posted June 17, 2019 09:14 PM            

If you want to elaborate on some basic principles or things you always check (Moon/Saturn seeming to be a staple?) I'd love to hear any pointers in general. I'll keep reading what I can when I have the time otherwise in any case.

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Midpoints are approximate.

1.

Am I right in thinking that a 0 Aries Moon/Saturn MP opposite the ASC + Karma-Aphrodite would flare up as significant to you? Past lives seeming a suggestion?

2.

But with Uranus at 4 Libra opp Chiron possibly not as stable as impression otherwise might be? In another chart asked about you cited it as his likely never being content with anything the other person does. Was that chart specific or a general thing perhaps? The aspect is a generational thing to many in their own charts.

3.

Jupiter/Juno at 5 Cancer opposes Moon/Venus-Merc-Valentine at 4-5 Capricorn. This would otherwise seem significant if I've read your readings right, but they square the Uranus-Chiron opposition at 4 Libra-Aries, so... coming to naught? Or an on-again off-again kind of a thing?

4.

Except there is Union at 6 Libra also squaring Jupiter/Juno so I'd read that as a good thing for longevity or getting together otherwise? Also with Union trine Amor, maybe even Lilith?

5.

Isis/Osiris midpoint at 17 Pisces conjunct Psyche on South Node trine Venus-Mercury-Valentine seems fairly loving? (Past life marriage?) But Psyche & nodes are squared by Nessus, so transgressing somehow? How do you use Nessus on your part?

6.

Eros/Psyche square Saturn = an ultimate downer or something serious?

7.

You wrote about the "Sword of God" with inconjuncts. What if there is a Jupiter at the tip inconjunct the NN and Venus-Mercury-Valentine the other way? This seems benefics only but in such an aspect pattern? Good or bad? Jupiter squares Orcus.

8.

Last assumption at this stage, you'd say something about a Sun/Moon square Juno-Pluto, but I'm not quite sure what. Presumably intense (harsh)? Mars/Pluto at 24 Sag also with the Sun/Moon so... not sure if violent is the right word or what?

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:/ Easier to visualize by posting the chart used as an example although I did mean to try to grasp at things more theoretically first off.

Orcus 19.19 Cancer
Isis 9.07 Aries
Osiris 25.42' Aqua
Eris 11.54' R Ari

posted June 18, 2019 05:00 PM            

Am I right in thinking that a 0 Aries Moon/Saturn MP opposite the ASC + Karma-Aphrodite would flare up as significant to you? Past lives seeming a suggestion?

this would indicate that the devotion between them was augmented by affection. but I wouldn't think of past lifes on these aspects alone. karma is not necessarily a aspect of past lifes.
2.

But with Uranus at 4 Libra opp Chiron possibly not as stable as impression otherwise might be? In another chart asked about you cited it as his likely never being content with anything the other person does. Was that chart specific or a general thing perhaps? The aspect is a generational thing to many in their own charts.

in composites the generation nature of an aspect is not always important because a chiron/Uranus square could be achieved without either person having a chiron/Uranus/square natally . if both were of the same age then,yes, the aspect could be a reflection of mutual chiron/Uranus squares. Chiron is a in between symbol, it moves fast enough not to be generational especially when it is closer to Saturn.

3.

Jupiter/Juno at 5 Cancer opposes Moon/Venus-Merc-Valentine at 4-5 Capricorn. This would otherwise seem significant if I've read your readings right, but they square the Uranus-Chiron opposition at 4 Libra-Aries, so... coming to naught? Or an on-again off-again kind of a thing?

midpoints must be consider as polarities and not a single points of significance.
MP squares can be good or bad s oppositions can be good or bad. gebrality MPs of planets with similar natures can be favorable if in square or opposition. opposite nature planet MPs generally will be unfavorable in square though oppositions are not so easily categorized.

in your example ,they would be unfavorable though off and on is possible.here you must consider the nature of the natals. some natives would thrive with a on and off relationship while others would not accept such a situation.
4.

Except there is Union at 6 Libra also squaring Jupiter/Juno so I'd read that as a good thing for longevity or getting together otherwise? Also with Union trine Amor, maybe even Lilith?

