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Topic: HELP: Opinion for midpoint in this synastry! @stoika, @todd, @everyone
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Sara1984
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From: Italia
Registered: Nov 2019
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posted July 13, 2020 02:41 PM
  
Hi everyone  Please, can anyone confirm the following Midpoint in this synastry?:
- Moon conjunct Sun/Moon
- Moon conjunct Moon/North Node
- Mars/Venus square Sun DW! How can I interpret them and the synastry in its whole? Gosh.. this guy is intense.. I've known him superficially from years. His father died a couple of months ago and we deepened our knowledge and it was like a bolt of the blue! After a half hour chat I asked myself "what the hell happened here??" Very emotional.. eyes to eyes.. and there is also some kind of physical attraction from both sides (even if it is not absolutely my type of man). Synastry chart (I'm blue, scorpio gemini rising - he is virgo, gemini rising):  Thanks!! IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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posted July 13, 2020 03:35 PM
Hi Sara1984,yes, those midpoint are correct, they look very intense, and you also have the ASC/DSC-IC/MC axis conjunct, Mercury-Vertex conjunct Vertex-Uranus, and other strong nodal contacts involving Juno... you can basically read each other's mind, and feel this meeting is strongly fated and binding right away. With the Mars/Jupiter opposition square his nodes the sense of destiny is also empowered, you can have the feeling to belong together at first sight. With his Sun/Vesta conjunct your Juno/Vesta in 5th house, he might see you as his ideal woman and feels immediately affectionate and close to you. Your South Node is conjunct his Juno in 6th house, so you also have a strong familiar feeling as if you know this person deeply already. Your Saturn is square his IC, this suggests again a strong closeness and familiarity, but you might be prone to a more analytic attitude and to keep your excitement under control and to take your time in a cautious way, maybe cause as you said he's not your type. You have a Mars/Pluto square, this is a strong sexual aspect but also a little aggressive which might arise fights and arguments.
Post also a Composite if you can.
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Sara1984
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Registered: Nov 2019
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posted July 13, 2020 03:49 PM
Ciao Stoika!! thank you so much <3 I don't know how we didn't see this connection before.. we have known each other for almost 10 years! Here is the composite:
 And here the Davison chart:
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Stoika7
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posted July 13, 2020 07:19 PM
Hey, ciao Sara!! Ma come è andata a finire poi la tua storia "impossibile"...? :-)This Composite chart is very intense again, the Sun/Venus/Saturn/Mercury stellium and Pluto/Moon/Juno, it all in the 5th house, sextile Neptune in 7th house, mmh, big romance :-D
The Mars-Jupiter opposition makes it all quite intriguing, there might be a constant inspiration, curiosity and growing attraction, once the intensity starts, it seems not stopping anymore, and your differences might be something nurturing your intimacy rather than becoming divisive. With North Node trine to Mars-Jupiter, this dynamic becomes strongly motivational in keeping to build a constantly inspiring bond.
The YOD formed by Chiron in 12th house/Neptune/Pluto-Moon and Uranus as a midpoint is "weird"... a subtle subconscious obsession might arise here, where a sense of strong intimacy and closeness is never really fulfilled and a lot of "mysterious" behaviours or unsaid feelings might become "disturbing". There is especially something unsolved that might never get completely clear, or... this all configuration might look like a hidden passionate secret affair with all the harsh psychological struggles it could bring. IP: Logged |
Sara1984
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From: Italia
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posted July 13, 2020 08:09 PM
Always.. a mess! XD My "old" special man is still there .. we look at each other but nothing more! I tried to smile or show me quite and friendly but nothing.. it seems that he doesn't want to talk to me! There is always a sort of anxiety between us.. I begin to think that (unfortunately) it will remain a purely platonic relationship  This virgo guy is a super friend (they play together in a tribute band) of my current partner (and also is an ex of my dear friend) so I laughed badly at your "hidden passionate secret affair".. (ci mancava anche questa!! Questo 2020 non fa altro che migliorare XD). This connection is strong, Stoika .. perhaps even more than my "old man", which I have idealized at the highest levels. A week ago I sent him a message apologizing for my coldness for the condolences because in these occasions I am very reserved and sentitive but in reality I often think if he is fine. He replied saying "I had already understood everything". Two nights ago we met and he hugged me tight and said "See, If it wasn't yesterday it's today" and gave me a kiss on the lips (not frech kiss, just a sweet kiss on the lips). I was stunned. I didn't even have time to react or tell him something. He turned around and went to talk to his friends.. Later, I said goodbye to him and I took his hand and he reply holding mine very tightly .. I don't know.. but it's not something you do with a simple friend. And now I can't stop thinking about that fact. :O IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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From: Rome, Italy
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posted July 13, 2020 08:33 PM
I understand why you laughed badly :-D what I meant is that the YOD looks like something very powerful is lurking but hard to be expressed, or maybe forbidden...? and expressed in a subtle way which might be disturbing or confusing somehow... ? So those "intimate/tender" behaviours of his leaving you stunned might be that ?
