapt to me.

However, I have also realized that this year Draco tPluto has already been on pcSun & Moon, and Tropical tPluto has been on pcMoon as well, so maybe it's not that dramatic.

posted April 03, 2022 03:42 PM            

Yes you may quote me It is so interesting to see these parallels between Draco and tropical and how they connect to reality. I really appreciate how much you have taught me about this and asteroids too. Thank you

posted April 03, 2022 03:47 PM            

That's indeed very interesting!

posted April 04, 2022 12:22 PM            

- Tropical composite Juno conjunct tNeptune, sextile tPluto, trine tJupiter. Neptune being the tightest aspect.
- Tropical progressed composite Juno (12H) in a Grand Kite, sextile NN (10H) and Chiron (2H) and exactly opposite Jupiter (6H), also forming a T-square with POF at apex and again Jupiter opposite; conjunct tChiron, square tMoon (which was conjunct cPOF), sextile tMars/SN, square tSaturn
- Draco composite Juno unaspected, but sextile tJupiter, closely opp tNeptune.
- Draco progressed composite Juno at 29* (anaretic) Taurus in 12H, again part of a Grand Kite with nodes and Chiron, though I doubt the nodal opposition counts as the opposition in the kite - Juno being this time part of the Grand Trine with Chiron and SN, sextiled by NN, and again pcJuno opp Jupiter 6H; square tMercury (may account for incorrect paperwork lol), opp tChiron (which is on the pcJupiter), square tSaturn, trine tMars, square tMoon.

So there no single common denominator among all of them. But there are these themes with Neptune, Jupiter, Saturn, Chiron, and the Nodes. Jupiter was retrograde!