posted October 04, 2021 07:31 PM            

An old flame has popped back into my mind during covid for a while now, and I can’t seem to shake it. I’m thinking it’s due to still needing to heal from it now that I have had some down time and isolation. Or maybe just pure loneliness who knows. I’ve included our synastry and composite with transits if anyone would like to take a look!

This happened a few years back, someone I never officially dated but we were in a casual on/off thing that stretched about 5 years. Probably something my aqua DC was comfortable with haha. Thank you in advance to anyone who can shed some light on why this has been on my mind so often (including dreams) and curious of thoughts on the synastry.

(I’m inside they are outside & FYI I don’t know their birth time)
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posted October 04, 2021 10:11 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi lovely MMarie!!! So good to hear from you 💙

I'm looking at the Composite and... wow, I understand why this old flame comes back to you, Vertex conjunct Juno opposite Jupiter, this looks like you're married in another dimension, parallel universe or so! But clearly it was very unstable with Jupiter quincunx to Uranus/Saturn/DSC, there's a strong emotional bond but at the same time circumstances in life didn't allow a long term committment... Saturn retrograde in the 8th house has gone through Pluto, the nodal transit is square to Ceres and transiting Juno is square to the Nodes, to me this explains such nostalgic thoughts and the difficulties to let this go at this moment... I think you may re-connect with this person next year, when transiting nodes hit the Juno/Jupiter opposition, with Vertex involved it looks quite fated... Maybe you need to "solve" something once and for all with this person. The YOD suggests that the instability of the relationship will hardly never change...

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Hi Stoika! So nice to hear from you too!! How are you doing?? Considering all that has been going on. 😄

Thank you for taking the time to look this over. Since I do not know his birth time, unfortunately, the houses and vertex do not count. But I did find the Jupiter opposite Juno interesting and have a feeling we may have shared a past life of some sort together with his south node on my IC in synastry. Thank you for shining light on the unstableness of the Jupiter quincunxes which probably reflect some unstableness in the synastry. Maybe the Ceres/Juno square to the nodes are giving rose colored glasses and making me romanticize it more than I should (there were some bad aspects to this r.s too). It would be very interesting if we do reconnect at some point! Some resolution is probably needed whether it’s from reconnecting or I do it on my own.

posted October 04, 2021 11:13 PM            

...but still, the Juno/Jupiter opposition trine/sextile to the Sun looks quite significant, in terms of potential intimacy and committment, at least on an idealistic plane... and look at the Eros/Psyche midpoint conjunct to Juno and Jupiter !! The soulmate feeling is/was certainly there...

Saturn conjunct Uranus on its own looks a bit unstable, let alone quincunx to Jupiter...

It seems to me that Saturn retrograde is going through your North Node/DSC opposite Venus, isnt it? along tr. Jupiter retrograde in your 7th house opposite your Sun/Moon... this is also why you may be "reviewing" your romantic past. This would suggest that you may need such a resolution on your own, but with those nodal transits next year I would not rule out a re-connection :-)

posted October 05, 2021 09:32 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Oh my, I am so absent-minded 😱 It's mercury retrograde, right? 😂

...but still, the Juno/Jupiter opposition trine/sextile to the Sun looks quite significant, in terms of potential intimacy and committment, at least on an idealistic plane... and look at the Eros/Psyche midpoint conjunct to Juno and Jupiter !! The soulmate feeling is/was certainly there...

Saturn conjunct Uranus on its own looks a bit unstable, let alone quincunx to Jupiter...

It seems to me that Saturn retrograde is going through your North Node/DSC opposite Venus, isnt it? along tr. Jupiter retrograde in your 7th house opposite your Sun/Moon... this is also why you may be "reviewing" your romantic past. This would suggest that you may need such a resolution on your own, but with those nodal transits next year I would not rule out a re-connection :-)

I'm doing so-so, let's say ok, just yeah... the times we're going through are pretty upsetting... !! Big hugs ❤️

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Yes, this Mercury retrograde seems to be particularly tricky! Haha 😉

Oh I didn’t even notice the Eros/Psyche midpoint to Jupiter! And yes there was a definite unstableness but for an oddly long run which makes sense with Saturn/Uranus.

