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Cuteleo85
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posted June 14, 2014 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cuteleo85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I found the first horary charts I pulled a couple of weeks ago to ask the kids and marriage questions, so I've been trying to read them now that I've been studying horary.

Although, there aren't any major aspects, I think they both point to maybe and yes?! Mainly because of the moon conjuct jupiter in cancer, vertex in 5th for kids, venus in 11th taurus (his 5th), mars in 5th (his 5th is ruled by aries) although weak in libra. Kids I'd say no, but some points to yes, so I am confused. Marriage: very similar chart, but significators are more spread out. I'd say it's more of a yes.

I have a few questions:
1. First of all, am I right it's a yes? If you could explain why you see yes or no, that would help
2. How do I interpret all those significator and cosig in 1st?
3. What about saturn rx in 5th in the kids chart? Delays and difficulties?
4. What does it mean when significators and cosig are so close and in a row?
5. When you ask the same questions different times, do you only consider the first chart?
6. In questions about relationships/marriage do we consider the 1st house as the other person's 7th as well?
7. When asking about love, do you look at 7th or 5th house?

Again, I'm trying to learn so any kind of insight would help.

Thank you!


KIDS:


MARRIAGE:

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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 14, 2014 04:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good news, Cuteleo! They both seem like Yes to me, however it is not a very good idea to ask 2 questions in such a short amount of time, even if they are different. It can get very confusing and the charts may refuse to answer.

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Originally posted by Cuteleo85:

I have a few questions:
1. First of all, am I right it's a yes? If you could explain why you see yes or no, that would help

In the kids chart, you as Mercury apply to sextile 5H ruler Venus. In the marriage chart, Moon applies to conjunct 7H ruler Jupiter.

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2. How do I interpret all those significator and cosig in 1st?

You don't. You are Mercury, you don't need other cosignificators. If there's a stellium of 7 planets in the first, would all of them be your cosigs? No. You are the ruler of the first, and that's all. Moon represents the situation, in my opinion.

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3. What about saturn rx in 5th in the kids chart? Delays and difficulties?

It does not aspect either of the significators so it doesn't influence you having kids in the future. Horary is not like natal, you disregard planets that are not key to answering the question, unless they somehow influence the outcome. In this case, Moon is separating from Saturn, which means it is something that happened already. It doesn't seem like a miscarriage to me, but it might have been an opportunity to get pregnant that passed you by.

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4. What does it mean when significators and cosig are so close and in a row?

I don't see what you mean by this. Explain please.

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5. When you ask the same questions different times, do you only consider the first chart?

Yes. You can read the other charts, but most of the times they are unreadable or have the same significators. Funny how the Universe is telling you naughty-naughty! You can't cheat the Universe.

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6. In questions about relationships/marriage do we consider the 1st house as the other person's 7th as well?

Technically, using the principle of derivative houses - yes. Practically, I use the 11th (his derivative 5th) because the 1st is always the querent and it gets too confusing. One planet per person makes more sense for me.

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7. When asking about love, do you look at 7th or 5th house?


Depends on the kind of love. Serious, committed relationships go to 7th, not so serious and primarily sexual ones go to the 5th.

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Cuteleo85
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posted June 14, 2014 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cuteleo85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Dancing Maenad!

Thank you so much for all this feedback; so nice of you!

Let me jump right into it-

1. For the kids chart, isn't mercury separating sextile venus? I'm just looking at the list at the bottom, so I'm not sure I'm looking at something else. I noticed it was separating and therefore a no for kids. I see an applying conjunction again for moon and jupiter (him); his 5th ruled by mars and mars in my 5th + my 5th ruled by venus and venus in his 5th taurus; also mercury, moon, and jupiter are all in cancer. However, I'm not sure they mean anything.

2. I guess Saturn rx could be birth control? Lol I don't know. We haven't tried to have any kids.

3. About the significators being in a row altogether, I was wondering it meant something. In the kids chart, we have sun (his cosig), mercury (me), moon (situation), jupiter (him) all back to back and most in the same house. Similar situation in the other chart. I wasn't sure if having those in 1st (again my house) or having them so close to one another meant something, but I guess it doesn't?

4.one last thing about saturn rx since it's been rx for awhile. If it is a significator in a chart, what does it mean? How should we interpret it? All separating aspects will become applying when it goes direct? It just means it's weak, etc. I can't find much about it online on this.

5. Finally, do you use vertex, NN, Fortuna, and juno at all?

Thank you so much again!!-)

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Cuteleo85
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posted June 17, 2014 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cuteleo85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bump

Any input anyone?

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Cuteleo85
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posted June 19, 2014 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cuteleo85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 21, 2014 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahh yes you're right, Mercury was stationary and about to go Rx. It might mean you'll change your mind and postpone for a better time.

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Cuteleo85
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posted June 21, 2014 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cuteleo85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahah that would make sense! There's always a better time:-) thank you again for your help!

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Dancing Maenad
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posted June 21, 2014 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dancing Maenad     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You're welcome and I am sorry I couldn't be more help to you, but to me it was very confusing to read two very similar charts, don't do that again lol.

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Cuteleo85
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posted June 22, 2014 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cuteleo85     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
You're welcome and I am sorry I couldn't be more help to you, but to me it was very confusing to read two very similar charts, don't do that again lol.


Ahah got it! I'm reading as many as I can. :-)

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