posted December 11, 2019 08:37 PM            

I am just back from the event where I met him (Dec 11, between 9 and 10 PM) after three years and most of what you had predicted has happened, especially this:

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Todd: with the Pluto/orcus square and with the midpoint opposed to venus and square top the node,the emotional interactions would be cordial at best and potentially very cold

Jupiter is opposed to chiron and eris which could give a enjoyment to your discussions. chiron and Jupiter show very intellectualized conversation with critical analysis of the subject matter of this meeting. so professionally ,you might gain insight to common interest.

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Actually, he was very nice, always smiling at me and we had some good laughters too.

The main problem was the situation itself, since lots of his old friends were there to attend his performance/speech and our conversation was constantly interrupted by people coming and talking to him... so I have been mainly waiting for him to turn back to me again and soon someone else came again and again, and I mainly felt quite silly in standing there all the time waiting for him to talk to me again.......

but he was nice enough to always turn back and (try to) keep talking to me, until we ended up making jokes about this and laughed.

I am disappointed that this way I really didnt have the chance to properly develope any serious conversation, not even intellectually speaking, it all went very quick...

Also, the biggest disappointment was that when finally all those people were gone and we were finally alone and could have started a real talk, his wife (grrr) came and rushed him to leave :-((

So I basically left the place together with him and his wife (!!) and told him very quickly that I am staying in LDN this week in case there was the chance to meet again, but he didnt even make it to answer cause his wife started to talk to him while walking away fast with him :-(

He just turned back to me and told me he was happy to have met me again, said goodbye and then left :-(

I dont know what to feel now... I am happy to have seen him again, I feel I still love him but that things are not over yet again... it all always seems "unfinished" between us, and so this is my feeling again about our meeting tonight.

I just stood there seeing him go and felt miserably hopeless about such eternal "unfinished" situation between us. I just wished to SCREAM.

Now I need to understand why I have come here and what this all means again, but it's like nothing has changed and at this moment I feel it didnt make sense to come at all...

I have no clue if I will have another chance to meet him this week, before I fly back home.
I also have no clue of what he felt about me. He seemed sincerely happy to see me and interested in talking, he asked about my book and also if I liked the movie he had presented tonight... just the situation was very unlucky, I think.

Todd... can you see any development of this from transits ? How does he feel about me? Will I have any chance to meet him again in the next few days, before I leave? should I try to contact him?

Or is this it?

On a side note, about my health situation... I followed your advice, I was very sick until yesterday, but today I woke up and the pain was magically gone.

BIG THANK YOU

❤️ 🙏

posted December 11, 2019 08:51 PM            

I'm no whiz kid like Todd when it comes to astrology but I did pull a tarot reading for you if that's okay?

4 of Cups, Wheel of Fortune, Death (4 of Pentacles), King of Swords, Judgement

posted December 11, 2019 09:49 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
Hey Stoika, I know this post is addressed to Todd but I want to say that I'm so happy for you that you got a chance to go and speak to him! I know it didn't turn out the way that you had hoped, but it took so much bravery to try and understand this situation better in order to get closure, and I admire your spirit of perseverance.

I'm no whiz kid like Todd when it comes to astrology but I did pull a tarot reading for you if that's okay?

4 of Cups, Wheel of Fortune, Death (4 of Pentacles), King of Swords, Judgement

I would say that he feels quite similarly as you do in the sense that he also feels as if such an incredible, monumentous occasion between you both was wasted by so many interruptions, it dampened his spirit quite a bit because he wanted to really savour that moment with you. It has had quite a transformative effect on his feelings, and he is completely aware of an element of fate playing into you both meeting again, though he's still trying to keep a rational mind about all of this and trying not to overanalyze things too much, but it is quite profound, this event. He's keeping his cards close to his chest right now, not wanting to reveal his own subconscious depths to himself, but your meeting had a huge effect on him, certainly wasn't meaningless to him by any means

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Hi dearest Athenaia!!! ❤️❤️❤️

I actually wanted to call you and also Hiraku in this since you were so nice to share the whole story and so supportive ❤️ ...but didnt mean to be self-centered or so so eventually I thought I would update Todd on his prediction cause he was spot on, and I figured out you and Hiraku would see the post anyway :-)

