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Sinder
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posted October 20, 2020 10:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lets see,

What have you experienced? I have recently came to understand more about this fated point.

Have some major connections regardging it with their Venus conj my Vertex, which lasted for years.

Anyone have, or had connection with your Vertex with their Sun, moon, Mars, Pluto, Venus?

What about the other way around? (meaning their vertex and your planets).

What about Vertex Conjunct Vertex.

And what about Squres to Vertex?
And conj to Vertex from nessue of another?

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MonteCristo
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posted October 20, 2020 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MonteCristo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I’m also curious about this! Including transits to natal vertex!

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skynote
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posted October 20, 2020 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A guy I liked for years has his sun tightly conjunct my vertex (< 1 degree). In turn, his anti-vertex is conjunct my Moon and Venus (which is another way of saying his vertex opposes both those planets of mine). We're good friends and are from the same town.

I can't speak for his end with the anti-vertex, but for my vertex...I caught feelings early on, despite telling myself otherwise. I'd always known who he was but our last year of high school I went from never speaking to him to suddenly having over half my classes with him.

We clicked off the bat -- and it's hard for me to click with most people. I was thrown by how much I was into him; It also was the first time I felt I had an "attainable crush", meaning I was actually speaking with this person, comfortable with this person, they knew I existed, etc. But timing wasn't in our favor, since we were graduating and heading to college, he didn't date, I didn't date. Despite moving towns, developing other crushes, going on dates, my feelings always fell back on him, whether I wanted them to or not. It felt...never-ending. Exhausting.

I'd be lying if I said that I hadn't thought we were "meant to be" (noting more on our synastry: his Mars and Venus fall in my 7H and our ASC/ASC are opposed), esp. since I felt there was mutual interest on his end. Basically I waited 3.5 years before I finally racked up the guts to tell him I was interested. Results were ultimately no, he wasn't ready for any relationship and we agreed I should move on. (I've answered this in another thread, but this relates to the vertex...I don't think it's a coincidence that on the day I confessed my feelings to him, the transiting moon was conjunct my vertex plus mercury was transiting the third house. Moon is our emotions/vulnerability, Mercury was in its home of communication...).

The fallout of that experience hurt a lot, and it was a transforming experience for me. I don't regret it or hold any grudges towards him. I view that day as a fateful one because in the long-run it really helped me grow for the better: it pushed me to determine what exactly I wanted out of relationships, what my relationship was with myself (confidence), and it changed how I wanted to approach relationships and handle rejection in the future.

But it really took me a while to move on, not gonna lie. I clung to the hope that one day he'd come around and tell me he was "ready"...at the same time, I knew I couldn't put my life on hold for one person. I hated the idea of moving on because I'd invested all this time, these feelings -- but that point it becomes a slippery slope. Honestly when I look back at it, I was afraid to move on because I'd felt so familiar with those feelings and that, if I let go, I wouldn't know who I was. Which is crazy (!!!!) but that's really just how deep I was, I suppose.

But yeah, all in all, definitely think sun-vertex is a fateful encounter to have in synastry. The vertex is a point of "fate", but whether it's good or bad, you never know, but you'll definitely feel something or learn from it.

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Sinder
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posted October 20, 2020 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats intense..

How many degrees were your Venus and moon from his Anti-vertext? Was the timing very accurate for his birth?
Because Moon/venus on antivertex supposed to be really intense for him as well.

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skynote
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posted October 20, 2020 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sinder:
How many degrees were your Venus and moon from his Anti-vertext? Was the timing very accurate for his birth?
Because Moon/venus on antivertex supposed to be really intense for him as well.

According to Astro.com it's a 2 degree orb for his vertex opposing my Venus and Moon (both those planets of mine are very conjunct) -- so again, fairly tight. I'm pretty confident of his birth time, since I'd sent a Human Design form to a bunch of my friends (which requires your birth time, similar to natal charts). All of them gave specific birth times/no rounding.

I haven't looked too much into moon/venus conjunct the anti-vertex, mainly because I've found little out there to explain it.

