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andrea22
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posted November 05, 2021 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for andrea22     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hello there.
(Excuse me for bad grammar)

I was thinking how much synastries play a factor?!
I was involved with a man,who I was deeply attracted to,some of members on here given me their insight etc.

All in all,was really toxic. Alot of pluto from his side were touching my personal planets. Alot of his Saturn were also aspecting my planets: meaning he definitely has way more control over me. And yes,in such case was more onesided. I felt it.

I'am still trying to overome him. We still talk. I still hope we will make it,but I'am aware he will always have upper hand over me,based on synastry. Is not "upper hand" that it bothers me,but the fact that I feel more emotionally invested. He can let me go,I can't. My mars is all aspected by his planets,his is almost untouched.

His moon is in scorpio.. Very seductive man,magentizing,passionate.. and I got addicted to him.
And because of his neglect of my needs,mindgames etc...I crave to met some new man who will have moon in scorpio too.. and also a man whose mars will be heavly aspected by my planets,so that he feel strong desire for me as well.

Do I ask for too much? It may be simpler,easier.. Sure is not a quarante that the things will work out,but to check a synastry and see some potential is still good to see

I want to avoid men whose synastry aspects will be dominating over mine, and to look for aspects that will make my aspects also powerfull in his direction. To be balanced at least

After my toxic experience with my man,I felt like is my duty to protect myself from this pain. Meaning: If I met some dude online,or face to face.. I really have no problem to ask him about his full info.

And I don't care if some of them will be put off,but my experience taught me how maybe I would not suffer deeply,and long after him this much if I checked on time our synastry. I would be able to end it on time.


What do you think all? Is more general question: Is it better we ask for birth info from start our future dates,or we should let it unfold naturally?

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comdoc
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posted November 05, 2021 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comdoc     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Andrea, I feel it's wise to ask for birth information from prospective romantic partners. Why waste time and energy if there's no resonant potential?

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SimplyLuna
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posted November 06, 2021 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SimplyLuna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I def would! I see it as a background check I don't see why not? I think in some way it's smart. It's an additional background check If the guy becomes uncomfortable giving out this birth info, I say it's more about him than you or anyone. I've almost met with someone who has strong Mars/Pluto aspecting my personal planets and I ignored it but I felt something off about him. And I could sense his rage when I canceled our date for good reasons.

It's definitely frightening, in fact part of me felt damaged from previous encounters. I think it would take time for recovery. I say give yourself some time to heal from this as well because I fall into the rabbit hole obsessing analyzing every aspects I became too subjective. lol

I'm also prone to see things in magical lens too so yes, I do have to check to make sure I am not delusional.

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Sauerkraut
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posted November 06, 2021 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sauerkraut     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
maybe a little bit of both? use astrology as a loose manual for our meat spaceships but also let it unfold naturally to see how it plays out (for science). if i had taken astrology seriously before, i probably would have alleviated some suffering but who really knows.. everything clearer in hindsight.

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VeronicaNicole
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posted November 06, 2021 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sauerkraut:
maybe a little bit of both? use astrology as a loose manual for our meat spaceships but also let it unfold naturally to see how it plays out (for science). if i had taken astrology seriously before, i probably would have alleviated some suffering but who really knows.. everything clearer in hindsight.


Good answer. I think checking a potential partners planets out prior is a wise move. However until then just listen to your gut. You don't need a chart to tell you if you are into him or not. If you are enjoying your time together just wait for the opportunity to ask him for his chart organically.

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GalacticCoreExplosionV2
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posted November 06, 2021 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The "problem" with astrology is that it is never, and cannot be, 100% accurate all the time, because of the existence of freewill. Freewill is like the randomness that can be seen in quantum physics research.
Some people do not completely match up to their charts because of their individual use of freewill.

Anyways, of course I consider it, but do not solely rely on same.

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VeronicaNicole
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posted November 06, 2021 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by SimplyLuna:
I've almost met with someone who has strong Mars/Pluto aspecting my personal planets and I ignored it but I felt something off about him. And I could sense his rage when I canceled our date for good reasons.

Good call. Who becomes enraged by that? When astrology mirrors your own intuition then it is wise to listen.


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It's definitely frightening, in fact part of me felt damaged from previous encounters.