Interesting about the transits could be pointing to reviewing the romantic past, because I have been thinking more in depth about why I attract certain people, how I act in relationships etc. I really thought it was the pandemic giving extra downtime, but the transits definitely explain some.

Let’s me know if I can pull some cards for you. I haven’t read much in a while (just a heads up to take it with a grain of salt haha) but if there is anything you would like to ask, I’d love to try and help!

posted October 05, 2021 09:36 AM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Interesting way to put that. 🤔 For alt-dimensional connections and events, I tend to check the Sidereal and Draco against the Tropical. If there are hits there, then definitely.

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posted October 05, 2021 03:22 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
Yes, this Mercury retrograde seems to be particularly tricky! Haha 😉

Oh I didn’t even notice the Eros/Psyche midpoint to Jupiter! And yes there was a definite unstableness but for an oddly long run which makes sense with Saturn/Uranus.

Interesting about the transits could be pointing to reviewing the romantic past, because I have been thinking more in depth about why I attract certain people, how I act in relationships etc. I really thought it was the pandemic giving extra downtime, but the transits definitely explain some.

Let’s me know if I can pull some cards for you. I haven’t read much in a while (just a heads up to take it with a grain of salt haha) but if there is anything you would like to ask, I’d love to try and help!

Hugs Stoika! ❤️ And hoping for better times ahead!

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Yeah, to me the transits picture in your 7th house matches your romantic reviewing a lot! But Saturn and Jupiter are going direct (finally!) so maybe you're going to "make peace" with this process and to be ready to move on pretty soon :-)) Keep me updated!

Oh thank you so much for your lovely offer of tarot reading!! I trust your reading so much, you have powerful psychic abilities!!
The thing is that I am still obsessed by the same old question (and person, lol), and especially lately I'm obsessed again by the question on if/when I'll be able to meet J again and give him the book that I have finally translated... which is the main reason why I have done the endless translation job. but the whole covid situation makes almost impossible for me to be able to travel to UK (I'm not vaxxed, I can't do this for health reasons and I especially don't want to!)... so my "burning" question would be always the same, will I be able to meet J in a not too far future (or ever again)? Only if and when you feel like it! Let me know if you want to do this on the Personal Reading forum, or in this thread (doesnt make any difference to me). 🙏🙏🙏💙💙💙

posted October 05, 2021 04:44 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Yeah, to me the transits picture in your 7th house matches your romantic reviewing a lot! But Saturn and Jupiter are going direct (finally!) so maybe you're going to "make peace" with this process and to be ready to move on pretty soon :-)) Keep me updated!

Oh thank you so much for your lovely offer of tarot reading!! I trust your reading so much, you have powerful psychic abilities!!
The thing is that I am still obsessed by the same old question (and person, lol), and especially lately I'm obsessed again by the question on if/when I'll be able to meet J again and give him the book that I have finally translated... which is the main reason why I have done the endless translation job. but the whole covid situation makes almost impossible for me to be able to travel to UK (I'm not vaxxed, I can't do this for health reasons and I especially don't want to!)... so my "burning" question would be always the same, will I be able to meet J in a not too far future (or ever again)? Only if and when you feel like it! Let me know if you want to do this on the Personal Reading forum, or in this thread (doesnt make any difference to me). 🙏🙏🙏💙💙💙

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I will keep you updated for sure, and if we do happen to reconnect at some point - Thank you again!

Hoping the covid situation gets better soon so you are able to travel again. Although things are getting better there are still many restrictions unfortunately.

posted October 05, 2021 05:50 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
Thank you Aubyanne! I’ll definitely check those out. Do you look at the crossover sidereal/Draco composite to tropical natal, sidereal/Draco natal to tropical composite etc.? Or only natal to natal and composite to composite?

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Pretty much anything that strikes. It’s as intuitive for me now as it’s calculated. If there’s an obvious synastric theme in the Tropical, and hints to there being karmic contracts or a soul connection, I head to the Sidereal or Draco depending. For me, it creates an energetic chain — as if all three are working together in the same space. Such as a Tropical conjunction is ‘defined’ by a Sidereal point occupying that space, or is ‘destined’ by a link to the Draco operating similarly.

