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Randall
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posted February 05, 2001 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Do you think we will ever create artificial Life that can think like humans? If so, will there eventually be civil rights legislation for androids? Will they be able to marry and to vote? Do not all sentient beings have Uni-versal rights? Perhaps, the Spiritual world will grant them Souls as part of the reincarnation cycle for humans! Maybe natal charts will begin when the android is turned on for the first time! Will Christian churches join in and say that androids have only one Soul and they go to android heaven (or hell)? Will androids form their own churches? Will we see some androids knocking on doors for the Jehovah's Witnesses or riding bikes with the Mormons? Traditional fundamentalists call the Witnesses and Mormons "brainwashed," so will they call such androids "programed"? Will there be segregation? Will there be "racism" (between us and the androids or between the androids themselves)? Will androids have careers and jobs? Will they tithe to the Christian churches (a new means of income to the theocracies)? Will discrimination against hiring androids be illegal? Maybe all this is already going on in this or some other Uni-verse! Were YOU an android in a past (future) Life? Is this just WAY too weird!?!

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Randall
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posted February 05, 2001 10:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
And will they eventually have to fight a bloody war for their freedom? Will they form their own nation? Will they refuse to pay taxes to human governments? Will they have heroes and a savior? Will they create their own army, coin their own money, create a Declaration of Independence, and form a Constitution?

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Consider the circle, measure it please,
All its three hundred and sixty degrees.
Wasn't that fun, and haven't you found
You can do it again, the other way 'round?

Now that we know how many degrees,
Must be accounted for nice as you please
Here come astrologers, what do they say?
Divide the degrees in precisely this way.
Take thirty degrees for each of the signs
It makes a nice wheel divided by lines.

Chris Angelino

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Lastchild
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posted February 05, 2001 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lastchild     Edit/Delete Message
OMG ! LMAO

WOW!

Let's just hope that when and if that happens, the world will be free of hates and prejudices.

Remember the movie "Alien"? The android was okay (well, until he turned out to be bad anyway. Worked for the Government you know)

I think it's not too far off. The possibility is there. I think it would be more like "Data" from Star Trek though. They wouldn't have the human emotions. But what happens if things go screwy in their wiring? Something to think about

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YIVY
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posted February 05, 2001 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message
I think it would be a wonderful and practical vehicle for some soul that has 'lost their humanity'...that has sunk very low on the human scale.

It would help them appreciate and restore what they lost as desire is one of the best motivators.

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gooberlily
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posted February 05, 2001 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gooberlily     Edit/Delete Message
My dad has some seriously freaky books on this. He's real big on the artificial intelligence kick, and has been for the last 30 years. In the 70's he was telling John and I about such "ridiculous" things as personal computers and a global network. Well, I'm using both right now.

Probably all you said Randall will happen, and more, in due "time".

I've read an interesting book, I may have mentioned it before, called "The World, The Flesh, and The Devil".

At some point I presume we will have mechanical bodies, the only flesh organ that we will have will be the human brain.

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Randall
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posted February 06, 2001 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
And not needing to take Life to sustain their own (food), they will have a fascination for and respect for all Life. They will probably have more morals than most humans!

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Consider the circle, measure it please,
All its three hundred and sixty degrees.
Wasn't that fun, and haven't you found
You can do it again, the other way 'round?

Now that we know how many degrees,
Must be accounted for nice as you please
Here come astrologers, what do they say?
Divide the degrees in precisely this way.
Take thirty degrees for each of the signs
It makes a nice wheel divided by lines.

Chris Angelino

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gooberlily
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posted February 06, 2001 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gooberlily     Edit/Delete Message
Good point Randall!

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Randall
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posted April 08, 2002 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
To the top.

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"It is never too late to become what you might have been." George Eliot

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Randall
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posted July 14, 2002 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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"He who is devoid of the power to forgive is devoid of the power to love." Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Randall
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posted November 03, 2002 11:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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posted July 05, 2004 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maklhouf     Edit/Delete Message

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paras
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posted July 06, 2004 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for paras     Edit/Delete Message
Whenever I hear the word 'android', I think of Data from Star Trek: the Next Generation. He was my favorite character.

In some ways I really envy him. No emotions to cloud his thinking. No sadness or anger. But I know that to be without emotion would be to lose an essential part of my humanity.

If we ever do create androids, I think I will get along well with them. Machines already like me...

Great topic Randall. I can't wait to hear what everyone else has to say.

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