BIG THANK YOU for your lovely reply, and especially for your tarot reading!!! This cheers me up so much ❤️

I hope you are right, especially cause I felt so ridiculous and I am so afraid that I was just annoying to him :-(
I have no clue, since he was very sweet instead... but seeing him actually leaves me with this huge void inside now, and I just miss him so much again... I dont understand what it all means at this moment, I just dont feel well at all... I feel hopeless and that it's just all unfair...

posted December 15, 2019 03:20 AM            

I think it's really nice that he was friendly and chatty with you and didn't avoid you at all, especially with his wife there! Be happy with this friendship. I believe if his wife was not there with him, things would have been different... you may meet up etc and have more time to reconnect and rebuild the bond.

I don't wanna overanalyse though as he has made no attempts to further the contact, and with his wife with him I can understand why. Does she know you?

The meeting does feel unfinished but what if this is only so much he can offer you now?

I'm not good with transits but I noticed tNN went past your cVertex not too long ago around early Oct. Was that the time this meeting was initiated/confirmed?

posted December 15, 2019 11:15 AM            

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Originally posted by Hikaru29:
@Stoika, I supposed you were referring to me when you wrote Hiraku? LOL!

I think it's really nice that he was friendly and chatty with you and didn't avoid you at all, especially with his wife there! Be happy with this friendship. I believe if his wife was not there with him, things would have been different... you may meet up etc and have more time to reconnect and rebuild the bond.

I don't wanna overanalyse though as he has made no attempts to further the contact, and with his wife with him I can understand why. Does she know you?

The meeting does feel unfinished but what if this is only so much he can offer you now?

I'm not good with transits but I noticed tNN went past your cVertex not too long ago around early Oct. Was that the time this meeting was initiated/confirmed?

~ Hikaru

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Hi darling, so good to hear from you!!! Oh sorry about Hiraku, LOL! I guess I am a little mindless these days, ahah

posted December 17, 2019 12:54 PM            

I don't know how I missed your reply.
i have been checking my emails and so i haven't been as attentive to this forum for your reply.

i'll get back tomorrow

posted December 17, 2019 07:00 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
Stoika7

I don't know how I missed your reply.
i have been checking my emails and so i haven't been as attentive to this forum for your reply.

i'll get back tomorrow

todd

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Hi Todd, so good to hear from you! Would love to hear your insight given our meeting was so unexpectedly lovely despite the difficult situation... he looked very surpirsed but happy to meet me and gave me a lot of attention... Now I have come back home in Italy, but nothing new has happened since then.

I have pulled a multicomposite for the day and exact time of the meeting, with our name asteroids , it is a ref. place chart, dont know if this is a good method...

Thanks so much for any comment you might add !

posted December 18, 2019 07:34 PM            

I don't see her named asteroid, or which one did you select for her? also could you replace amore and karma with ceres,nessus a orcus, Sedna, ixion,vesta,pallas, aura(1488).

or you could keep the asteroids your using and maybe make two tricomposites to include all the symbols you want to use.

without going into detail till the other symbols are added, it is clear the this is a "karmic" relationship with the vertex conjunct to the node. these energies have always been present so your sense that there is something still unresolved may be correct.
generally i would say the way it went with him would indicate an ending to your quest. but with the vertex and the node conjunct, you sensing a further karma with him may be correct.

posted December 19, 2019 12:07 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
meeting him again and with him acting so lovely and caring with me it is all the opposite I was expecting and right at this moment I feel it's even harder than before for me to move on and I really dont know how I am going to cope with this and for how long! :-s

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Oh no... I wish I could put a spell on you so you can forget him! Lol. Based on your account so far, I don't think there's a possibility for development right now, with the fact that he's married and (clearly) trying to keep a distance. I'm just glad that he's nice & friendly to you and did not treat you like a stranger.

I'm usually supportive if feelings are mutual but I don't see it here, at least I don't see it being reciprocal on an equal level. He may have had feelings for you... and may still have, but it's obviously not strong enough for him to pursue anything, and with him marrying another, it kinda sealed it, don't ya think? I think your comp Uranus opp Venus square Moon show this fluctuation of feelings.

posted December 19, 2019 03:09 AM            

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Originally posted by todd:
that exactly what I thought about...a tricomposite because with his wife being such a major force,it seems your "destiny" wit him must include her influence.

