posted April 04, 2023 01:25 AM            

We are the same age, and different nationalities - he cheated on me, and the relationship was very triggering; from the beginning, honestly. It was one of those where I was trying so hard to fit a square peg into a round hole... but as time went on, my self-esteem crashed, I started to lose my hair, and I was constantly stressed. At the end of the day, though, it was refreshing and relieving when I picked myself up afterwards, and my standards were being raised. There's more to the story, but it is so difficult for me to explain in words - I know that that relationship tore me apart - and strangely enough, he had issues with sex, he cheated, hired prostitutes, had 1000 videos saved of porn and more...

Nevertheless, I actually want to take a look at astrology - I am always attracting Leos in my life, and my Taurus Venus hates them - although my boyfriend now I don't mind his Leo planets - this ex though, his stellium smacked my already wombly venus; I didn't like his moon (is it bi-quintle?) on my venus. Hated his moon in my 8th, I feel like that's where that dark sexual depth came from, and it brought it out in me. I guess there was lots if pressure from his moon/mars on my moon - although I have had mars opposition moon before and it didn't bother me (I am the red by the way).

The composite looks bland to me - I didn't think Moon opp Sun was a bad thing in a composite, but perhaps it was because there was nothing else really cushioning it? Seems like Venus was not living laughing and loving either - the composite Chiron is right on my Chiron, not to mention his Chiron too.I guess that's a t-square between venus, Saturn and mars/Chiron ish?? I feel like with that t-square, I was always afraid of being in public with him, he had such a roaming eye, and I hated it because I think I intuitively knew that he was disgusting.

Anyway, does anyone have any feedback, I would just like to know how others would interpret these charts

posted April 04, 2023 08:30 AM            

wow.. thank you for sharing you personal experience. I'm glad it didn't last too long for you. Some people stay years and years. So, well done to you.

posted April 04, 2023 09:28 AM            

I think Cap Moon in composite for two non-natal Cap moons can be very cold. Add to that it's in the 11th house, I feel like it would be devoid of connection and feel very cold.I have had composite Moon in Cap opposite Sun in Cancer, though we had a tight stellium of Sun, Venus, Mercury- worst pain in a relationship breakup. I have also had Cap Moon in another composite, and it was just kind of empty. Pleasant, but not deep. And that was us having conjunct natal Cap Moons in synastry.

I think Mars Moon in your 8th could have been very invasive. And your Mars would be triggered to react and dig into his 8th. Plus his Pluto is now square your Mars, which is new energy for him but not you.

With him having Chiron in his 8th house in natal perhaps that is manifesting as his sexual issues. And it's opposite Saturn. Square Lilith. All in mutable signs.

With those trines and sextiles it seems like your compatibility on the surface was easy and probably instant. But this is like two energies burning too brightly together and going up in flames. And you're right, the composite looks bland enough, but I bet Stoika could dig up some very relevant aspects.

posted April 04, 2023 02:20 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Hi LilyIris07,

wow.. thank you for sharing you personal experience. I'm glad it didn't last too long for you. Some people stay years and years. So, well done to you.

If you have time can you please post a synastry aspect grid and the other natal chart?

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posted April 04, 2023 02:26 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
You both put your Mars' in the other's 8th too. And your Mars is squared by Pluto, so this must have been pretty intense all around.

I think Cap Moon in composite for two non-natal Cap moons can be very cold. Add to that it's in the 11th house, I feel like it would be devoid of connection and feel very cold.I have had composite Moon in Cap opposite Sun in Cancer, though we had a tight stellium of Sun, Venus, Mercury- worst pain in a relationship breakup. I have also had Cap Moon in another composite, and it was just kind of empty. Pleasant, but not deep. And that was us having conjunct natal Cap Moons in synastry.

I think Mars Moon in your 8th could have been very invasive. And your Mars would be triggered to react and dig into his 8th. Plus his Pluto is now square your Mars, which is new energy for him but not you.

With him having Chiron in his 8th house in natal perhaps that is manifesting as his sexual issues. And it's opposite Saturn. Square Lilith. All in mutable signs.

With those trines and sextiles it seems like your compatibility on the surface was easy and probably instant. But this is like two energies burning too brightly together and going up in flames. And you're right, the composite looks bland enough, but I bet Stoika could dig up some very relevant aspects.

I have found Uranus in 12th to be trouble in composite- and a sudden ending. Neptune there too probably added some haze or points to you not seeing what he was doing behind closed doors. I echo Sass and am glad you got out of it relatively quickly.

