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dafremen
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posted December 10, 2003 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dafremen     Edit/Delete Message
This is the first of a four part series.

There was a saying that an old surpervisor of mine was very attached to. That saying was, "Perception is reality." He was, not too surprisingly, a Virgo. He was also, at the time, a project manager whose main concern was that the upper management types be pleased. It didn't matter to him that the project was falling apart, as long as the management bigwigs didn't think that it was.

Reality and perception are miles apart. This can be easily demonstrated through something as simple as a journey through one's own lifetime.

A game that parents often play with their new babies is called PEEK-A-BOO. This game amuses infants for hours at a time, mainly because at that point in the development of their understanding, they do not realize that something which cannot be seen, still exists. To the baby's perception, once you cease to appear, you must be gone, and so when you suddenly appear in front of them, it is a source of surprise and wonder. To us, it is a silly game. To them, it is magic.

How many of us can forget how we were suckered in by the ads for the latest doo-dad, gizmo or thinga-ma-bob? So amazing, even in the package, right in front of our eyes..then disillusionment. Not everything that our mind is told and comes to believe to be true, is true.

We often find ourselves the butt of our own imagination's creations. Remember that dream guy/gal that turned out to be the dud from the seventh plane of Hell? They were what they were, not what we imagined them to be. Even though their own actions may have played a part in the masquerade of their true nature, still, when the veil was lifted, what was, was what had always been.

There IS Truth, and to be honest, PERCEPTION and BELIEF have probably LIED to us more often than they have told us the Truth.

If more examples will help to drive this point home, take the average Joe's impression of the so-called "occult" arts..astrology for one. How many of us remember being on THAT side of disbelief? Remember, though, that their disbelief from our perspective, is also their BELIEF from their perspective. Both are deceptive. You cannot know Truth through belief. Belief is a roadblock more often than not and perception is it's accomplice. Beliefs are hard things to alter once they've set up camp. They harden into a shape and then anything which lies outside of that basic mold becomes irrational to our mind. We doubt things which don't fit our beliefs.

To see an oak desk and believe that it is solid, is patently false. We know this. There is a great deal of space between the molecules, and also between the electrons that form the outer shell of the atoms and the nucleus of those atoms. A "solid" oak desk is composed mostly of empty space.

But just 200 years ago, trying to tell people that there was more empty space than oak where that desk stood would have been almost impossible. They simply would not have BELIEVED it. Why? Because they could not have PERCEIVED of it. Such a thing boggles the mind and goes against what the brain deems to be rational. Well, DID deem to be rational, until we proved otherwise. Now what was once inconceivable is considered common knowledge among "educated" individuals.

Don't think for a second that BELIEF and PERCEPTION have stopped lying to you, or the rest of the human race, simply because you are more "open-minded" than most. Belief and perception are the epitomy of DECEPTION.. particularly when they choose to disregard the Truth, in favor of something that the mind finds more easily digested. Usually something that is more in line with what the mind already believes to be true.

Many, many years ago, someone told the story of six blind men who came upon an elephant. Having never known an elephant before, each reached out to know what an elephant might be.

The first leaned against it's broad, sturdy side and, based on his perception, believed that an elephant must be like a wall.

The second reached out and felt the smooth, round shaft and sharp point of the elephant's tusk. Based on his perception, he believed that an elephant must be like a spear.

The third man reached out and took the animal's squirming trunk in his hands and percieved it to be like a snake. So that's what he believed that an elephant must be like.

The fourth man reached out and wrapped his arms around the elephant's thick leg. With that perception in his mind, the man believed that the elephant was certainly and most obviously like a tree.

The fifth blind man's face brushed against the animal's ear. Reaching up and feeling around the ear, it seemed very obvious, based upon his perception, that an elephant, must be like a fan.

The sixth man's opinion was, in the end, just as wrong as the rest, for he had found the tail. Based upon his perception, he believed an elephant to be very much like a rope.

They spent the rest of the afternoon arguing about whose opinion held the most merit, since a fan was obviously not a snake and a rope was obviously not a tree, nor was a spear a wall. Hour after hour the debate raged, and in the end, none of them believed that the others were half as right as he.

They were, of course all a little right, but all dead wrong. Even if they had STOPPED arguing and agreed that each had the right to believe in his own way, they would have certainly STILL been dead wrong. Reasonable, but still wrong.

See, the Truth is not what you perceive it to be, nor will your belief help you see past perception to the Truth. An elephant is an elephant, regardless of what you believe it to be and in spite of your perception. An elephant is what it is despite your willingness to let another believe that an elephant is something other than what an elephant actually is.

This is the first of four posts in the course of which Truth will be revealed. This Truth is not my belief, because I haven't been able to bring myself to believe it yet.

Some truths fly in the face of beliefs that are so deeply rooted in the human psyche, that although you can understand them and know them to be true, believing them is significantly more difficult. As I've said before, seeing the door is the first step, opening it is another...but walking through the door is a MUCH more difficult proposition and in the end, the only one that matters.

This information is part of a four part series. The four posts are titled:

Perception is NOT reality
Of Fate
Of Freewill
and
Divine Perception.

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Randall
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posted December 25, 2003 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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Meercatt
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posted December 25, 2003 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meercatt     Edit/Delete Message
dafreman... where do these words come from?

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posted December 26, 2003 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
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posted December 26, 2003 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverbells     Edit/Delete Message
dafremen, if this "truth" that is to be revealed is not something that you can believe yet, than how do you know that it is true AND good to represent as true?

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posted December 28, 2003 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverbells     Edit/Delete Message
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trillian
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posted December 29, 2003 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
silverbells, I think it's because perception IS reality.

