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Topic: Nessus & Juno synastry
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livvywatermonkey Knowflake Posts: 84 From: Registered: Jan 2020
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posted September 01, 2020 05:45 PM
Hello friends, [img] [/img] His Nessus conjunct my Chiron My Nessus conjunct his Pluto My Pluto opposite his Chiron His Juno conjunct my Ascendant My Juno/Sun/Moon trine his Jupiter Does this dynamic sound too intense/painful for words? Could it represent a working out of our shadows in relationship, or is that less likely? Thanks IP: Logged |
AQUACap88 Knowflake Posts: 261 From: United Kingdom Registered: Jun 2020
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posted September 02, 2020 01:16 AM
With the Nessus, it could be a potentially abusive relationship from him towards you and bringing and triggering a lot of pain (conjunct to Chiron) for you. Is Nessus strong in his natal chart? Or yours?I would be very cautious xx IP: Logged |
livvywatermonkey Knowflake Posts: 84 From: Registered: Jan 2020
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posted September 02, 2020 03:35 AM
Thanks Aqua From what I can tell it’s not strong in either of our natals, at least in the sense of not being heavily aspected, but his Nessus conjunct Chiron falls in my 8th ... I know I’m open to sexual chemistry which involves playing with mine & the other’s shadow nature, so I wondered if there need not be a power imbalance between us in general, though we both have Nessus strongly aspecting sensitive points in each other’s chart, & whether it’s possible “activated themes” could be “consciously limited” to the plane/sphere of physical intimacy, should we both get to the place where we want to engage in that way And I wondered if the Juno & Jupiter aspects combined would give the interaction more of a balanced flavour too IP: Logged |
sidneyprescott Newflake Posts: 8 From: Registered: Jul 2020
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posted September 02, 2020 04:00 AM
quote: Originally posted by livvywatermonkey: Hello friends, [img]https://i.postimg.cc/mgttDpbL/913-E4-B19-E004-4-DA1-89-B0-0-E144-E7-A64-E8.jpg[/img] His Nessus conjunct my Chiron My Nessus conjunct his Pluto My Pluto opposite his Chiron His Juno conjunct my Ascendant My Juno/Sun/Moon trine his Jupiter Does this dynamic sound too intense/painful for words? Could it represent a working out of our shadows in relationship, or is that less likely? Thanks
Hi Livvywatermonkey! I just did an intense research on Nessus in synastry because I found my Nessus conjuncts two other people’s planets and here’s my opinion on any Nessus conjunction. If the Nessus person means well then they won’t hurt the other. Yes, potential might be there (hypothetically) but I think it all depends on the complete chart of the individual. However, if the relationship/friendship fails Nessus might (I almost think WILL) act so be careful. Chiron wants/needs/supports healing and Nessus destroys/abuses.. so just be aware.
How would you describe the interactions between you? Are there moments where you feel like you abuse each other in any way? Also, I’ve seen Juno...Juno is a tough one...It forgives and forgives and forgives. It can be so sweet you hate it but you also can’t hurt it. Juno I think adds to the reason some people stay in relationships they should get out of. IP: Logged |
livvywatermonkey Knowflake Posts: 84 From: Registered: Jan 2020
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posted September 02, 2020 06:55 AM
Thanks for info sidneyprescott I don’t feel our dynamic is abusive, but I don’t know how to navigate the depths of feeling being activated on my side. I’m trying to move through my anxieties as quickly as possible, because I can see how I’m automatically mapping my anxieties into our situation ... I’m enjoying the challenge of going deeper in myself, but feeling out of my depth also feels scary in the moment. For me this is just psychological/emotional dynamics at play now, but it feels healing to me to have the opportunity of working through my issues almost at the same time as they’re being activated IP: Logged |
AQUACap88 Knowflake Posts: 261 From: United Kingdom Registered: Jun 2020
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posted September 02, 2020 08:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by livvywatermonkey: Thanks for info sidneyprescott I don’t feel our dynamic is abusive, but I don’t know how to navigate the depths of feeling being activated on my side. I’m trying to move through my anxieties as quickly as possible, because I can see how I’m automatically mapping my anxieties into our situation ... I’m enjoying the challenge of going deeper in myself, but feeling out of my depth also feels scary in the moment. For me this is just psychological/emotional dynamics at play now, but it feels healing to me to have the opportunity of working through my issues almost at the same time as they’re being activated
His nessus conjunct your chiron falling in the 8th house have the potential of being "hidden". He may be abusing you but you may be ignorant of it/the signs I.e thinking it's normal With the juno pairing, there's a chance of it being balanced or becoming very bad e.g you may be more forgiving of him, blame yourself, more tolerant of his nessus etc. Thinking you are 100% for your pain (which was inflicted by him yet owned by you 100%). This is not right as you would not be going through that kind of pain if it weren't for him. On a different note, if this relationship truly feels *magical* yet with such a synastry, I'd look into the possibility of it being *karmic* as you said "feels healing to me to have the opportunity of working through my issues almost at the same time as they’re being activated". Just note that while he activates your issues for you to work through, it is also unlikely to last. He might be here just to hurt you (hence trigger your issues), "wake" you up so you can heal everything once and for all and then leave. This is an option. You can also choose to activate your own issues yourself and heal much more gently, all by yourself or through therapy. It is really your choice. I.e would you rather be shocked awake or be nudged awake gently?