I agree that the Draco can yield who and what we’ve ‘been’ as well, but unlike the Sidereal, this is completely constructed from the NNODE energy; it’s the soul’s idealised, evolutionary state — where it’s aiming to go. So we aren’t liable to find karmic contracts here. IF we’ve got a Draco/Sidereal overlay that’s pretty tight, that’s pointing to an issue that’s gotta be resolved before the ‘desired state’ is attainable. A bit like a goal post. The Tropical then offers us practical direction in our getting there, similar to a roadmap.

It’s hardly always so easily discerned or ascertained — believe me, I know! 😂 But I’ve found this to be a helpful method to encompass what can VERY quickly be an overwhelming amount of energies — many of which may just be dead ends as it were, or prove irrelevant.

As to the Composite, that’s a whole different deal. I’m of the (hard won) opinion that it’s not always active, and not necessarily all of its parts. Ideally, since we’re in the physical realm, we gotta operate with the Tropical. In the event we ARE aware of our higher states, and mutually so, we can begin to see how we ‘interact’ as a ‘couple’ on a karmic level, as well as reaching the pinnacle of our soul contract’s intent.

That IS where it can get hairy, and pretty quickly. We’re bringing in influences from different realms that aren’t as accessible to us as THIS one, here in the physical, so our purpose is everything.

Do we wanna see what the ‘soul purpose’ is behind the more mundane setup? Or what karmic debts and conflicts we’ve been wrestling with together? So we’d overlay the Draco and Sidereal respectively.

But here’s the tricky part. We’re just layering. We’re adding (literal) dimension to the interaction experienced by these two (for now, heh) souls embodied in human lives. It’s a vehicle — but no engine. It can’t DO anything. Not on its own.

So we bring back in the most conscious experience — our Tropical synastry — to see what we’re ‘pulling in’ from these other dimensions. Just like we ‘activate’ certain parts of the Composite individually, or experience it through transit or progressions.

And yeah, we can go a little crazy and plug in the Sidereal synastry — IF we’ve got an honest clue what it’s about, heh. And we can certainly bring in the Draco synastry — into any of the Composites — if we wanna see how our ‘actualised selves’ will affect our conscious reality experience (Tropical), our karmic contracts, conflicts, and struggles outside of this realm, including aspects of the dreamstate and 4D (Sidereal) and, finally, if we were to ‘bring Heaven on Earth’ what would that look like?

We can get pretty far out, the further we go away from the Tropical. It’s best to have some kinda direction you’re pursuing, as it’s all quite wibbly-wobbly and timey-wimey ‘out there’. 😏

But if you keep one thing in mind, generally, you’ll be ahead of the game no matter what ‘level’ you’re currently playing:

That which is constructed is a VESSEL. It does not, cannot, IMPACT on its own. It has no KINETIC FORCE. It does no ‘work’. It’s all POTENTIAL.

Composites are a construction; they’re a calculation taking the literal Midpoint of our birth dates and creating a chart. The Davison differs in that it’s an ACTUAL snapshot of time, but even then, it’s not gonna be a total match for the Composite. They both have their place.

And they DO, certainly. But that’s because of HOW they are AFFECTED. It’s not how THEY affect. They can’t impact. No force. Etcetera.

So, EACH point, EVERY aspect, of the Composite is a vessel — a point of potential — awaiting the signal to ‘do work’. And it gets that signal from ANYTHING that hits it — which is not ALSO constructed or calculated. (Sorry, BLACK MOON LILITH — I love ya too, but ya gotta have something solid behind you to do your thang.)

Meaning Composite to Composite will ALWAYS be a further layering — AND it’s gotta contain the Tropical as a base, ALWAYS, or you’re just throwing random crap at a Teflon wall. But to even start a discussion, you MUST have the synastry — meaning each natal — ‘talking’ with the Composite, in order to have ANY conversation at all.

And I’m always gonna suggest you start simple; it’s a soulmate kinda deal? See if you’re bringing in anything from either the Draco synastry or Composite — as you now know both will yield a different expression. Karmic contracts? Start with the Sidereal.