5.

Isis/Osiris midpoint at 17 Pisces conjunct Psyche on South Node trine Venus-Mercury-Valentine seems fairly loving? (Past life marriage?) But Psyche & nodes are squared by Nessus, so transgressing somehow? How do you use Nessus on your part?

6.

Eros/Psyche square Saturn = an ultimate downer or something serious?

I tend to find this malicious as the aspects of pleasure when crossing the perverse nature of Saturn tend to unhealthy" relationships. that is satrun enjoys the pain inflicted rather than enjoying the pleasure.

7.

You wrote about the "Sword of God" with inconjuncts. What if there is a Jupiter at the tip inconjunct the NN and Venus-Mercury-Valentine the other way? This seems benefics only but in such an aspect pattern? Good or bad? Jupiter squares Orcus.

I think the Orcus/Jupiter square would take precedence over the value of the sword of god.
multiple aspects make it very difficult to focus on the meaning of a single aspect

8.

Last assumption at this stage, you'd say something about a Sun/Moon square Juno-Pluto, but I'm not quite sure what. Presumably intense (harsh)? Mars/Pluto at 24 Sag also with the Sun/Moon so... not sure if violent is the right word or what?

posted June 19, 2019 07:59 PM            

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Originally posted by Keela Dal:
I've been gathering together some of your recent composite readings to try to get a better sense of some things you say to see if I can apply any on my own, so is it okay to ask you about some things?

If you want to elaborate on some basic principles or things you always check (Moon/Saturn seeming to be a staple?) I'd love to hear any pointers in general. I'll keep reading what I can when I have the time otherwise in any case.

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Midpoints are approximate.

1.

Am I right in thinking that a 0 Aries Moon/Saturn MP opposite the ASC + Karma-Aphrodite would flare up as significant to you? Past lives seeming a suggestion?

I don't see these asteroids as exerting a strong influence and karma is too general concept to attribute to a past life.

2.

But with Uranus at 4 Libra opp Chiron possibly not as stable as impression otherwise might be? In another chart asked about you cited it as his likely never being content with anything the other person does. Was that chart specific or a general thing perhaps? The aspect is a generational thing to many in their own charts.

it depends if the opposition is integrated into the chart as a whole. if it sits by itself , it might not have a significant affect.

3.

Jupiter/Juno at 5 Cancer opposes Moon/Venus-Merc-Valentine at 4-5 Capricorn. This would otherwise seem significant if I've read your readings right, but they square the Uranus-Chiron opposition at 4 Libra-Aries, so... coming to naught? Or an on-again off-again kind of a thing?

yes it is a aspect of instability but can manifest as off and on, depending on the natures of the natives.

4.

Except there is Union at 6 Libra also squaring Jupiter/Juno so I'd read that as a good thing for longevity or getting together otherwise? Also with Union trine Amor, maybe even Lilith?

union is a accoutrement and I don't think it exerts a strong affect on bringing a relationship together. it is a marker that there could be a closeness.

5.

Isis/Osiris midpoint at 17 Pisces conjunct Psyche on South Node trine Venus-Mercury-Valentine seems fairly loving? (Past life marriage?) But Psyche & nodes are squared by Nessus, so transgressing somehow? How do you use Nessus on your part?

this stellium with the node can imply the relationship is reflecting higher etheric planes.
with nessus square the node I think of conditional and oppressive inteactions. with the square to psyche and iactually think of emotional abusive conditions. though isis and Osiris can show a spiritual task to heal
possibly pat like scars.

6.

Eros/Psyche square Saturn = an ultimate downer or something serious?

this is most often a indication of come perversity... pleasure in inflicting pain .. pedophilia and victimizing the weak.

7.

You wrote about the "Sword of God" with inconjuncts. What if there is a Jupiter at the tip inconjunct the NN and Venus-Mercury-Valentine the other way? This seems benefics only but in such an aspect pattern? Good or bad? Jupiter squares Orcus.

the Jupiter/orcus square can be very malicious and any characteristics that the sword of god symbolizes would be over ridden . my experience with sword of god are that sudden intrusion of destiny usually bring unwanted changes. to me it symbolizes maliciousness/selfishness within outwardly wholesome and harmonious situations.there is a good side but it depends on which side you are on

8.