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Thanks Stonemoon! So, true about the Pluto Square Mars being new energy for him!! I didn’t think about that - cause I’m constantly working on that stuff with myself, and using my Sun to ass some peace lol.

posted April 04, 2023 04:37 PM            

I see Saturn return coming for you both, so I suspect that will have a lot to do with it. You clearly had an awakening, so I think Saturn will be a good dose of wisdom and help you on your journey.

posted April 04, 2023 07:42 PM            

Venus would feel very "triggered" I would think. Planets "know" when they are stuck. Poor Venus just gets smaller and more neurotic.

For (one) example to make the point: if your Venus had nicer aspects, I'm sure you'd be able to tolerate his Leo planets more and possibly well. Given your Aries Moon and the fire grand trine between you both.

Also, I think you have a natal Yod including two of those planets (Mars and Uranus), the other being your Moon. It emphasises again that you def need easy aspects to this troublesome and restless configuration. I mean the planets involved.

Then his Uranus turning that Yod on. Obviously it's a generational theme you will have (people of your gen turning your Yod on), but the difference here is that your Mars (in your Yod), has no other supportive aspects in the synastry with him, just a yucky one from his Pluto. Makes Mars extra frustrated.

Why I look to natals also: to see the individual charts innate coping mechanisms (and other things).

These planets of your Yod are relationship planets so a bit of a hotspot in your chart perhaps.

You both also complete kites in each others charts with personal planets, and personal planets that, as mentioned, are already challenged. Kites are intense synastry patterns that are hard to manage. They kind of take the relationships off on it's own whirlwind ride and it can get out of control.

posted April 04, 2023 07:54 PM            

His natal:

My natal:

posted April 04, 2023 08:45 PM            

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Originally posted by StoneMoon:
I don't know about the Uranus Venus because again, that's energy you already have... but once again, he doesn't. Maybe the added pressure from his planets on top of your own natal challenges really brought them to a head? Obviously it was a huge turning and learning point for you. Do you think it was for him as well? Did he get some help for his issues and find clarity, or did he keep on his same path?

I see Saturn return coming for you both, so I suspect that will have a lot to do with it. You clearly had an awakening, so I think Saturn will be a good dose of wisdom and help you on your journey.

I am really curious too about the fact that so many planets in composite are retrograde. That feels like a lot of heavily internalized energy for a couple. But I don't know much about that, just going off of feeling.

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posted April 05, 2023 03:00 AM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
I think that your Mars AND Venus having only challenging aspects plays a large role.

Venus would feel very "triggered" I would think. Planets "know" when they are stuck. Poor Venus just gets smaller and more neurotic.

For (one) example to make the point: if your Venus had nicer aspects, I'm sure you'd be able to tolerate his Leo planets more and possibly well. Given your Aries Moon and the fire grand trine between you both.

Also, I think you have a natal Yod including two of those planets (Mars and Uranus), the other being your Moon. It emphasises again that you def need easy aspects to this troublesome and restless configuration. I mean the planets involved.

Then his Uranus turning that Yod on. Obviously it's a generational theme you will have (people of your gen turning your Yod on), but the difference here is that your Mars (in your Yod), has no other supportive aspects in the synastry with him, just a yucky one from his Pluto. Makes Mars extra frustrated.

Why I look to natals also: to see the individual charts innate coping mechanisms (and other things).

These planets of your Yod are relationship planets so a bit of a hotspot in your chart perhaps.

You both also complete kites in each others charts with personal planets, and personal planets that, as mentioned, are already challenged. Kites are intense synastry patterns that are hard to manage. They kind of take the relationships off on it's own whirlwind ride and it can get out of control.

You both have challenges from outer planets to personal planets (Uranus/Neptune to Venus), and you both recognise attractive things in each other, and similarities. But there are too many disharmonious and foreign elements as well, that cause dissatisfaction, confusion, and friction.

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I can definitely agree that my Venus felt trapped and neurotic, that placement was so hurt during and after the whole ordeal - my self-worth was in the floor. I think that if there were some soft connections to my Venus I could have handled it more... true about Aries Moon I'm honestly always attracting either Leo's or Aquariuses, mostly suns/venus/mars it's odd lol...

posted April 05, 2023 06:59 AM            

Other planets in easy aspect at the same time, can make you like them sometimes, and in some ways, but still there is an issues with the Venus challenge that will arise or be an on-going theme.

posted April 08, 2023 11:53 PM            

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Originally posted by sassaqua:
Venus challenged like that means a straight up don't like that person. Repulsion even.

Other planets in easy aspect at the same time, can make you like them sometimes, and in some ways, but still there is an issues with the Venus challenge that will arise or be an on-going theme.

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posted May 10, 2023 06:09 PM            

I believe it may have worked if your Venus was opposite his Venus and not square his Venus and opposite his node. Or if both people were more emotionally mature.

But the whole point of that relationship was that you both needed to learn something.