If you’ve got a lotta ‘crosstalk’ amongst the three, you’ve got a Big Deal™️. Proceed accordingly. 😉

posted October 05, 2021 06:06 PM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:
… An old flame has popped back into my mind during covid for a while now, and I can’t seem to shake it. I’m thinking it’s due to still needing to heal from it now that I have had some down time and isolation. Or maybe just pure loneliness who knows. I’ve included our synastry and composite with transits if anyone would like to take a look!

This happened a few years back, someone I never officially dated but we were in a casual on/off thing that stretched about 5 years. Probably something my aqua DC was comfortable with haha. Thank you in advance to anyone who can shed some light on why this has been on my mind so often (including dreams) and curious of thoughts on the synastry.

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Hey there, MMarie.

First things first — even at just a glance, this is intensely karmic, quite mixed up, and very painful. That’s a tough spot for the cEROS/PSYCHE Midpoint, and you’d only been able to hack it due to your MARS/VESTA placement also hovering around ALGOL. He doesn’t bring anything to it, however, and the JUPITER/JUNO opposition as mentioned by someone else, just further complicated and frustrated the issue.

So, why now? tSATURN’s been crossing back and forth over the degree of your NNODE. Check that out. It’s definitely an ‘upgrade’ in the metaphysical sphere kinda sense. Hopefully, it can help you to let this one go, and reflect upon the lessons.

His VENUS on your CHIRON so tight undoubtedly sent all the sparks flying and kicked off the soulmating. There’s just not enough ‘there’ at the end of the day to yield the kinda experience that’s likely to compel a lifetime, if you follow.

It’s mostly karmic debts and contracts, with both of you attempting to resolve a prior conflict, so you’re both able to move on.

posted October 05, 2021 06:12 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi lovely MMarie!!! So good to hear from you 💙

I'm looking at the Composite and... wow, I understand why this old flame comes back to you, Vertex conjunct Juno opposite Jupiter …

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Yeah, I feel ya, but I’m just not trusting anything beyond her VERTEX, y’know? Lacking a TOB and all. But there’s a solid link from her VX to the cSATURN — maybe the cURA, but that’s weak. No clue what house it’s in, but her natal VX is so close to the GC … it packs quite a punch!

The opp to the cPSYCHE is what I find most telling, to be honest. Square the cKARMA/MARS? So close to the Aries Point? Yeaaaahhhh. Don’t even need the houses for that one.😏

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posted October 05, 2021 07:15 PM            

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Originally posted by Aubyanne:
Yeah, I feel ya, but I’m just not trusting anything beyond her VERTEX, y’know? Lacking a TOB and all. But there’s a solid link from her VX to the cSATURN — maybe the cURA, but that’s weak. No clue what house it’s in, but her natal VX is so close to the GC … it packs quite a punch!

The opp to the cPSYCHE is what I find most telling, to be honest. Square the cKARMA/MARS? So close to the Aries Point? Yeaaaahhhh. Don’t even need the houses for that one.😏

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Man. Rough.

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Yes, I had missed the part when she says his TOB is unknown and then when realized it I said it's mercury retrograde :-))

In this case, yes, if his TOB is unknown, there's no point in Vertex, but if Vertex had been there, it would point to a huge karma :-)

Thanks for explaining your use of sideral and draconic chart compared to the composite. I actually have found that the sideal chart matches completely to the composite chart between me and my impossible love... is this just a standard outcome?

Anyway, in my experience, the Composite chart is always the more reliable as for the nature, dynamics and outcome of the relationship, even in karmic situations it can tell a lot. So in this sense I don't fully agree with you... 'cept for those cases when the two people don't really know each other, but, for instance, only through distance/online communication.

posted October 06, 2021 10:50 AM            

First off, thank you again for all you have explained above in regards to composite/synastry of Sidereal, Draco and tropical as well as giving your input on my own synastry and composite. It was a lot to take in, but I think I got the gist of it. 😁 At least for beginners like me it seems like the best thing to do first is compare the tropical (or other type) natals to each composite.

I’ve found a couple things when doing that:

-his tropical natal moon/mercury conjunct sidereal composite moon/Venus
- my tropical natal Mercury conjunct sidereal composite south node
-my tropical natal south node/Venus conjunct draco composite sun
- his tropical natal Saturn/Juno conjunct draco composite Jupiter/Juno (interesting that Jupiter and Juno conjunct exact in draco composite)

Those are just a couple things I noticed off the bat.

