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MAKLHOUF
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posted February 18, 2011 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A problem for astrologers?
To taste eternity one must not only let go of death. One has also to let go of birth.

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Randall
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posted February 19, 2011 12:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Not sure what you mean.

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posted February 21, 2011 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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MAKLHOUF
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posted February 23, 2011 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have spoken of this before but can't find the thread. The freeman movement advise us to regard our date of birth as hearsay. I think this is good advice for immortals, but it does mean that Astrological forecasts will have no further relevance to them.

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posted February 25, 2011 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Answers are not always clear right away. They may become clearer with the passage of time. I have noticed that happening with earlier answers I have given in O&A

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posted February 26, 2011 11:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You still had an earthly birth no matter how long you live, so your chart would still apply; of course, this gives you more time time to overcome your weaknesses.

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posted February 26, 2011 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emitres     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hhmm... i think there may be some truth to your premise maklhouf but not necessarily just for immortals... i don't think the key lies in denying the date of birth... Randall is correct, we still have a day and hour that we took first breath in this world and, as a result, have an " earthly " blueprint... however, with knowledge comes the ability to not be chained to your natal chart and even the progression of heavenly bodies around you can have less impact... but i don't believe that this gift is only accessible to immortals... of course, the way to gain this knowledge is thru astrological study... the natal chart should be used as a road map - it can guide but never obligate... and we can all benefit from guidance

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posted February 27, 2011 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well-said!

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posted February 28, 2011 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Linda said that the more you learn about your chart, the less it affects you.

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posted March 04, 2011 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Randall:
Linda said that the more you learn about your chart, the less it affects you.

Yes! The greater understnding of your chart, the clearer you see your destiny. Not based on your blueprint but on the strength/weakness`s of it`s possabilities and the Knowledge or power to move beyond it to your Grand Plan .

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

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posted March 05, 2011 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Most wise, as always, Juni.

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posted March 06, 2011 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't see a lot of influence in mine, but Lindaland really got hit by Merc Rx last time around.

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posted March 06, 2011 01:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I rarely see an influence in mine either. Knock on wood as it by Astrologers definition , a difficult chart

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What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world is immortal"~

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posted March 06, 2011 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Pluto in my chart seems to affect other people around me moreso than myself. Aside from my Virgo ASC, I feel less and less like my chart, and transits don't seem to affect me at all.

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posted March 06, 2011 08:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have found people are our transits and they are on our path for a reason.

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posted March 07, 2011 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for emitres     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes to both juni and Randall...
i don't feel the influence of mine either but i sometimes worry that it's my ego getting in the way... seems to be a fine line to walk upon sometimes

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posted March 08, 2011 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhh...people are our transits. Me likey that!

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posted March 09, 2011 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ego can cloud vision. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

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posted March 10, 2011 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And matching hat.

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posted March 11, 2011 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, people can be transits, helpful ones are helpful people and difficult ones are difficult people.

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posted March 15, 2011 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
True that.

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posted April 26, 2011 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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"All deaths are suicides, do you realize that? Every single one. The only distinction is that, with some people, suicide is a subconscious choice, and with others it's a conscious choice. Otherwise, those who commit suicide and those who succumb to accident, illness or "old age," die for exactly the same reason: belief in the inevitability of death." Linda Goodman

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posted May 09, 2011 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think that if you follow the the teachings of The Secret ( The law of attraction), predictive astrology becomes irrelevant, since you are now creating your own reality

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I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now. Bob Dylan

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posted May 09, 2011 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Secret ain't as easy as that. But we have always created our own reality.

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"They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips." (Romans 1:29)

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