I forgot about this, but looking at our chart -- his Chiron and Sun are natally conjunct... so his Chiron is also conjunct my vertex by about 2 degrees. I'm honestly not entirely sure what that means, but I imagine the words "karmic" and "healing" aren't too far off lol

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posted October 21, 2020 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sky in one of the sites it says the venus person would love the vertex person.

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posted October 23, 2020 08:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone else? What about Squares to the vertex?

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posted October 23, 2020 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for virgoscorpio     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My vertex is exactly conjunct my husband’s ascendant and the first time I met him I knew he was the one for me.

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posted October 23, 2020 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for skynote     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sinder:
Sky in one of the sites it says the venus person would love the vertex person.

Well I am the Venus, though calling it "love"...I hesitate on that. Or I'd say it's a good friendship love. In hindsight, many of my synastry placements in his houses aren't as romantic, it was more of his placements into my houses (Mars/Venus in my 7th, 5th Moon) that impacted me. Plus that vertex/venus aspect is just one aspect without considering the rest of our chart/individual ones. Regardless, I'm happy with where I am now in terms of romance, and also content being friends with him

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posted October 23, 2020 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by skynote:
A guy I liked for years has his sun tightly conjunct my vertex (< 1 degree). In turn, his anti-vertex is conjunct my Moon and Venus (which is another way of saying his vertex opposes both those planets of mine). We're good friends and are from the same town.

I can't speak for his end with the anti-vertex, but for my vertex...I caught feelings early on, despite telling myself otherwise. I'd always known who he was but our last year of high school I went from never speaking to him to suddenly having over half my classes with him.

We clicked off the bat -- and it's hard for me to click with most people. I was thrown by how much I was into him; It also was the first time I felt I had an "attainable crush", meaning I was actually speaking with this person, comfortable with this person, they knew I existed, etc. But timing wasn't in our favor, since we were graduating and heading to college, he didn't date, I didn't date. Despite moving towns, developing other crushes, going on dates, my feelings always fell back on him, whether I wanted them to or not. It felt...never-ending. Exhausting.

I'd be lying if I said that I hadn't thought we were "meant to be" (noting more on our synastry: his Mars and Venus fall in my 7H and our ASC/ASC are opposed), esp. since I felt there was mutual interest on his end. Basically I waited 3.5 years before I finally racked up the guts to tell him I was interested. Results were ultimately no, he wasn't ready for any relationship and we agreed I should move on. (I've answered this in another thread, but this relates to the vertex...I don't think it's a coincidence that on the day I confessed my feelings to him, the transiting moon was conjunct my vertex plus mercury was transiting the third house. Moon is our emotions/vulnerability, Mercury was in its home of communication...).

The fallout of that experience hurt a lot, and it was a transforming experience for me. I don't regret it or hold any grudges towards him. I view that day as a fateful one because in the long-run it really helped me grow for the better: it pushed me to determine what exactly I wanted out of relationships, what my relationship was with myself (confidence), and it changed how I wanted to approach relationships and handle rejection in the future.

But it really took me a while to move on, not gonna lie. I clung to the hope that one day he'd come around and tell me he was "ready"...at the same time, I knew I couldn't put my life on hold for one person. I hated the idea of moving on because I'd invested all this time, these feelings -- but that point it becomes a slippery slope. Honestly when I look back at it, I was afraid to move on because I'd felt so familiar with those feelings and that, if I let go, I wouldn't know who I was. Which is crazy (!!!!) but that's really just how deep I was, I suppose.

But yeah, all in all, definitely think sun-vertex is a fateful encounter to have in synastry. The vertex is a point of "fate", but whether it's good or bad, you never know, but you'll definitely feel something or learn from it.


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You story is so spot on.the vertex is associated with intense feelings that can seem fated or even supernatural.
But just as you related the vertex energy often does not develop the way one would think or hope and many times in failed vertex relationships or even with no relationship,one can become me obsessed.consumingly obsessive.


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Sinder
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posted October 24, 2020 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sinder     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Tod.
Yeah I was obsessed with someone for 4 years he was the venus I was the vertex.