Now going into the assessment of our synastry/composite I definitely agree there is not enough to sustain a long term relationship (although that pains me and I don’t know why but logically know its true). It’s definitely karmic in some way, especially with his Venus on my chiron (and maybe his south node on my ic points to that too?) I thought I did move one but know deep down I did not deal with it properly, so hopefully these transits finally help with that.

I’m curious about my natal vertex conjunct the G.C, I haven’t found much out there about it…what do you think of that?

You mention my natal tropical vertex opposite composite psyche square karma/Mars - what does that mean?

Thank you for taking the time, and all of your help Aubyanne!

posted October 07, 2021 07:31 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:

Yes, I had missed the part when she says his TOB is unknown and then when realized it I said it's mercury retrograde :-))

In this case, yes, if his TOB is unknown, there's no point in Vertex, but if Vertex had been there, it would point to a huge karma :-)

Thanks for explaining your use of sideral and draconic chart compared to the composite. I actually have found that the sideal chart matches completely to the composite chart between me and my impossible love... is this just a standard outcome?

Anyway, in my experience, the Composite chart is always the more reliable as for the nature, dynamics and outcome of the relationship, even in karmic situations it can tell a lot. So in this sense I don't fully agree with you... 'cept for those cases when the two people don't really know each other, but, for instance, only through distance/online communication.

I'd be curious about your take on my Composite/Draconic chart with someone who I call "my impossible love" :-) If you're up for it let me know and I'll post my own thread for you!

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And I happened to see that only AFTER I’d made my comment about you seeing that only AFTER yours! Mercury RX, INDEED! 🤣 🤦🏻‍♀️ Mea culpa!

Yes! Please do. I’d love to see it.

posted October 08, 2021 05:04 AM            

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Originally posted by MMarie:

-his tropical natal moon/mercury conjunct sidereal composite moon/Venus

- my tropical natal Mercury conjunct sidereal composite south node

-my tropical natal south node/Venus conjunct draco composite sun

- his tropical natal Saturn/Juno conjunct draco composite Jupiter/Juno (interesting that Jupiter and Juno conjunct exact in draco composite)

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Heya, MMarie! I’m gonna take each one of those and break it down.

his tropical natal moon/mercury conjunct sidereal composite moon/Venus

Anytime we’ve got a 4D energy from the Sidereal ‘anchored’ into 3D by a Tropical placement, it becomes ‘realised’ in the physical via the embodiment OF the points or planets involved.

This, for example, is interesting as it denotes an active karmic contract between you, that originates (unless there’s evidence against it from the Draco) in an alternate lifeline interaction, as depicted by the cVENUS/cMOON. Feels a bit sisterly. That’s a potentially warm, familial, and innately feminine energy.

So he’s feeling that, on both the mental and emotional level. MERCURY can be a sibling vibe as well, interesting enough.

The debt is to talk out his emotions — to express his feelings, with an expectation they will be warmly received. And this likely stems from either his having ‘been’ a feminine being, or related directly to ‘Venusian matters’. Could be artistic, or clarified by the houses ruled by VENUS in the Sidereal Composite.

my tropical natal Mercury conjunct sidereal composite south node

This one’s especially telling. You also owe a debt related to communication, thinking, or otherwise engaging the mind. But its nature and origins are different. This was already a debt from the past, so it’s unlikely to have originated from your most recent ‘past’ interaction. Is there nothing else on the cSNODE? Typically, as the NODES do not ‘make’ aspects but only ‘receive’ them, there must be an energy with which MERCURY interacts. The SNODE simply reveals a debt, or the past experience, or ‘that which we know’ or are bringing in with us. It’s different, when it’s just one system. But when we cross the systems, we need something to activate that energy.

Maybe something is in the Tropical Composite?

my tropical natal south node/Venus conjunct draco composite sun

Same principle for this one, except we flip it. Your SNODE must ‘receive’ energy that’s already occurring at the Tropical level to be active — whether natally, or dynamically (by transit, or even progressed placement). In this case, it’s VENUS — so we’re seeing a theme emerge; feminine energy, possibly artistic, relating to pleasure, beauty, even appraisal depending upon the energy. And what’s intriguing is that it’s crossing the dimensional lines here, by involving Sidereal AND Draco, even if not concurrently.

