posted September 20, 2014 03:54 PM            

Am I meant to always experience emotional pain and suffering at the hands of men? This is a serious question..I really am lost right now and in so much pain..

Maybe I'm just meant to be alone forever..I mean not connecting with anyone and being alone will solve the issue and I'd never have to feel this way again.

posted September 20, 2014 05:34 PM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
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posted September 20, 2014 07:01 PM              

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Originally posted by babybull82:

Why not? Because of the ascendant? I've seen people judge a chart with a late ascendant before. Or does it mean I already know the answer to the question which is probably yes. Any news you give me now couldn't possibly hurt more than I already am so you can tell me.

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You answered your own question.

Yes, some people judge a chart regardless of the ascendant. I'm not one of them.

The ascendant is usually late when a question has to do with philosophy and life. Horary only works for specific answers. Your question was too general for horary.

You weren't looking for any particular answer when asking this question. You were looking for reassurance and hope.

posted September 20, 2014 08:22 PM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
You answered your own question.

Yes, some people judge a chart regardless of the ascendant. I'm not one of them.

The ascendant is usually late when a question has to do with philosophy and life. Horary only works for specific answers. Your question was too general for horary.

You weren't looking for any particular answer when asking this question. You were looking for reassurance and hope.

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I actually was looking for a specific answer to my question but thanks anyway...

posted September 21, 2014 09:39 PM              

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Originally posted by babybull82:
I actually was looking for a specific answer to my question but thanks anyway...

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Well, the chart has indicated that for whatever reason, the question is not valid.

Your question "Am I just always meant to experience emotional suffering..." is actually pretty vague for horary.

Because we all know the answer to that.

posted September 21, 2014 11:08 PM            

Babybull,

I would attempt to read it but I'm a noob in horary. Still trying to learn lol.

You are right though, typically charts aren't read when ASC hits 27 degrees, but like you I have seen charts read before so who knows.

posted September 22, 2014 09:55 AM              

If you're feeling negative then read books of philosophy by Aristotle, Ptolemy, etc. and read psychology books such as the psychology of being my Maslow and stuff like that.

That's my honest suggestion.

posted September 22, 2014 03:36 PM            

Smile, babybull, life will become good again!

posted September 22, 2014 10:24 PM            

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
I am sorry you feel that way, babybull, it is a feeling I know myself quite well. But let's not let despair get the best of us! Because I do have good news. It seems like this period of confusion and uncertainty will continue for just a little bit longer (you are applying to square Neptune, but at least the Moon-Saturn square is in the past - that was a period of loneliness and sadness that is just ending). However, you as Mars apply to trine a Mr. Jupiter and as Moon, you're sextiling Mercury. These planets could be 2 people, 2 opportunities for you (in which case you will meet Mercury sooner, in about 4 weeks or months), or could be the same person, if horary wants to reinforce an issue/reassure you that yes, there is sunshine after the rain!

Smile, babybull, life will become good again!

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Thank you I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question. I mean at the time I asked it I truly was in pain and was feeling pretty bad. Nothing to do with pessimism. I was hurting..Some people are just insensitive to that I guess.

posted September 22, 2014 11:38 PM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
When someone is pessimistic and talks about how much their life sucks, giving then fake unrealistic reassurance and temporary compassion is not my thing.

If you're feeling negative then read books of philosophy by Aristotle, Ptolemy, etc. and read psychology books such as the psychology of being my Maslow and stuff like that.

That's my honest suggestion.

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My honest suggestion: stay in your lane.

So then why should people feel sorry for you when you whine about not having friends or feeling like you are some victim because you think you are always right?

There is nothing wrong with people expressing their emotions-it is healthy. Babybull was upset and the last thing she needed was someone putting her down for no reason. If someone is upset, I am going to try and build them up. Nothing fake or unrealistic about that- I actually care about people.

posted September 23, 2014 07:22 AM            

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Originally posted by babybull82:
I'm in a lot of pain right now and I just feel like maybe this is just what life is for me when it comes to men.

Am I meant to always experience emotional pain and suffering at the hands of men? This is a serious question..I really am lost right now and in so much pain..

Maybe I'm just meant to be alone forever..I mean not connecting with anyone and being alone will solve the issue and I'd never have to feel this way again.
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posted September 24, 2014 06:27 PM              

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Originally posted by BellaFenice:
My honest suggestion: stay in your lane.

I can stay where the **** I want.

So then why should people feel sorry for you when you whine about not having friends or feeling like you are some victim because you think you are always right?