Last assumption at this stage, you'd say something about a Sun/Moon square Juno-Pluto, but I'm not quite sure what. Presumably intense (harsh)? Mars/Pluto at 24 Sag also with the Sun/Moon so... not sure if violent is the right word or what?

I don't think it is inherently violent but it shows a endemic struggle of wills to rule the relationship. with nodal presence it might indicate past life dynamics. but overall it is a power play with I the relatioship that will always be there

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:/ Easier to visualize by posting the chart used as an example although I did mean to try to grasp at things more theoretically first off.

Orcus 19.19 Cancer
Isis 9.07 Aries
Osiris 25.42' Aqua
Eris 11.54' R Ari

Groom 4.25 Cap
Briede 12.15 Gem
McBride 17.10 Ari
Groombridge 21.26 Vir

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Am I right in thinking that a 0 Aries Moon/Saturn MP opposite the ASC + Karma-Aphrodite would flare up as significant to you? Past lives seeming a suggestion?

I don't see these asteroids as exerting a strong influence and karma is too general concept to attribute to a past life.

2.

But with Uranus at 4 Libra opp Chiron possibly not as stable as impression otherwise might be? In another chart asked about you cited it as his likely never being content with anything the other person does. Was that chart specific or a general thing perhaps? The aspect is a generational thing to many in their own charts.

it depends if the opposition is integrated into the chart as a whole. if it sits by itself , it might not have a significant affect.

3.

Jupiter/Juno at 5 Cancer opposes Moon/Venus-Merc-Valentine at 4-5 Capricorn. This would otherwise seem significant if I've read your readings right, but they square the Uranus-Chiron opposition at 4 Libra-Aries, so... coming to naught? Or an on-again off-again kind of a thing?

yes it is a aspect of instability but can manifest as off and on, depending on the natures of the natives.

4.

Except there is Union at 6 Libra also squaring Jupiter/Juno so I'd read that as a good thing for longevity or getting together otherwise? Also with Union trine Amor, maybe even Lilith?

union is a accoutrement and I don't think it exerts a strong affect on bringing a relationship together. it is a marker that there could be a closeness.

5.

Isis/Osiris midpoint at 17 Pisces conjunct Psyche on South Node trine Venus-Mercury-Valentine seems fairly loving? (Past life marriage?) But Psyche & nodes are squared by Nessus, so transgressing somehow? How do you use Nessus on your part?

this stellium with the node can imply the relationship is reflecting higher etheric planes.
with nessus square the node I think of conditional and oppressive inteactions. with the square to psyche and iactually think of emotional abusive conditions. though isis and Osiris can show a spiritual task to heal
possibly pat like scars.

6.

Eros/Psyche square Saturn = an ultimate downer or something serious?

this is most often a indication of come perversity... pleasure in inflicting pain .. pedophilia and victimizing the weak.

7.

You wrote about the "Sword of God" with inconjuncts. What if there is a Jupiter at the tip inconjunct the NN and Venus-Mercury-Valentine the other way? This seems benefics only but in such an aspect pattern? Good or bad? Jupiter squares Orcus.

the Jupiter/orcus square can be very malicious and any characteristics that the sword of god symbolizes would be over ridden . my experience with sword of god are that sudden intrusion of destiny usually bring unwanted changes. to me it symbolizes maliciousness/selfishness within outwardly wholesome and harmonious situations.there is a good side but it depends on which side you are on

8.

Last assumption at this stage, you'd say something about a Sun/Moon square Juno-Pluto, but I'm not quite sure what. Presumably intense (harsh)? Mars/Pluto at 24 Sag also with the Sun/Moon so... not sure if violent is the right word or what?

I don't think it is inherently violent but it shows a endemic struggle of wills to rule the relationship. with nodal presence it might indicate past life dynamics. but overall it is a power play with I the relationship that will always be there