posted November 12, 2018 01:45 AM            

Hi, I'm new to this forum and would like some help reading this relationship which started with intense attraction (it was instant attraction on his part). He's one of the few guys that I feel a really good mental rapport with and becos of that I started developing romantic feelings for him. He says that he feels the same way too but I'm not sure becos our r/s is highly sexual so I wonder if it's just lust? (We have Lilith conj Venus in Synastry). Can you tell from our Synastry and Composite?

Also, I would also like to know what Psyche means in Composite? In Davison there's Juno sextile Sun/Moon/Venus instead. And is Pluto squaring the stellium a death sentence? I'm already feeling the obsessiveness, possessiveness & jealousy. I can't get him outta my mind!! And he also says that he's going crazy. The intensity can be just looking into each other's eyes and I feel that I can't breath. But I've not felt the repulsion unlike what many said about Sun-Pluto.

Mars also square Saturn and oppose Uranus (Yiaks!). Do our natal Mars trine Saturn and Mars semisquare Saturn help with this energy? In synastry we have Mars conj Saturn so this must be a major theme? I haven't felt the infamous clash though. Is it becos we're handling our Mars-Saturn clash better since we have it in natal? In natal he also has Mars trine Uranus and in synastry we have the trine both ways which I think explains the instant sexual attraction.

Synastry (I'm blue). His ToB not exact. I only know he's born in the early morning. -

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posted November 12, 2018 04:55 AM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Go to tinypic.com and upload the synasty and composite
Use the second link which says it’s for forums etc.

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posted November 14, 2018 02:39 PM            

Are you concerned about staying power? There is also a double whammy moon Saturn. It doesn't matter so much that you have the one square with it...there's still a pull to stick together.

Looks like a newer relationship no? So you have a great mental connections, good sex...what are you worried about? Is there something that you are feeling intuitively?

posted November 15, 2018 01:27 AM            

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Originally posted by llewsacm:
Hi hikaru,
You should have very strong mental connections together as there is a double whammy Merc/sun trine in the synastry. This should especially appeal to you since you have that gemeni asc.

Are you concerned about staying power? There is also a double whammy moon Saturn. It doesn't matter so much that you have the one square with it...there's still a pull to stick together.

Looks like a newer relationship no? So you have a great mental connections, good sex...what are you worried about? Is there something that you are feeling intuitively?

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Hi llewsacm, it's been a few months and yes we have good mental connection and we're very drawn to each other sexually, but I'm worried it's only sex that's keeping him becos until now he hasn't said that he loves me so I wonder if the charts will reveal? We do have Moon trine Venus DW, does that say anything? Is it possible to have that but the other party doesn't feel the same way?

Also, looking at our Composite I'm worried about longevity due to the Pluto squares. There's also a lack of Saturn aspects to the inner planets except the nasty square to Mars which I've read so many bad things about, including bad sex.

posted November 15, 2018 07:50 AM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Go to tinypic.com and upload the synasty and composite
Use the second link which says it’s for forums etc.

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LunaIscariot, can I trouble you to also have a look since you responded earlier? I really like what you read for saadsarah8.

posted November 16, 2018 03:54 AM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
His TOB is probably about 30-40 minutes earlier.
Would make the most sense if he was an early degree cancer rising.

His Jupiter and mars are probably conjunct his ASC in cancer, this would match your sag DSC and moon in the 7th. And his ASC conjunct mars would match your DSC ruler Jupiter in Aries.
And your Saturn is probably conjunct his ASC, this would make him experience you as Saturnian which is very ideal for him with his cap 7th house. That’s what he’s looking for and he would be drawn to that energy from you with your Saturn there. This would also put his Saturn in the 2nd house conjunct Venus; your ASC ruler mercury in Taurus (2nd house) and have Venus in your first house. Strong symbolism match. That’s why he was instantly attracted.
And the cancer stelllum in the composite would conjunct his ASC 👍

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Hi LunaIscariot, thanks, that's very informative! His Cancer Asc is my guess as I went through all the early morning Asc signs and find Cancer descriptions fit him best.

Do you see anything from our Composite/Davison? I'm prepared to hear all the good & bad.

posted November 17, 2018 01:15 AM            

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Originally posted by LunaIscariot:
Yup, makes sense lol I totally think you have it right with the cancer ASC 👍 so good job 😊

If you could put the time back a bit like I said before so his ASC is around, let’s just say around 10 degrees cancer approx. that would help me study the charts better.

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I got them edited.

EDIT: I just wanna add that the reason I feel a bit insecure is because he's very popular with gals and Leo Venus loves the attention (+ that Libra Moon can be a bit of a flirt). In several ways he has been consistent but at times his behaviour is erratic. We've weathered through some trust issues and I would say it has strengthened our bond, but I still wonder about our stability... particularly how strong are his feelings for me?