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livvywatermonkey Knowflake Posts: 84 From: Registered: Jan 2020
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posted September 02, 2020 05:58 PM
Good points, thank you Aqua nudged awake gently sounds better ... yours & sidneyprescott’s point about Juno representing forgiveness is interesting I thought of Juno being more about equality of partnership but the forgiveness point resonates more with me now. Thank you IP: Logged |
AQUACap88 Knowflake Posts: 261 From: United Kingdom Registered: Jun 2020
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posted September 02, 2020 08:03 PM
Hello, I believe my and sidneyprescott’s point on Juno representing forgiveness stemmed from Juno forgiving Jupiter's infidelity on multiple occasions Here is a link I found rather quickly: http://www.elitedaily.com/p/what-does-juno-mean-in-astrology-w hat-it-reveals-about-who-youll-end-up-with-8137609 You may want to read up more about the relationship between Juno and Jupiter to understand your dynamics with this guy better It's really not rainbows and butterflies, sadly IP: Logged |
livvywatermonkey Knowflake Posts: 84 From: Registered: Jan 2020
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posted September 03, 2020 07:29 PM
That’s so interesting xD My natal Juno is in Pisces which apparently makes me prone to delusion with my romantic interests, or to loving addicts ... but my progressed Juno is in Aries. His natal Juno is in Saggitarius & progressed Juno in Capricorn I think my progressed Juno in Aries & his natal Juno in Capricorn perfectly expresses the awkwardness of my fearing but also desiring being controlled IP: Logged |
Dwhelps Knowflake Posts: 69 From: Registered: Jul 2020
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posted September 04, 2020 09:37 PM
Hi! I notice his Neptune is quite near your ASC too... the Neptune could potentially create a sort of fogginess/psychological/emotional component to your dynamic. You may idealize him a bit. With the Nessus dynamics there... that may be a little tricky. About the Nessus... it does look like an intense relationship.... his Nessus conj your Chiron exactly... your Nessus conj his Pluto... I think what sidneyprescott said is true - I’ve seen it in my own dynamics. If the Nessus person has a lot of self control it may not play out but that energy is there in the dynamic. In the beginning it can manifest as a sort of sexiness. It can be very magnetic. Esp since here it is dw, and both Pluto and Chiron are a bit elusive... If the rs fails, (at least in my experience) the Nessus tends to act out badly. The dynamic is usually still there though.... do you notice it? As for what AQUA mentioned. I think it’s true... he activates your Chiron and your wound/issues involved there...which is in the 8th house.... the house of sex.... so I’d be pretty cautious there. I also see that his Sun is oppose your Mercury.... In general, my impression is that I’d exercise caution with this relationship. With the Neptune aspect and Nessus aspecting your Chiron.... and your natal Sun-Moon-Juno in Pisces... I‘d be a little wary.... like what AQUA said I would probably think about healing in other ways than through this dynamic... IP: Logged |
livvywatermonkey Knowflake Posts: 84 From: Registered: Jan 2020
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posted September 08, 2020 11:09 PM
@Dwhelps I do notice the potential in our dynamic for a sense of him “taking me captive” ... but in a way that could actually help me feel very safe & contained I do find him alluring & a powerful personality, “magnetic”, but very calm & collected on the surface, like the captor archetype is a shadow not his surface archetype. I tend to identify strongly with people’s unconscious but he is much more awakened than most people I feel to his unconscious & that is what I find intriguing & captivating I think my Juno in Aries means I won’t stand for being controlled in everyday life, though I wouldn’t mind if that dynamic is present in the erotic dimension of the atmosphere around our relationship ... though I agree with your word about taking caution I think my qualms have arisen through not understanding whether his progressed Juno in Capricorn energy would extend to treating me like a child in everyday life ... yes I want him to be protective of me but not in the sense of being like my parent as I find that dynamic the opposite of sensual IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 131600 From: From a galaxy, far, far away... Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 18, 2020 02:26 PM
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