posted December 07, 2021 11:30 PM            

I haven't posted here in awhile, hope everyone is doing great...would appreciate your thoughts on this synastry and composite. Woman is in blue, man - in red. Both TOB are correct. Thank you in advance!

Synastry:

Composite:

posted December 08, 2021 02:34 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi CuriousV and welcome back!

Looking at the Composite, the chart looks very karmic as the nodes are square to the axis and Vertex is conjunct Mars and square to the Uranus/Chiron opposition... but honestly it doesn't look like a positive karma. The t-square involving Chiron square Mars and Pluto-Neptune YOD to Chiron looks very abusive and deceptive, or self-deceptive, but with potential aggressive tendencies. Vertex/Mars here may be highly deceptive as it may give a strong soulmate feeling but hiding a very obscure side of the relationship. Morever, Lilith is square to the Ceres/Sun opposition and opposite to Moon, so there may be a strong infatuation but deceiving about the most negative abusive sides of the relationship, which at first looks loving and even felt as an achievement with the Saturn/Jupiter conjunction. This all looks quite "bipolar" as it may hide a big illusion and the outcome may become very painful.

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Thank you, Stoika!

posted December 08, 2021 05:57 PM            

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Originally posted by CuriousV:
Thank you, Stoika!

and here I am, looking at the positive aspects in our synastry and thinking this looks good. When you say abusive, is it like a manipulation/control dynamic? He has trust issues, can be closed off, can be jealous, it's hard for him to open up completely due to being hurt in the past...Would the abusive tendencies be due to him having his Pluto and Saturn in the 7H? Should I not even continue with it? Sounds like no hope

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The YOD involving Pluto-Neptune-Chiron may explain his attitude closing off and trust issues. This can certainly show there are fears underlying the relationship linked to past wounds or unsolved inner issues (Chiron in hard aspect to Pluto and Mars)... the thing is that in the big picture of these configurations involving also Mars square Uranus it seems that there may also be underlying (potential) toxic and /or aggressive tendency along strong self-defence dynamics (Mars/Chiron)...
So it likely takes a lot of inner work and self-awareness in order to find balance and beiing able to count on the more positive sides... Saturn conjunct Jupiter may suggest that there may be progress and achievements in this perspective, but it takes efforts and devotion... Sorry I didn't have time to look at the synastry but I will do so as soon as possible in order to see if there may be a positive dynamic between you two for supporting those positive energies versus the negative ones...

posted December 08, 2021 11:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
The YOD involving Pluto-Neptune-Chiron may explain his attitude closing off and trust issues. This can certainly show there are fears underlying the relationship linked to past wounds or unsolved inner issues (Chiron in hard aspect to Pluto and Mars)... the thing is that in the big picture of these configurations involving also Mars square Uranus it seems that there may also be underlying (potential) toxic and /or aggressive tendency along strong self-defence dynamics (Mars/Chiron)...
So it likely takes a lot of inner work and self-awareness in order to find balance and beiing able to count on the more positive sides... Saturn conjunct Jupiter may suggest that there may be progress and achievements in this perspective, but it takes efforts and devotion... Sorry I didn't have time to look at the synastry but I will do so as soon as possible in order to see if there may be a positive dynamic between you two for supporting those positive energies versus the negative ones...

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Thank you so much, Stoika! I thought it was positive having our composite Sun and NN in 7H and Sun conjunct DCS as well as Moon & Venus in 8H and positive Neptune/Mars/Chiron & Venus/Chiron aspects.

And in Synastry, besides planet to planet aspects, I was reading about having his Sun fall into my 7H and Moon & Venus into my 8H and my Venus & Pluto into his 7H considering he has Pluto in his 7H.

Would you say his Pluto & Saturn in the 7H is what causes him to subconsciously choose karmic/difficult relationships? Is that his curse so to speak?

posted December 09, 2021 12:41 PM            

Sun/North Node/DSC (7th house) is very positive as this gives a soulmate feeling and motivation to develope the relationship, the square to lilith is a bit tricky as this can add a magic feeling to this soulmate feeling, very loving in unselfish way, but at the same time it could be a very otherworldly/deceptive infatuation... Vertex/Mars is also very otherworldly and it might let lose control over those soulmate feelings... Jupiter/Saturn sextile Sun/North Node looks like there's big expectation to achieve something together, they look like they're on a mission, but at the same time it can give instability and struggle for such achievement... And Venus trine Chiron is very positive as it gives a special intimacy. The thing is that the Mars/Uranus/Chiron t-square along with the Pluto-Neptune YOD to Chiron in the same chart looks "bipolar" since there's this dark side against the positive side mentioned above... this clearly shows there are unconscious inner issues challenging the positive energies.

posted December 09, 2021 06:04 PM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi CuriousV

Sun/North Node/DSC (7th house) is very positive as this gives a soulmate feeling and motivation to develope the relationship, the square to lilith is a bit tricky as this can add a magic feeling to this soulmate feeling, very loving in unselfish way, but at the same time it could be a very otherworldly/deceptive infatuation... Vertex/Mars is also very otherworldly and it might let lose control over those soulmate feelings... Jupiter/Saturn sextile Sun/North Node looks like there's big expectation to achieve something together, they look like they're on a mission, but at the same time it can give instability and struggle for such achievement... And Venus trine Chiron is very positive as it gives a special intimacy. The thing is that the Mars/Uranus/Chiron t-square along with the Pluto-Neptune YOD to Chiron in the same chart looks "bipolar" since there's this dark side against the positive side mentioned above... this clearly shows there are unconscious inner issues challenging the positive energies.

Yes, Pluto/Saturn in his 7th house is a big burden for his relationships... and this is attached to your Mars square your Jupiter, giving a lot of instability and denial...
then you have his Chiron-mercury square your Saturn-mercury which is very difficult at communication level as again subconscious issues are involved and in conflict. and his Moon is square to your Chiron/Uranus opposition, which may result in emotional coldness and distance whereas one's vulnerability and self-defence show up... Then his Mars is opposite your Neptune, and this may show that he could reject to open up and clearly be devoted to you.
So in the big picture it looks an intense relationship with strong feelings and intimacy, but quite complicated at psychological level... if Chiron can give healing here, it takes a lot of effort and unselfish love/devotion, but keeping in mind that with Mars square Chiron self-damaging attitudes in order to save the relationship are also possible.

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posted December 09, 2021 06:13 PM            

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Originally posted by CuriousV:
Thank you, Stoika. Always appreciate your input! Definitely something to think about...I've done tremendous amount of spiritual self work up to this point, not sure if I want to be in the "teacher/savor" relationship at this point if he is not willing to do his share of healing his past relationship traumas...

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