From the same guy? Sorry I'm nosy, lol. Stories about crazy people always grab my attention. It can be frightening being female sometimes. I am a petite, soft spoken, attractive 34yo woman who is usually alone. So you can bet I am alert and on guard. One of my most recent creeper situations was over the summer while I was working at a club. Either the DJ or bouncer, I honestly can't recall. He began approaching me regularly and we'd have conversations, if u wanna call them that, with little to no substance. He'd ask me if I had a man, I'd tell him yes but I think he kind of sensed my lie since I am a horrible liar. But even so... if someone is giving you that answer then it is the signal to push on elsewhere. The last night i worked there I was getting ready to leave & it is policy that the girls are escorted to their cars by one of the male staff there. He happened to be the only guy available to walk me out at the time. He tells me that if he walks me out then I gotta give him my #. I didnt really know the best way out of that situation so I gave it to him but straight up said there is a good chance I won't answer though. He goes "what does that mean?" I said it means I rarely pick up my phone. Idk I was just tossing words together that sounded like something. He says something like "we'll see." kinda laughing thinking I was joking or something idk. Not 5 mins down the road he is texting me some generic compliments like you're pretty. I never blocked his number but I never answered either. He called at least once a day for about 2 weeks. A few of those he called late at night using *67 or whatever so his calls showed up private. But I have an almost fully functioning brain so I knew it was him. He called maybe 2 more times after those 2 weeks from a private number. I mean yikes! If he was showing that much obsession & we weren't even in a relationship or even friends. I can't imagine how he'd be on that level.

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I'm also prone to see things in magical lens too so yes, I do have to check to make sure I am not delusional.


Yeah I can kind of relate. Sometimes I can confuse my psychosis with my intuition so having astrology to keep me in check has literally been a life saver.

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walkingcontradiction
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posted November 06, 2021 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for walkingcontradiction     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Although I agree and I feel you’d avoid any major traumatizing synastry..can’t help but wonder how many of us are actually versed enough in astrology and have the distance from our own situations to be able to accurately ascertain the situation?

For myself, I post here for help with my relationships a lot because I know I lack distance and also everyone here points out things I would never even know how to interpret- thinking specifically about stoika and midpoints right now but many other examples exist

Idk, I guess for things that are major we’d all see them but wondering if we’d limit ourselves on relationships if we operated this way?

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posted November 06, 2021 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Librapurr     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The "problem" with astrology is that it is never, and cannot be, 100% accurate all the time, because of the existence of freewill. Freewill is like the randomness that can be seen in quantum physics research.
Some people do not completely match up to their charts because of their individual use of freewill.

Anyways, of course I consider it, but do not solely rely on same.



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:Although I agree and I feel you’d avoid any major traumatizing synastry..can’t help but wonder how many of us are actually versed enough in astrology and have the distance from our own situations to be able to accurately ascertain the situation?

I know somebody who refuses to continue communication with potential suitors if they don’t provide their dob. Also, if their charts look narcissistic, abusing or something else is wrong for her taste. I don’t think that person know astrology well to make a good judgment here. She doesn’t consider synastry, just a person birth chart. It’s a way too extreme for me.
Also, I think she would be too extreme for a man with a “nice and easy” chart.

Birth charts could be a big influence. You could have similar aspects with many people. Also, there’s a composite chart. Many things to consider.
Don’t forget personal experience, transits change people.

You don’t like how you feel that person has power over you. The same way you can run into somebody who might dislike you because you’re having the upper hand in a relationship by planets. (Especially, if it’s high Pluto people)

You could use astrology as a reference/to see potential challenges, but try to avoid quick judgments, especially, if you don’t know astrology well.

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GalacticCoreExplosionV2
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posted November 06, 2021 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GalacticCoreExplosionV2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
In relation to what Librapurr said. I'm pretty well versed in astrology and fairly perceptive in general, and I get things wrong enough to give me pause for thought (or should). It's why I rarely speak in absolutes when it comes to astrology.

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VeronicaNicole
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posted November 06, 2021 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VeronicaNicole     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
@walkingcontradiction

Sorry this is a bit off topic but I had to comment on your username, I like it. Can I ask you what the story behind it is? If any

When I joined LL I had that as my signature with an arrow pointing left <==== & one pointing right ====> I changed up my signature earlier this year though.

I began creating my own website earlier this year. Well I bought a domain name & that's about as far as I got :-P it was walkingcontradiction.net I attempted to cancel it all but since I forgot some of my security questions they were only able to cancel my auto pay.

Anyways I just thought that was kinda cool. Ik It's not an unheard of saying, but its not really common either.

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posted November 19, 2021 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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