Wth are you talking about? I never ask for anyone's pity. I asked for a tarot to see when and if I would makes friends. Get your facts straight.

There is nothing wrong with people expressing their emotions-it is healthy. Babybull was upset and the last thing she needed was someone putting her down for no reason. If someone is upset, I am going to try and build them up. Nothing fake or unrealistic about that- I actually care about people.

Putting her down? How did I put her down? Can you not use exaggerated words please?

I only said that the chart couldn't be read and gave a reason for that. Unless I acted like an old nice grandma consoling I'm putting others down? Yeah right.

As a Pisces Moon I am floored by the negativity you constantly spit at people. You want friends? Then be a friend.

Does it look like I'm asking for your pisces moon's opinion? I don't think so. And no I don't need fake friends, thank you.

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posted September 24, 2014 06:34 PM              

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Originally posted by babybull82:
Thank you I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question. I mean at the time I asked it I truly was in pain and was feeling pretty bad. Nothing to do with pessimism. I was hurting..Some people are just insensitive to that I guess.

And btw MiaPluto I'd appreciate it if from now on you just stayed out of my threads and I hope you don't experience someone being as rude and as thoughtless as you are.

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You think I was rude? Let me tell you what rude is. If you wanted me to be 100% honest about this thread of yours, I would say you're incredibly dumb about asking a horary-useless question and even with a late ascendant you still don't understand what was wrong with your question even though I explained to you as politely as possible. And because I didn't console your precious little heart I become a villain.

Well sorry I couldn't be your average consoling aunt-type superficial fake lady of this site.

Now go cry in your room.

Oh and, I can post on whatever thread I like, whenever I want to, and whenever I feel like. It's my keyboard. xx

posted September 24, 2014 06:36 PM              

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Originally posted by Dancing Maenad:
I understand that, babybull, especially because I've been there myself more than once. I applaud expressing your pain, but - from my own experience - I think it is not a good thing to let despair overwhelm you. It crushes your spirit. The wheel is always turning, as nothing (not even hard times) lasts forever.

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I think I heard this kind of line in some cliche hollywood movie before.

posted September 24, 2014 08:29 PM            

MiaPluto, you are going to learn this lesson the hard way I guess. The real world is a tough place, and people are not going to tolerate your behavior, period.

posted September 24, 2014 08:32 PM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
You think I was rude? Let me tell you what rude is. If you wanted me to be 100% honest about this thread of yours, I would say you're incredibly dumb about asking a horary-useless question and even with a late ascendant you still don't understand what was wrong with your question even though I explained to you as politely as possible. And because I didn't console your precious little heart I become a villain.

Well sorry I couldn't be your average consoling aunt-type superficial fake lady of this site.

Now go cry in your room.

Oh and, I can post on whatever thread I like, whenever I want to, and whenever I feel like. It's my keyboard. xx

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posted December 03, 2014 11:12 PM            

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Originally posted by MiaPluto:
You think I was rude? Let me tell you what rude is. If you wanted me to be 100% honest about this thread of yours, I would say you're incredibly dumb about asking a horary-useless question and even with a late ascendant you still don't understand what was wrong with your question even though I explained to you as politely as possible. And because I didn't console your precious little heart I become a villain.

Well sorry I couldn't be your average consoling aunt-type superficial fake lady of this site.

Now go cry in your room.

Oh and, I can post on whatever thread I like, whenever I want to, and whenever I feel like. It's my keyboard. xx

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Hahaha! I didn't even see this, you are so spiteful but whatevs.

Anyway update, I actually DID meet someone like 10 days after I posted this. Oh and thanks to those who responded with something CONSTRUCTIVE. I was really in a lot of pain but it was a lesson I had to learn. As far as the guy in the chart that I met, things got intense really fast and just as quickly as it started it ended. But I've had such tremendous growth and maturity even in that short amount of time. I DO believe the first guy was Mercury, just simply based off the fact we started talking during the Merc rx and his Mercury is in gemini. Also I realize the 8th house cusp was in gemini/mercury as well showing that it would end in loss and be a deep 8th house type of connection and it was.

I asked a horary of whether or not we'd get back together and the answer was yes, but if we didn't it would be because of me, because I *may* meet someone else before he comes back, which could be the second guy (Jupiter) in THIS chart. So we'll see. But thanks again guys for the support.

posted December 04, 2014 07:17 AM            

The ascendant is late.

Oh! The irony!!!
Almost too late, but this is pointing to a no, but Asc is mutable.