Anything regarding square to vertex?
Especially moon pluto
And then another is mars
I remember a thread about it with Aubynne .. but I can’t remember

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todd
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posted October 24, 2020 07:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Squares to the vertex are fairly straightforward. It brings intensity but not so much of the karma thing.
Though node square to the vertex does amplify the otherworldly/psychic energy.by it self this cross gives very strong psychic energy but it can be very obtuse and difficult to apply to ones life.but one can expect unusual/paranormal experiences or feeling .this is most pronounced if one the node/vertex axis are on the arc or Mc.

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posted October 25, 2020 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Vertex in late Sagittarius, in my 5th House.

So far I haven't noticed any particularly strong, recurring patterns with it synastrically.

I had an unusual, and somewhat spiritually intense connection with a woman who had Sagittarius Rising with late Sag Jup and early Cap Saturn conjunct her late Sag Rising. These were fairly close to my vertex.

It was a completely platonic connection, and she was a couple to few decades older than me. At some point earlier in our friendship, she had spontaneous visions/remembrances during meditation of being my mother in Egypt during a mutual past life. Before that, a little while into our friendship, I decided to share a pic of myself with her. I didn't hear anything back for a bit, but when she got back to me, she was pretty dramatic, and she said something like, "what, were you trying to give me a heart attack or something?!"

I was completely confused and was like, Huh? She explained, a few years before we met, she was meditating, and a man, she swears, fully materialized in her room right in front of her, smiled, and then immediately left. She said my pic looked exactly like the man who had showed up and she was very surprised by that.

If it was connected to me, then it was either future me, or part of my Expanded self, because I don't remember doing that consciously. I believe and know such is possible, but consciously speaking, I don't think I'm at the point where I can do things like that (consciously and in a personality sense). Might be different for my Soul, and definitely so for my Expanded/Spirit self level.

This is the pic I had sent her:
http://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lm3R0Vi0ctmTtbqRqnBPeuluzg9-BhxQ/view?usp=sharing

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posted October 25, 2020 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Somna7H     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Vertex Conjunct my IC in Synastry.
What results we can expect ?

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todd
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posted October 25, 2020 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion:
I have Vertex in late Sagittarius, in my 5th House.

So far I haven't noticed any particularly strong, recurring patterns with it synastrically.

I had an unusual, and somewhat spiritually intense connection with a woman who had Sagittarius Rising with late Sag Jup and early Cap Saturn conjunct her late Sag Rising. These were fairly close to my vertex.

It was a completely platonic connection, and she was a couple to few decades older than me. At some point earlier in our friendship, she had spontaneous visions/remembrances during meditation of being my mother in Egypt during a mutual past life. Before that, a little while into our friendship, I decided to share a pic of myself with her. I didn't hear anything back for a bit, but when she got back to me, she was pretty dramatic, and she said something like, "what, were you trying to give me a heart attack or something?!"

I was completely confused and was like, Huh? She explained, a few years before we met, she was meditating, and a man, she swears, fully materialized in her room right in front of her, smiled, and then immediately left. She said my pic looked exactly like the man who had showed up and she was very surprised by that.

If it was connected to me, then it was either future me, or part of my Expanded self, because I don't remember doing that consciously. I believe and know such is possible, but consciously speaking, I don't think I'm at the point where I can do things like that (consciously and in a personality sense). Might be different for my Soul, and definitely so for my Expanded/Spirit self level.

This is the pic I had sent her:
http://drive.google.com/file/d/1Lm3R0Vi0ctmTtbqRqnBPeuluzg9-BhxQ/view?usp=sharing


Have looked at the composite node and vertex for this woman.also did she remember the time of her vision.because the vertex is pure energy any aspects especially exact aspects are significant.

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posted October 25, 2020 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for todd     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aspects ,natal or transit are energized by the vertex.just the placement may not give specific experience.but in general, your ADP CTS suggest that your home life and prkfessional I've has has a few unusual turns.but with the unpredictability of the vertex,situations may have occurred that you first thought would as significantly affect you but then did not pan out.this position with favorable aspects might show sudden advancement,though unfavorable aspects could show the opposite.
It

The vertex is the most cosmic of symbols so it is very difficult predict what earth plane occurrence or phenomena will occur

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GalacticCoreExplosion
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posted October 26, 2020 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This happened like 14 years ago, and we haven't been in touch for a long time.

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