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scorpbaby
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posted October 08, 2004 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpbaby     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, but I just watched Farenheit 9/11 and the debates tonight. That was too much to take in for one night. I want to pull my hair out I'm so aggravated! Something needs to be done in this country and fast. We are moving backwards...

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LibraSparkle
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posted October 08, 2004 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
May I suggest you hash it out in Global Unity?

There are people who like to go on break from GU, that probably would rather not run into these topics out of GU.

While some of us might agree with you completely, there are many members of this forum who disagree with your statements.

Opinions can get very heated on this sort of topic. From my understanding, that is why Global Unity has been created.

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scorpbaby
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posted October 08, 2004 11:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpbaby     Edit/Delete Message
Yea ok- that was just an implusive post. I didn't want to start a debate in here, just venting...I guess in the wrong place. I apologize if I really offended anyone.

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juniperb
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posted October 08, 2004 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message

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If having a soul means being able to feel love and loyalty and gratitude, then animals are better off than a lot of humans. ~James Herriot

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Rainbow~
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posted October 09, 2004 07:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rainbow~     Edit/Delete Message
You didn't offend ME, Scorpbaby....*sigh*....

But I don't even take my opinions to GU anymore....it actually made me physically sick...and I had to back off....

Love,
Rainbow

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Nephthys
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posted October 09, 2004 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nephthys     Edit/Delete Message
Dear scorp ~

I too, agree with you completely.

Fahrenheit 911 is now available for rental so anyone who hasn't seen it, *please* go rent it!! You have nothing to lose and a lot of information to gain!

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LibraSparkle
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posted October 09, 2004 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Scorpbaby,

No need to apologize. I share your sentiments.

There's a lot of ugliness going around in GU right now. I'd just like to keep it from spilling over into this forum.

As far as the movie goes, I haven't seen it yet. It'll be coming to me from Netflix soon. A lot of information has come out about the movie, and about it's possible biases and truth stretching. I will watch it with an open mind. I'm sure it's not ALL lies... as I understand it, there is a lot of footage in the movie that can speak for itself.

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scorpbaby
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posted October 09, 2004 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpbaby     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, I'm glad no one was P!$$ed by my outburst lol
I just checked out GU and I'm a little frightened to say anything in there! I would get chewed up for sure.

Hey Libra Sparkle~ When I watched Farenheit, with my mom, she had said the same as you. She had heard, like everyone else, how some of the movie was fabricated and bias. So she viewed it keeping all of that in mind. By the end of it she was in between crying and boiling over. I was even expecting some of the movie to go off on tangents but it didn't. Very powerful film!

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StarLover33
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posted October 09, 2004 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
Farenhiet 9/11 is a fairy tale, I don't believe in what Michael Moore says anymore, much of the movie has been debunked on deaf ears. I went to go see it myself, and if I hadn't done any research, I would've fallen for his remarks. Personally, I hope Bush wins over Kerry any day. Are media is way too pessimistic and fearful, and the war is not half as bad as the liberals would like you to believe nor is the economy. But of course that is from my personal observation and opinion. I don't want to inhibit anyone else, but I want to make sure my point of view gets out there.

-StarLover

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hooked
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posted October 09, 2004 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hooked     Edit/Delete Message
Starlover,

Where do you get your information? Just curious.

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StarLover33
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posted October 09, 2004 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
I just pay attention, I observe the candidates as individuals only, I listen to both points of view, I think of what is best for our country at this time, and then I make my personal opinion. I'm not afraid to be wrong, I take full responsibility if I am.

-StarLover

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StarLover33
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posted October 09, 2004 09:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
Michael Moore is not a credible news source, he's an incredible film maker because he can sway the audience, but he's not a professional reporter, he doesn't go by journalist guidelines. He's biased, he over embellishes while leaving out other sources. In his movie, he bashes the military, he bashes the soldiers, and then he thinks he's supporting them. My cousin went to Iraq, and I had gone to see the movie with him, he was jumping out of his seat ready to kick Michael Moore in the ass by portraying the soldiers as idiots. He wanted to kick his ass, and you know what I don't blame him. Not only that, but Moore doesn't want to believe that he could possibly be wrong. After all he's making millions and millions of dollars by bashing the country that is giving him all the money. You think he's helping the cause, no he's hurting the cause.


-StarLover

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hooked
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posted October 09, 2004 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hooked     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, thanks for your reply. So many different points of view...

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scorpbaby
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posted October 10, 2004 03:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpbaby     Edit/Delete Message
Wilfred Owen (1893-1918)
"Dulce et Decorum Est"

"Bent double, like old beggars under sacks,
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs,
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame, all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of gas-shells dropping softly behind.


Gas! GAS! quick, boys! An ecstasy of fumbling,
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound’ring like a man in fire or lime.—
Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.

In all my dreams before my helpless sight
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.


If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin,
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gurgling from the froth-corrupted lungs
Bitten as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,—
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
TO CHILDREN ARDENT FOR SOME DESPERATE GLORY,
THE OLD LIE: *Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori."


**(Tis sweet and fitting to die for one's country)

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