I don't see her named asteroid, or which one did you select for her? also could you replace amore and karma with ceres,nessus a orcus, Sedna, ixion,vesta,pallas, aura(1488).

or you could keep the asteroids your using and maybe make two tricomposites to include all the symbols you want to use.

without going into detail till the other symbols are added, it is clear the this is a "karmic" relationship with the vertex conjunct to the node. these energies have always been present so your sense that there is something still unresolved may be correct.
generally i would say the way it went with him would indicate an ending to your quest. but with the vertex and the node conjunct, you sensing a further karma with him may be correct.

todd

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Dear Todd,

I have added/replaced the symbols you asked.
The named asteroids are:
me - Eva
he - James
his wife - Dinah

Just need to make clear that I didnt pull a tricomposite including her wife's data, but me, he and the event data. Hope this is ok! Or did you mean I should pull a tricomposite with her wife included ?

Yes, I have noticed the NN/Vertex! This to me is a confirmation of our meeting being extremely significant at that moment, and I sensed again that the intensity of our emotions was mutual... and I felt that he strongly sensed the "unfinished" between us as well as he turned back to me and told me he was happy to have met me again... from the tone of his voice and the way he behaved I can tell it wasnt just a polite goodbye but... there was a lot of "unsaid".

posted December 19, 2019 03:15 AM            

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How do you know you will not meet another someone special again? 💕 You're closing your doors to various other options because of him.

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posted December 19, 2019 08:28 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
[QUOTE][b] How do you know you will not meet another someone special again? 💕 You're closing your doors to various other options because of him.

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...because, I am not interested in other options. I am fifty years old. I was married for 20 years. Before that, I had two other longtime rs... when I met him, I wasnt looking for love, and I still want to be free. But, I love HIM :-)
I never had such strong feelings for someone I havent seen in three years... and being in a crazy psychic connection like this one. I just can't decide to stop loving him, it is bigger than me.[/B][/QUOTE]

I hope you don't mind me replying Stoika7. I think you can do both, you can hold this man in your heart, keep loving him but also keep your heart open in all things. Maybe you and this man are meant to be, but that will happen at the right time.

I think its always important for us to dig as deep as we can when we feel a connection this strong. The universe will, in time, show if this is meant to be a friendship, lover or just a once in a lifetime connection that allows you to learn more about yourself and the universe.

posted December 19, 2019 11:52 AM            

I look at this one but I sill think it would be interesting to look a composite of the 3 you

clearly there is great affection between you as your asteroids are conjunct to cupid.the moon/sun/Saturn/asteroids-cupid kite formation shows a very strong harmony between you.

with Dinah conjunct the node/vertex conjunction, she is intimately connected to your karma with him. Dinah is also opposed to nessus so clearly she is against your presence. .

pallas is conjunct to juno and opposed to the moon which shows the great emotional empowerment you feel a for intimate relationship would give you .

the tsquare of orcus/pluto/mercury suggest that ,yes, he was holding back his thoughts and wasn't being as forth coming as you would like.

with Neptune square to Jupiter, the time was not favorable to sharing deep ideas.

overall the relationship is very favorable but on this occasion there were several aspect that closed off and intimate communications.

i'd be interested in the composite of the 3 of you

posted December 19, 2019 03:11 PM            

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Originally posted by todd:
thank you for clarifying the tricomposite.
as I thought the tricompsoie was of the 3 of you because that was what I thought of when I mentioned a tricomposite.

I look at this one but I sill think it would be interesting to look a composite of the 3 you

clearly there is great affection between you as your asteroids are conjunct to cupid.the moon/sun/Saturn/asteroids-cupid kite formation shows a very strong harmony between you.

with Dinah conjunct the node/vertex conjunction, she is intimately connected to your karma with him. Dinah is also opposed to nessus so clearly she is against your presence. .

pallas is conjunct to juno and opposed to the moon which shows the great emotional empowerment you feel a for intimate relationship would give you .

the tsquare of orcus/pluto/mercury suggest that ,yes, he was holding back his thoughts and wasn't being as forth coming as you would like.

with Neptune square to Jupiter, the time was not favorable to sharing deep ideas.

overall the relationship is very favorable but on this occasion there were several aspect that closed off and intimate communications.

i'd be interested in the composite of the 3 of you

todd

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Dear Todd, thank you so much for your great insight and interest ❤️

I feel all you say is completely true... even though I still think he offered me even too much attention given the situation and this blew me away... Certainly the circumstance was not favourable for anything more than this and I feel I even gained A LOT more than I had figured out would happen !

