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markg
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posted August 05, 2011 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for markg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm not sure if you've all read this article, but it's relevant to what is being talked about in this forum, and displays the body's natural, inherent genius in reverse.
http://www.rse-newsletter.com/2010/04/ramtha-immortal-cells-cancer-and-the-telomeres/

This is my first post to this forum. It's nice to know there are other physical immortals out there to share in the glory during the coming one-thousand years of peace on this planet prophesied in the Revelation and by Meher Baba.

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posted August 07, 2011 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 08, 2011 05:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for markg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I could really use Aristotle's advice when I'm out in the world. I'm still working on that one.

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posted August 09, 2011 09:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted August 10, 2011 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by markg:
I'm not sure if you've all read this article, but it's relevant to what is being talked about in this forum, and displays the body's natural, inherent genius in reverse.
[URL=http://www.rse-newsletter.com/2010/04/ramtha-immortal-cells-cancer-and-the-telomeres/]http://www.rse-newsletter.com/2010/04/ramtha-immortal-cells-cancer-and-the-telomeres/[/UR L]

This is my first post to this forum. It's nice to know there are other physical immortals out there to share in the glory during the coming one-thousand years of peace on this planet prophesied in the Revelation and by Meher Baba.


Oh yes the immortal HeLa cells!!!!!!!!!!!
Fascinating!

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posted August 10, 2011 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW...markg

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posted August 10, 2011 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Henrietta-Lacks-Immortal-Cells.html

Henrietta Lacks’ ‘Immortal’ Cells
Medical researchers use laboratory-grown human cells to learn the intricacies of how cells work and test theories about the causes and treatment of diseases. The cell lines they need are “immortal”—they can grow indefinitely, be frozen for decades, divided into different batches and shared among scientists. In 1951, a scientist at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Baltimore, Maryland, created the first immortal human cell line with a tissue sample taken from a young black woman with cervical cancer. Those cells, called HeLa cells, quickly became invaluable to medical research.
—though their donor remained a mystery for decades. In her new book, The Immortal Life of Henrietta Lacks, journalist Rebecca Skloot tracks down the story of the source of the amazing HeLa cells, Henrietta Lacks, and documents the cell line's impact on both modern medicine and the Lacks family.

Who was Henrietta Lacks?
She was a black tobacco farmer from southern Virginia who got cervical cancer when she was 30. A doctor at Johns Hopkins took a piece of her tumor without telling her and sent it down the hall to scientists there who had been trying to grow tissues in culture for decades without success. No one knows why, but her cells never died.

Why are her cells so important?
Henrietta’s cells were the first immortal human cells ever grown in culture. They were essential to developing the polio vaccine. They went up in the first space missions to see what would happen to cells in zero gravity. Many scientific landmarks since then have used her cells, including cloning, gene mapping and in vitro fertilization.

There has been a lot of confusion over the years about the source of HeLa cells. Why?
When the cells were taken, they were given the code name HeLa, for the first two letters in Henrietta and Lacks. Today, anonymizing samples is a very important part of doing research on cells. But that wasn’t something doctors worried about much in the 1950s, so they weren’t terribly careful about her identity. When some members of the press got close to finding Henrietta’s family, the researcher who’d grown the cells made up a pseudonym—Helen Lane—to throw the media off track. Other pseudonyms, like Helen Larsen, eventually showed up, too. Her real name didn’t really leak out into the world until the 1970s.

Read more: http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Henrietta-Lacks-Immortal-Cells.html #ixzz1UeVRPRs8

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posted August 10, 2011 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/medicine/laureates/2009/press.html

Press Release

2009-10-05

The Nobel Assembly at Karolinska Institutet has today decided to award

The Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine 2009

jointly to

Elizabeth H. Blackburn, Carol W. Greider and Jack W. Szostak

for the discovery of

"how chromosomes are protected
by telomeres and the enzyme telomerase"

Summary

This year's Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine is awarded to three scientists who have solved a major problem in biology: how the chromosomes can be copied in a complete way during cell divisions and how they are protected against degradation. The Nobel Laureates have shown that the solution is to be found in the ends of the chromosomes – the telomeres – and in an enzyme that forms them – telomerase.

The long, thread-like DNA molecules that carry our genes are packed into chromosomes, the telomeres being the caps on their ends. Elizabeth Blackburn and Jack Szostak discovered that a unique DNA sequence in the telomeres protects the chromosomes from degradation. Carol Greider and Elizabeth Blackburn identified telomerase, the enzyme that makes telomere DNA. These discoveries explained how the ends of the chromosomes are protected by the telomeres and that they are built by telomerase.

If the telomeres are shortened, cells age. Conversely, if telomerase activity is high, telomere length is maintained, and cellular senescence is delayed. This is the case in cancer cells, which can be considered to have eternal life. Certain inherited diseases, in contrast, are characterized by a defective telomerase, resulting in damaged cells. The award of the Nobel Prize recognizes the discovery of a fundamental mechanism in the cell, a discovery that has stimulated the development of new therapeutic strategies.
The mysterious telomere

The chromosomes contain our genome in their DNA molecules. As early as the 1930s, Hermann Muller (Nobel Prize 1946) and Barbara McClintock (Nobel Prize 1983) had observed that the structures at the ends of the chromosomes, the so-called telomeres, seemed to prevent the chromosomes from attaching to each other. They suspected that the telomeres could have a protective role, but how they operate remained an enigma.