Synastry

Composite

posted November 17, 2018 04:06 AM            

You have ASC ruler mercury square his DSC ruler Saturn 5 degrees, so that adds a strong magnetic atttraction. We like to see the ASC-DSC rulers making a hard aspect to each other. When this happens, it’s that “instant” attraction/chemistry.
You have a t-square with your natal Jupiter/Saturn hitting his moon, which is his ASC ruler, so that’s that going to be intensely felt by him, especially since it’s his moon anyways. Your DSC ruler is Jupiter, it’s opposed his moon, so there’s another ASC-DSC ruler connection, DW. This tells me there’s a strong magnetic attraction/chemistry between you. This acts like a venus/mars square and opposition. But since there hard aspects, it can be a push/pull, attraction/repulsion energy at times as well.
But with your Saturn conjunction his ASC or in his first house AND your Saturn squaring his moon/ASC ruler, he is experiencing you as strongly Saturnian as I mentioned before. And this is actually very attractive to him because of his Capricorn DSC. He likes this. And your own Saturn is your 8th house ruler. So what are traditionally “bad” aspects, as Saturn is a malefic planet, isn’t so bad after all when we personalize the synastry.
Since your 8th ruler is being heavily activated with him, it’s showing a really strong sexual attraction between you but especially on your side! This Saturn of yours is even conjunct his Mars! Your mars is in his 8th... So yes, sexual/physical attraction isn’t lacking in the slightest lol.

You have another T-Square with your natal moon/mars square with his sun. This one is actually a bit tricky, and I would say is the most challenging part of your synastry. Mainly because none of these planets are ruling relationship/attraction houses for you, so they’re going to manifest and be felt/interpreted in the traditional negative sense of a hard aspect. Sun square moon, sun opp mars, these are tough aspects. It shows a lack of harmony (sun/mars) and understanding (sun/moon). You as the moon may feel especially misunderstood by him at times, and he might feel you’re being argumentative/abrasive or competitive towards him as well as with your mars opp his sun.
Luckily Neptune is imvolved to soften things up and the edge off that marsian energy. But this can also add to the confusion and misunderstanding I mentioned with that sun/moon square lol.
You do have sun trine sun by sign, and moon sextile moon. So this shouldn’t be TOO much of an issue. But something to be aware of
The mercuries trine by sign, and the mars trine by sign is also going to help a lot 👍
You both have balanced charts as well, all the elements in your charts etc.
So you do have enough similarities or compatibility to be able to find a common ground I think. I’m not really seeing a true incompatibility issue here tbh. Just a few kinks you may have to work out.

BUT, I will say this. I do think the attraction is stronger on your part. And I’ll tell you why. He matches your DSC needs strongly, with his cancer rising (you have moon in the 7th, sag DSC (he has Jupiter/Mars conjunct his ASC, your Jupiter is in Aries), strong symbolism matching. He also has his ASC moon in libra in your 5th house, your 5th cusp is libra. And your 8th ruler is Saturn, your Saturn is heavily activated etc.
So he hits all your relationship/attraction houses.

Now for him, you don’t have any planets in his 5th, 7th. But as I mentioned before, Saturn is in the second which matches your ASC ruler mercury in Taurus, and being conjunct Venus matches your venus in the 1st, so a decent symbolism match. The rulers of his 5th are decently aspected as well with his Pluto involved in that t-square with his moon, but his 7th ruler Saturn isn’t too much. It’s making a trine to your moon and square your mercury, but that’s about it. Not very enduring or strong aspects that are going to captivate that Saturn. We wanna see conjunctions and hard aspects, and lots of them. You want the rulers to be as aspected/stimulated as possible ideally. The biggest issue is you don’t have anything in Capricorn or strong Saturn aspects to your personal planets, Saturn on an angle or a 10th house stellium etc. to give you that strong Capricorn energy he’s seeking. So even though he’s EXPERIENCING you as Saturn, it’s more of an illusion and not based on your real personality/chart.
I think this will lead him to become disillusioned/dissatisfied after awhile once he truly gets to know you and realizes that Saturn energy in you isn’t really there. Especially since even his Venus is conjunct Saturn! Lol.
His 5th and 8th rulers are not being powerfully aspected or making any conjunctions to you etc. is a bit worrying to me as well if the 7th house isn’t strong, cuz sometimes if the 5th and 8th symbolism matching/overlays and rulers are really strong it can make up for a weaker 7th. But your mars in his 8th is awesome. He’s gonna feel the sexual/physical attraction part.

So while I do think he likes you forsure, especially right now. I think it’s more an infatuation/passing fling than anything enduring or that will lead to real love for him just based on the charts.
I do hope I’m wrong though!

I would say, because your composite is pretty solid, it has potential, but take it slow! You don’t want to catch strong feelings (cuz it looks like you will if you haven’t akready!), and have them be unrequited in the end.
Just be yourself, and take your time just getting to really know each other and build a strong friendship etc. first and if he’s attracted after that and wanting to pursue something more, then by all means 😁

posted November 17, 2018 07:45 AM            

What you mentioned is also what I feared.. that his attraction will be temporary and I'm not really as Saturnian as he likes. Does it help that my sun/moon midpoint Aqua hits his 8th house? I also realised that when I'm cool (which is one side of my personality, I wasn't pretending) it seems to attract him more...yet if I'm too cool he gets insecure as well. I'm finding it hard to manage how I should treat him becos he can be a little confusing at times. (EDIT: For e.g. while I'm still not certain whether he really loves me but he has told me several times that he wants to make me pregnant!)

It's been 6mths but I'm uncertain and observing... I'm also trying to pull back a little and not sink too deep. Right now I'm trying to focus on strengthening our emotional bond and not make our connection just physical, and if it isn't there then at least I'm not caught in a web of lust.