Sorry daf, no disrespect intended to your interesting post, just couldn't resist a bit of humor kissed with irony.

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dafremen
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posted December 30, 2003 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dafremen     Edit/Delete Message
When you have seen the Truth, there is no mistaking it for what it is. Nothing that your eyes have seen could affect you so deeply, Nothing that your mind has been able to comprehend up to that time will seem as relevant as the Truth. Nothing that you've known or thought you did will seem the least bit useful after you have seen this.

One morning at 12:40AM a whisper came to my heart and awakened me from my sleep. The next thing I saw was the dragon, consuming its own tail and I KNEW what that meant, though I never had before. Soon I saw the come and go of things, the deceptive nature of time which creates such realness of these fantasies. All fantasies that in practically no time at all dissolve away into their component parts...or evolve up to their highest potential. Return to the Alpha to take another shot at the Omega...or reach for the Omega straight away..the choice is ours. How do I know? How do you know you're in love..for real for real in love and not just infatuation? One could go on and on about the fireworks and the bells, the tender moments and the tricks that cherubs play with bows an arrows on unspuspecting lovers...but until your heart is swept away for that one and only time...you cannot know. All of the infatuations and puppy loves...all of the lust come running will not prepare you for the reality of of the reality...for neither love nor God require that you believe in them for them to be real.

This is True: Lose the mind-invented self and find the kingdom of God.

daf

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posted December 30, 2003 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Everything I see touch taste smell feel, is Truth.
God/dess IS. And the IS encompasses ALL, good bad ugly or otherwise.

Otherwise, you're just exchanging rules for rules, dogma for dogma.

To be, or not to be, is that even a question?

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posted January 01, 2004 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Or, maybe not.
Maybe nothing in this world is true.
Ya never know, do ya?

As so ends the book "Illusions." I highly recommend it.

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posted January 02, 2004 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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Ariesrocks!
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posted January 30, 2004 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ariesrocks!     Edit/Delete Message

What is reality?

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Eleanore
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posted February 03, 2004 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eleanore     Edit/Delete Message
Daf ... I just wanted to say ... I hear you.
And I know it must be very frustrating trying to communicate things of this nature (ie, TRUTH) in way that hopefully won't offend others, yet still help them to understand ... akin to helping an elderly person from a disadvantaged county learn how to make use of the internet when they've never even seen a computer ... so many obstacles, but you still try your best to be patient because all you really want to do is help. <Sigh>
I know, in the "end" it is the message that is important ... but I still think you are doing a great job as far as presenting it in an easily digestible way.

"We are as fish who, having always lived in water, are unaware of its existence." (In no way do I mean to insult the intelligence of fish by this either )

Walk thru the door.

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dafremen
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posted March 25, 2004 07:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dafremen     Edit/Delete Message
see also:Science of Religion

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Gia
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posted June 10, 2004 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gia     Edit/Delete Message
"It's impossible to imagine that which you already have not experienced!"

This is something a friend is very fond of reminding me. You are so right, perception is far from reality. Perception is really just illusion. Quite mind boggling implications would'nt you say?

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posted June 10, 2004 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
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Normally I just read the posts and I hardly ever respond but I can't help but to respond to this one.I am not going to use a play on words about what is right between "reality" and "perception" and "belief" and all of that.Simply put..I think NO ONE knows the Truth.No One here could ever comprehend it and if they tell you they can...then they are lying.Sorry to be so blunt but in the short of things....no one actually knows the Truth.We may think we know truth on many levels and for some of us perhaps we do (small fractions of Truth).But my truth is not the same as your truth,just as your truth isn't the same as the person standing next to you in line at the grocery store.I get so tired of hearing the "I'm right and you're wrong" gurus (I am not implying anyone here fits this descrip).People fight so hard for causes to prove who can be on top of the pile,the champion,the underdog.I had a stranger tell me something profound the other day when I went to pick my car up from the shop.He smiles at me and says "If all of the people in this world would care about each other the same way about they care about religion and who is right and wrong..then I think we would be in a much better place right about now".Nuff said.Blessings.....maven

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posted June 17, 2004 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dafremen     Edit/Delete Message
There is only God. That is true.

Love,

daf

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posted June 18, 2004 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maven     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Daf.I didn't mean to sound so harsh but I am sure you can understand where I am coming from.I drives me nuts to actually watch people walk away from their own truth for the simple fact that it is "too inconvient" for them at the time.That or they choose to remain ignorant..which in some ways is really fine because in the End there can be only One judge.I just wish everyone would agree to disagree but then I suppose that wouldn't make life much fun now would it?We are a Blessed people......and we should never take advantage of that fact.But folks...this world is no real reality.This Earth is exactly that.....the Earth,just a planet.When man has long gone she will remain or she won't but the fact remains she just IS.I have a very good mason friend who's fave quite is "let it be".For the longest time when he said that I would get so mad thinking who he is to tell me such things?!!!But then once Self subsided and the Ego dimmed I realized he was right...you cannot change it,it has already happened...just let it be.My own personal quote that hangs on my fridge says "focus on the solution...and not the problem".Because right now......the second I finished writing that sentance it was in the past.Some will see what is about to transpire in this world and some will not.Regardless..they make the choice as to what to do with the information.They can learn and grow from it,or they can run and hide.Either way though...it is their choice and their choice is different from yours just as their truth is also.So guide the ones you love but remember...you can show them the Path but it is they who have to walk it.I do hope things are improving Daf.Your knowledge astounds me and I am very blessed to have met you at all.Just remember...it is more of the Knowing...not all in the hearing.Namaste and Blessings......maven

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