The cSUN is the core essence, the ‘identity’ of the ‘relationship’. Thus, the d/cSUN (or Draco cSUN) is the idealised form of this energy. The ‘perfected form’ if you will. Seems there’s a debt owed here, regarding this expression — due to the nature of the SNODE. As this is at the soul level, representing the current compendium of your soul’s history (in this case, mutually, as it’s Composite) this is a clear contract to engage in this interaction — whatever the form — to satisfy a debt owed to you, specifically. You’re also the one ‘feeling it’ unless he has a similar placement.

his tropical natal Saturn/Juno conjunct draco composite Jupiter/Juno (interesting that Jupiter and Juno conjunct exact in draco composite)

There’s a bit going on with this last one; let’s break it down. So, his SAT/JUNO — already a complex energy, as it specifically relates to commitments and structure within the bounds of committed relationships — marriage, really — we’d almost say this is the ‘contract’ aspect of the ‘marriage contract’. SATURN can also restrict and limit, as well as be karmic, so there may be elements of ‘karmic marriage’ here too.

So, this conjunction is conjunct an exact conjunction of d/cJUPITER and d/cJUNO. Wow! That one’s gonna be felt on some level for sure. He’s got the capacity to ‘realise’ this energy — to manifest it into one of the mythological marriage ‘soul pairings’. That’s really something. He can quite literally anchor this energy into the Tropical via a marital contract. Pretty self explanatory. Heh. But, due to the potency of that energy, he’s likely to NOT do so AT ALL lightly. It’s a very thorough, extremely critical, mature energy that’s either in it all the way, or not at all. Very little wiggle room there.

What are the aspects being made to that one? Any?

posted October 09, 2021 09:20 AM            

Thank you again for taking the time to answer my questions! Here my response:

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Is there nothing else on the cSNODE? Typically, as the NODES do not ‘make’ aspects but only ‘receive’ them, there must be an energy with which MERCURY interacts. The SNODE simply reveals a debt, or the past experience, or ‘that which we know’ or are bringing in with us. It’s different, when it’s just one system. But when we cross the systems, we need something to activate that energy.

My response:
I noticed as well his natal Jupiter is conjunct sidereal composite north node (opposite south node). My natal karma asteroid widely conjunct his Jupiter.

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his tropical natal Saturn/Juno conjunct draco composite Jupiter/Juno (interesting that Jupiter and Juno conjunct exact in draco composite)

There’s a bit going on with this last one; let’s break it down. So, his SAT/JUNO — already a complex energy, as it specifically relates to commitments and structure within the bounds of committed relationships — marriage, really — we’d almost say this is the ‘contract’ aspect of the ‘marriage contract’. SATURN can also restrict and limit, as well as be karmic, so there may be elements of ‘karmic marriage’ here too.

So, this conjunction is conjunct an exact conjunction of d/cJUPITER and d/cJUNO. Wow! That one’s gonna be felt on some level for sure. He’s got the capacity to ‘realise’ this energy — to manifest it into one of the mythological marriage ‘soul pairings’. That’s really something. He can quite literally anchor this energy into the Tropical via a marital contract. Pretty self explanatory. Heh. But, due to the potency of that energy, he’s likely to NOT do so AT ALL lightly. It’s a very thorough, extremely critical, mature energy that’s either in it all the way, or not at all. Very little wiggle room there.
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What are the aspects being made to that one? Any?

My response:
I’m not sure if trines count in this? My natal Venus/SN trine his natal Jupiter/Saturn. My Psyche also widely opposite his Jupiter/Saturn. Draco composite sun trine Draco composite Jupiter/Juno and Mars sextile it as well.

I have Pluto conjunct Juno in natal so that may be a bit tough for me as well?

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As for the very Venusian/moon themes, there was definitely a certain comfort level I did not find with others. Maybe that is shown in these aspects being a feminine nature like you say? Maybe the Mercury/SN is pointing towards sibilants in a past life?