Is there any aspect signiling "regret" from his part for not being able to share more than this or to stay in contact.... ? Or any idea if this will bring to further future contacts or the actual end of our karma... ?

I have pulled the tricomposite between the 3 of us for you, just note that I dont know her TOB... I have the strong feeling that she's a LEO ASC, but the ASC and angles in the chart might not be correct.

If helpful, I have also added the Composite chart between the two of them.

🙏🙏🙏

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Tricomposite for the three of us

Composite for the two of them

posted December 19, 2019 03:17 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
[QUOTE][b] How do you know you will not meet another someone special again? 💕 You're closing your doors to various other options because of him.

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...because, I am not interested in other options. I am fifty years old. I was married for 20 years. Before that, I had two other longtime rs... when I met him, I wasnt looking for love, and I still want to be free. But, I love HIM :-)
I never had such strong feelings for someone I havent seen in three years... and being in a crazy psychic connection like this one. I just can't decide to stop loving him, it is bigger than me.[/B][/QUOTE]

posted December 19, 2019 03:28 PM            

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Originally posted by roseblue:
I hope you don't mind me replying Stoika7. I think you can do both, you can hold this man in your heart, keep loving him but also keep your heart open in all things. Maybe you and this man are meant to be, but that will happen at the right time.

I think its always important for us to dig as deep as we can when we feel a connection this strong. The universe will, in time, show if this is meant to be a friendship, lover or just a once in a lifetime connection that allows you to learn more about yourself and the universe.

x

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Thank you roseblue ! I completely agree with you :-)

posted December 19, 2019 03:31 PM            

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Originally posted by anska5:
Believe me, I'm truly sympathetic because I've experienced something similar and it kept me in a spell for years. I think the big question is, what are you hoping for? Are you happy just to see him every few years without any hope something will ever come of it? Be honest with yourself, or will you always hope something will develop? And above all the bottom line is, as my friends would always tell me, really look at his behaviour, has he ever given you any indication at all that this is a mutually felt connection? Has he actively contacted you? What would really make me pause is the fact that he stopped all communication with you AND fell in love and married another woman. In the context of that it means very little that he is friendly and chatting at an event. Especially as a libra ascendant (ruler venus opposite neptune) and mercury in 7th house, venus in 9th that's probably second nature to him. He is clearly an extremely magnetic man, with sun conjunct eros in 8th house AND Pluto conjunct ascendant and that ascendant ruler venus in gem opposite neptune. When I saw the birth date I actually thought of a gorgeous British actor with the exact same birthday, so natally he obviously has the 'it factor' and blatant star qualities. Forgive me if I overstepped the mark, I don't know the whole story, looking at his chart I just don't see any natal indicators why he wouldnt act if he felt the bond as well and instead marry someone else.

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posted December 19, 2019 03:38 PM            

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Originally posted by anska5: I think the big question is, what are you hoping for? Are you happy just to see him every few years without any hope something will ever come of it? Be honest with yourself, or will you always hope something will develop? And above all the bottom line is, as my friends would always tell me, really look at his behaviour, has he ever given you any indication at all that this is a mutually felt connection? Has he actively contacted you? What would really make me pause is the fact that he stopped all communication with you AND fell in love and married another woman. In the context of that it means very little that he is friendly and chatting at an event.

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posted December 19, 2019 05:11 PM            

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Originally posted by athenaia:
I don't think Stoika is asking for life advice or unsolicited opinions on how she wants to live her life, no matter how well intentioned people are being (and I know everyone's heart is in a good place). She is specifically seeking Todd's answer to this and I think we should all respect that.

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posted December 19, 2019 11:18 PM            

Yes I did this post for Todd, cause I take his astrological experience in great consideration, he was always spot on about my situation, and he has been nicely following/giving me insight since a while now...

Of course I welcome your insight since you were also so kind and amazing in reading our chart!
And I do welcome any other's insight as well, astrologically.

I just hope the thread doesnt become confused as Todd might miss my reply, cause I'm very interested in his reading.