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Jody
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posted September 20, 2002 02:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I was re-reading Linda's Star Signs the other week and I was quite curious about what she had to say about having your chart rectified to find out exactly what your birth time is. My mum always told me that I was born at 8.30am on May 23rd, 1975 (in Perth, Western Australia...so I guess that's a day earlier in the US where I live now!!). Anyway I always thought..."My, that's a very rounded time to be born!"...hence my new interest in rectification...

Anyone know anything about this?

Cheers and love!

Jody.

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Bissie
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posted September 20, 2002 04:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yes..go to this website:
http://www.astroexpert.com/General/default.asp


register yourself and then go to "Rectify your birth time" section. Its an ancient indian method to rectify your birth time, which is intriguingly accurate

my mom wasn`t sure whether I was born at 5:10 or 5:15 PM ...so, i checked with that site and its turned out that I was born at 5:15...interesting!

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Randall
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posted September 21, 2002 04:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Welcome to Lindaland, Jody!

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lllog
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posted September 21, 2002 06:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats an interesting site, but it indicates that my ascendant is Saggitaurus, instead of Capricorn, which I know that it is. This makes less than comfortable with other things it says.

Lanny

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Bissie
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posted September 21, 2002 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well, the site is about VEDIC Astrology (ancient Indian astrlogy) where the signs on the ASc and the rest is different then the Western Astrology, so if you don`t follow Vedic, just don`t pay attention to the rest of the interpretations...
the birth rectification is for every one though

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Foxxy
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posted September 21, 2002 07:47 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If you select western under rectification, or under their birth horoscope options it will give you your correct asc.

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Jody
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posted September 21, 2002 08:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Awww you guys are lovely Thanks for the info ))

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stella polaris
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posted September 23, 2002 12:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I tried this one out of curiousity, even though I'm sure about my birth time. (My dad recorded it and I've since checked with the hospital). Well, according to this site I can't have been born when I was born because it was a male time zone, I should have been born at least twenty minutes before or at least fifteen minutes after! Anyway, I thought I'd check my horoscope if I was born 15 minutes later (earlier would mean before midnight and another date, as well, out of the question!). The new chart is almost identical, all the planets stay in the same houses and the aspects are the same. So I guess it doesn't matter...

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MARY
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posted September 26, 2002 03:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was wondering if your birth time was incorrect and the rectification said you should have been born at a different time?

Well, I mean what if your birth time is correct! And would that tell us something about people that are homosexual?

I mean if the rect. says you were born in the time a boy should have been born or vise versa would that give us the true reason why some women like women, and some men like men.

No offense please.. to anyone... this is an honest question?
I'm not really sure how to put it any other way.

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pidaua
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posted September 26, 2002 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All,

How weird. I was have been thinking about this very thing concerning birth time and wanted to pose the questions to others on this site.

According to my birth records, I was born 12/16/1969 at 11:45pm in Artesia,CA. My mother told me that my head began to push out almost 2.5 hours before they recorded the actual birthtime. It makes sense. I have almost zero in common with those that have a Virgo Rising, but I am very much in step with the Leo Rising.

This also leads me to wonder about house placement. If known birthtimes can be adjusted, then the theory of the houses will also be adjusted and therefore change the meanings of some of the planets in those houses.

What do you think?

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lllog
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posted September 26, 2002 06:01 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The Ascendant should be drawn for the moment the child draws its first breath into it's lungs. Seems unlikely that a child would do that just when its head starts out.

Unfortuantly, hospitals don't always get the time right. Looking at your prescribed time, your 24 degree 53 minutes is a lot closer to being a Libra than a Leo.

Lanny

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Bernadette1216
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posted September 26, 2002 10:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pidaua..we share the same birthday..just a year apart!

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stella polaris
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posted September 27, 2002 01:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mary, I'm 300 percent heterosexual...

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MARY
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posted September 27, 2002 09:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I sorry if I offended anyone, I was not trying to imply anything...stella polaris..
What I was asking was are the people that are homosexual born on the opposite sex time?
Not that it will affect everyone???
But does it affect some people?

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stella polaris
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posted September 27, 2002 10:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mary, I didn't get offended. Actually, when I did the rectification thing the first thought that popped my mind was "should I have been a man?!"...Also because I have some classic "male" features, being very tall with broad shoulders and rather narrow hips...But then I re-read this rectification stuff and discovered that I'm actually born in ANIMAL zone...No way!! I dismissed the whole thing as not very reliable...
As for who are homosexual or not, I guess it must be possible to see it from a chart. But how?

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MARY
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posted September 27, 2002 11:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you stella polaris, I am glad I did not offend.. It is just when you are typing instead of talking you can't judge tone of voice or intent you know??

I hope some-one knows if the chart can be read for that.

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pidaua
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posted September 27, 2002 11:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lllog,

I understand what you are saying and I agree to a point. I have read many different variations on when the Ascendent should be drawn, some Vedic astrologers believe it is when the head begins to emerge, some believe it is when the child first cries.

I am a strong believer of astrology and the interactions of planets and signs within a persons chart. I am skeptical of the theory being the Ascendent and the house placement. How can one time, one moment, effect a persons "chart" and yet, if the time is wrong, we need to assign a completely new "personality" to the scope?