In any case, it seems (again!) so intense but in a difficult context, doesn't it?
Compared to the other very platonic relationship, this one looks much more "real" and physical (it doesnt look SO otherwordly and "unattainable" like that one), but something might be between the two and can hinder a full expression of that intense and somehow timeless binding intimacy (Sun conjunct Venus and Saturn, and Moon conjunct Pluto/Juno !). If that YOD wasnt there, I would have said right away that this one could be "the one". IP: Logged |
Sara1984
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From: Italia
Registered: Nov 2019
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posted July 13, 2020 08:51 PM
Yes I understand what you mean .. apparently I don't like simple things/relationship! XDIs there a possibility that the YOD could be a BOOMERANG (Striving Figure)? Graham told me about this pattern that I have in my birth chart:  IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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posted July 13, 2020 09:08 PM
Oh cavoli...! :-DWell, interesting. In your natal, Chiron and the YOD points to the fact that in relationship matters you might find hard to fully express your feelings starting from... to yourself. This means that you might not always have clear what you feel or that even in front of real happyness you might "deny" it to yourself and might not allow yourself to enjoy it or to fully express it.
Of course our natal charts aspects can be reflected in the Composite as being midpoints with the other person's aspects, as much as it actually happens in reality... In this case, the context looks actually difficult, given the close connections you have explained with your actual partner and other friends... but of course our subconscious dynamics might "create" intense situations in such a difficult context because, for instance, we might need to get aware of what is not actually working (in our life/relationships) in that context and so our subconscious is attracted to that challenge of fate...? just guessing..... (otherwise, what did you mean by "boomerang"?) IP: Logged |
Sara1984
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From: Italia
Registered: Nov 2019
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posted July 13, 2020 09:25 PM
Cara mia.. everything you said makes sense! Basically I don't want leave my partner (that I adore but maybe I don't love him anymore) just because I don't want to make anyone suffer again (me, him and my parents). XD. Here is Graham's explanation of the boomerang / yod pattern: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/025772.html Grazie come sempre per il tuo aiuto <3 IP: Logged |
Stoika7
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From: Rome, Italy
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posted July 13, 2020 09:46 PM
Well, that is a Chiron in 12th house (or Pisces Chiron) trait (sacrifice in order to not make others unahappy)... in Gemini, it is your true-self expression that is being sacrificed... but of course, a 12th house Chiron doesnt feel it as "sacrifice", but as an higher good.of course in reality things are much more complicated than this! :-s Thank you for the good reading of the other post! I dont think this is a "projection", though, in this new Composite case... I think there are true aspects of intimate "synergy" with this person, and a true challenging context. Maybe, your 12th house Chiron here is how you intimately perceive the challenge and how you will react to this... Keep me updated!! ❤️
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Sara1984
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From: Italia
Registered: Nov 2019
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posted July 14, 2020 08:02 AM
Grazie per le tue parole <3Maybe I'll see him Thursday night. The other night he was a fool to kiss me in the middle of the club, all our friends were there. I'm a little scared of his.. "spontaneity".. oh well, we'll see! A presto! Baci! IP: Logged | |
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