When scientists began to understand how genes are copied, in the 1950s, another problem presented itself. When a cell is about to divide, the DNA molecules, which contain the four bases that form the genetic code, are copied, base by base, by DNA polymerase enzymes. However, for one of the two DNA strands, a problem exists in that the very end of the strand cannot be copied. Therefore, the chromosomes should be shortened every time a cell divides – but in fact that is not usually the case (Fig 1).

Both these problems were solved when this year's Nobel Laureates discovered how the telomere functions and found the enzyme that copies it.
Telomere DNA protects the chromosomes

In the early phase of her research career, Elizabeth Blackburn mapped DNA sequences. When studying the chromosomes of Tetrahymena, a unicellular ciliate organism, she identified a DNA sequence that was repeated several times at the ends of the chromosomes. The function of this sequence, CCCCAA, was unclear. At the same time, Jack Szostak had made the observation that a linear DNA molecule, a type of minichromosome, is rapidly degraded when introduced into yeast cells.

Blackburn presented her results at a conference in 1980. They caught Jack Szostak's interest and he and Blackburn decided to perform an experiment that would cross the boundaries between very distant species (Fig 2). From the DNA of Tetrahymena, Blackburn isolated the CCCCAA sequence. Szostak coupled it to the minichromosomes and put them back into yeast cells. The results, which were published in 1982, were striking – the telomere DNA sequence protected the minichromosomes from degradation. As telomere DNA from one organism, Tetrahymena, protected chromosomes in an entirely different one, yeast, this demonstrated the existence of a previously unrecognized fundamental mechanism. Later on, it became evident that telomere DNA with its characteristic sequence is present in most plants and animals, from amoeba to man.
An enzyme that builds telomeres

Carol Greider, then a graduate student, and her supervisor Blackburn started to investigate if the formation of telomere DNA could be due to an unknown enzyme. On Christmas Day, 1984, Greider discovered signs of enzymatic activity in a cell extract. Greider and Blackburn named the enzyme telomerase, purified it, and showed that it consists of RNA as well as protein (Fig 3). The RNA component turned out to contain the CCCCAA sequence. It serves as the template when the telomere is built, while the protein component is required for the construction work, i.e. the enzymatic activity. Telomerase extends telomere DNA, providing a platform that enables DNA polymerases to copy the entire length of the chromosome without missing the very end portion.
Telomeres delay ageing of the cell

Scientists now began to investigate what roles the telomere might play in the cell. Szostak's group identified yeast cells with mutations that led to a gradual shortening of the telomeres. Such cells grew poorly and eventually stopped dividing. Blackburn and her co-workers made mutations in the RNA of the telomerase and observed similar effects in Tetrahymena. In both cases, this led to premature cellular ageing – senescence. In contrast, functional telomeres instead prevent chromosomal damage and delay cellular senescence. Later on, Greider's group showed that the senescence of human cells is also delayed by telomerase. Research in this area has been intense and it is now known that the DNA sequence in the telomere attracts proteins that form a protective cap around the fragile ends of the DNA strands.
An important piece in the puzzle – human ageing, cancer, and stem cells

These discoveries had a major impact within the scientific community. Many scientists speculated that telomere shortening could be the reason for ageing, not only in the individual cells but also in the organism as a whole. But the ageing process has turned out to be complex and it is now thought to depend on several different factors, the telomere being one of them. Research in this area remains intense.

Most normal cells do not divide frequently, therefore their chromosomes are not at risk of shortening and they do not require high telomerase activity. In contrast, cancer cells have the ability to divide infinitely and yet preserve their telomeres. How do they escape cellular senescence? One explanation became apparent with the finding that cancer cells often have increased telomerase activity. It was therefore proposed that cancer might be treated by eradicating telomerase. Several studies are underway in this area, including clinical trials evaluating vaccines directed against cells with elevated telomerase activity.

Some inherited diseases are now known to be caused by telomerase defects, including certain forms of congenital aplastic anemia, in which insufficient cell divisions in the stem cells of the bone marrow lead to severe anemia. Certain inherited diseases of the skin and the lungs are also caused by telomerase defects.

In conclusion, the discoveries by Blackburn, Greider and Szostak have added a new dimension to our understanding of the cell, shed light on disease mechanisms, and stimulated the development of potential new therapies.

for more see above link.

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posted August 10, 2011 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks, LEXX!

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posted August 10, 2011 05:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for markg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fascinating article, Lexx. Where did you find it?

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posted August 11, 2011 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
She posted the link.

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posted August 12, 2011 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for markg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oops.

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posted August 13, 2011 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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posted February 18, 2012 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAKLHOUF     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have been trying to warn O&A users that we will be regarded as a cancer in the larger human society if we are seen as becoming physically immortal.

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posted March 01, 2012 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Did you know that by the time you're diagnosed with cancer (except as a young child), you've had it for 8 to 10 years?

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posted April 14, 2012 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You still around, Mark?

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posted April 18, 2012 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for markg     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, I'm still around, Randall.

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posted April 28, 2012 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Aristotle quote was saying that if you do anything of significance, you will get criticized.

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