Mathmatically, I may be closer to Libra, but that is if you take into account what the doctor placed on my certificate, yet I have almost nothing in common with the Libra or the Virgo rising sign.

Does anyone else question this?

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lllog
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posted September 27, 2002 12:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The reason that I have heard for the first breath school is that it is the first individual action of the new person. It also has to do with bringing the polorized air into the body.

A misconception that many people have is that the cusps of the signs indicate a new personality. Most astrologers I believe feel that as you get closer to a cusp you start to feel the energy of the next sign. That you are only a true sign when the ascendant is between 10 and 20 dregrees of a sign.

More food for thought.
Lanny

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stella polaris
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posted September 28, 2002 02:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Pidaua! I looked at your chart out of curiousity. With both Uranus and Pluto in the 1th house I can understand that you don't feel much like a Virgo acs...And with both Moon and Sun in firesigns I can imagine you're rather fiery, not exactly Virgo cooool...Can I ask what you do for a living?
As for adjusting birth time and getting a new horoscope...I'm born close to the Polar circle and one astrologer told me I should do my chart with the equal house system, not Placidus, as I've had before...So I got a completly new chart, I'm still trying to get used to it, but it seems to fit better than the old one. It's not like getting a completly new personality, it's just adjusted..The thing is also, when people have their chart rectified we're normally talking about adjustments of a few minutes, not several hours...

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pidaua
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posted October 11, 2002 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Stella,

Sorry it has taken me so long to respond. I have been out on the road and just got back from the World Dairy Expo. To answer your question, I have a degree in Biology and Chemistry and spent most of my time in the lab and working as an ER Vet tech out West and then relocated to the East Coast and ran a diagnostic vet lab out here in Maryland before being recruited to a private Biotech company as a research associate.

Now, I am a product manager and do everything from advertising, marketing and research on our agriculture products. I love working in the ag business because it allows me to travel, work with tons of different people and most of all, animals.

I guess I always questioned the whole rising sign thing because it seems so changable, yet it can cast so many traits concerning a person, but what if we are wrong about how we cast that house placement. Linda Goodman, when unsure about a persons rising sign, would use the persons sign sign in its place.

Does that make sense?

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MARY
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posted October 11, 2002 05:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi everybody, The Larousee Encyclopedia of Astrology says....

Ascendent....

"The degree of the zodiac rising at the eastern horizon of the birth place at the moment of birth- that is, the eastern point of the intersection of Horizon and Ecliptic-usually the cusp of the first house"

"One sign of the zodiac may take from less than 1/2hour to over 3hours to cross the horizon, but within 24hours, all twelve signs will have risen. Thus, the average time it takes a sign to rise is 2 hours. Since there are 30' in a sign, a new degree appears on the horizon on the average of every 4 min.
It follows that in order to determine an accurate Ascendent, an astrologer must have, in addition to the terrestial long. and lat. of the birth place, a reasonably precise time of birth. "

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VenusWarriorPrincess
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posted October 14, 2002 12:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Wow, this is weird!
I did the rectification chart and I was born in the male zone. Correctly placed within the female zone, it would effect my ascendant. Therefore, my assumptions would be correct in always feeling more like Cappy rising than Aquarius rising. Hmmm, very interesting.

Mary, I think the question you posed is quite valid. It would make very good sense as to why some possess qualities of the opposite sex. If we are so called guided and influenced by the planet positions as well as ruling planets, then it would make perfect sense also that individuals born in opposite male/female time zones would carry some or all of those traits.
Great Question! I don't know why people freeze up when the subject of possible homosexuality is brought up. It isn't as alien as extraterrestrials.

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Purpleflame
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posted October 14, 2002 02:02 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm, I am not allowed to be born at my birthtime either unless I am a guy. Hmm And I paid the hospital to give me my birthtime. Anyway, StellaPolaris look at the positives. I have been looking at my Vertex being conjunct to my guys' Sun and to be a lady I have to delay my birth by 6 minutes and this makes me only half an orb in the conjunct vertex/sun and I know he and I are totally destined. Hmmmm Now what do I do about my Sagi ascendant as it is getting into the 29th and almost a Cap. I have a Cap daughter and this guy has a Cap moon. Which one do I believe? Thanks for the interesting string and the idea of me being a guy never once entered my mind or my sexual 'choice'. Love Flame

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pidaua
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posted October 15, 2002 05:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HI All,

Well, the more I look at things the more I realize that I just have to accept the 11:45pm birthtime.

What is kind of scary though is having Pluto and Uranus in the first house and having Pluto conjuct my ASC. The more I read about Pluto in the first house and the assocation with other planets in my chart, the more I realize that it fits me.

I will have to do more research on this matter..(Guess that sounds like one with a Virgo Asc.)

Hmmm, do you think that is why I seem to attract an unusual number of Virgo men? It seems though that the things that attract them to me in the beginning (outgoing, love of life and sense of humor) is exactly what freaks them out in the end. I just separated from my husband (it's been in the works for about a year now, but finally made the move), and he is a Virgo with a Gemini moon. I love him with my whole heart as he does me, but we just didn't get on in the Romance department at all.

Maybe I will pose that on the Soul Mate thread.

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Pixie
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posted August 18, 2003 10:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
found this thread towards the end, and noticed the theme "birth Rectification" was in one of the newest threads. Maybe there's some helpful links or info here.

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