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proxieme
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posted November 16, 2002 01:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey ya'll -

What's your short list of good bare-bones beginner astrology books that don't excessively dumb-down the material presented or condescend to the reader?

Danke,
Corri

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Foxxy
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posted November 16, 2002 11:50 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Noel Tyl's New Way to Learn Astrology
Parkers Astrology
uhm Everything You Ever Needed to Know about Astrology.
and The House Book

Everything you ever needed to know is part of a series, it might be called something similiar everything you wante to know or something. I can't recall the author of the house book off the top of my head, but I found it relatively easy to read. Parkers Astrology has EVERYTHING in it, and to be honest I still haven't finished it. Its the best hit and run reference book I own though, and well worththe thirty bucks I spent.
Noel Tyl finally helped me learn the zodiac symbols and planet symbols as well as helping me grasp easily the meaning sof houses and signs.
All in all, those are my faves.
I was no too impressed with the idiots guide to astrology. It was to flaky for me. But then I have Cappy Mercury.

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Carlo
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posted November 16, 2002 02:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Corri,

Kim Rogers-Gallagher's first book, Astrology for the Light Side of the Brain is worth the money for beginners. Planets in Transit by Rob Hand is useful to have when you start tracking your transits. Two books I still refer to are Astrology, Karma, and Transformation by Stephan Arroyo, and Cycles of Becoming by Alexander Ruperti. I did a biography of Ruperti, here:

http://lovestarz.com/ruperti.html

there is an excerpt from this book in this bio

also, Spiritual Astrology by Jan Spiller & Karen McCoy is worth having, it gives you great info on both the Lunar and Solar eclipses that occurred before your birth which indicate partly why you are here, and that is useful info, not in other books.

I suggest looking for all these books first on ebay and half.com rather than buy them new.

Parker's is just too damn big of a book, and it's okay for content, yet your Aquarian Moon will immediately crave more, trust me. Tyl's early stuff is decent. You can check out Noel Tyl's (pronounced "Nole Till") website, he has a chat board. I like his early stuff from his Harvard days in the 70s.

Bright Blessings,
Carlo

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Donna
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posted November 16, 2002 07:10 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Corri,

Next to Astrology For the Right Side of the Brain I recommend Debbi Kempton-Smith's book Secrets From A Stargazer's Notebook. I usually recommend both, they are each very funny ladies and have a unique way of presenting the information that helps you to retain it. They keep your interest and the reading is definitely not boring.

Donna

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Carlo
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posted November 16, 2002 07:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
oh and *oh my gods* if you can find the book quoted at the very end of this page I did on Vulcan:

http://lovestarz.com/vulcan.html

or anything by Barbara Watters at all, I think you will love it. Just read the excerpt I gave on the Vulcan page, after all the text quotes from Linda...she wrote that whole book like that, for each Sun sign, it is kickass as a fun astrology read, you will learn and love it, why, because story works best for retention of this stuff, that's why myths rule. The whole book is a story of her and her crack astro pals going on and on at their meeting about each sign and what is lame about it, yet then being forced to defend the good stuff. It is so-o good, I want to write the sequel Check the Astrologer's Memorial too for a bio on her. Oh my good this book totally rocks, I will never part with my copy

BB,
Carlo

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Aselzion
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posted November 16, 2002 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aselzion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Good basic books for Beginners in the Art:

1) Sun Signs

2) Love Signs both by Linda

3) Spharial's Manual of Astrology by Sepahrial

4) My World of Astrology by Sydney Omarr

5) The Original A-Z Horoscope Maker and Delineator by Llewellyn George.. NOT the newer one with info on Pluto! They removed MANY pages of great atrology to include some mediocre stuff on Pluto.. this you can get at a good antiquarian bookstore. here's a link to a good one with reasonable prices:

www.weiserantiquarian.com

6) Horary Astrology and The Judgment of Events by Barbara Watters... this is GREAT for natal astrologers too.

7) Astrology: A Cosmic Science by Isabel Hickey

These are great for starters, and give a good feel for classical or "old style" astrology, which I much prefer to the modern style. But that's just my personal preference. I tend to like my astrology black and white. If I can't figure out what the person should look like from the chart, or rectify it by events, I won't do the chart.. again, my personal preference.

Donna: loved Secret's From A Stargazer's Notebook also. Debbi Kempton-Smith is another Aries writer!
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Pax et Bonum

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Donna
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posted November 17, 2002 01:27 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aselzion,

I was just re-arranging my bookshelves and found my grandfather's copy of Sepharial's Astrology book, different than Sepharial's Manual of Astrology (which I also have). It is so old, 1904, but it is hardback and the cost was 75 cents back then!!

I met Debbi Kempton-Smith a long time ago. She was delightful, funny and quick with her wit, just like she writes.

I love Isabel Hickey's book.

Donna

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Carlo
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posted November 18, 2002 11:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And also Isabelle Pagan's book, From Pioneer to Poet, yet that is hard to find and not really a beginner book. She is more Rudhyaresque in that awesome book...or is Rudhyar more Pagan lol

Actually, I always counsel my students to start with Linda's work, and maybe get them on one or two beginner books, yet "Linda first" is a rule for me, no one goes furthr with me until they have a firm grasp on her astrology.

Hey you guys, I also am the founder of A.A., Astrologers' Anonymous, so when you feel you are ODing here, please stop by!

http://lovestarz.com/aaHome.html

Bright Blessings,
Carlo

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proxieme
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posted November 19, 2002 08:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
THANKS YA'LL!!!

So...
*Noel Tyl's Way to Learn Astrology (I'm writing this out to make it easier for me)
*Everything You Ever Needed to Know About Astrology
*Parker's Astrology
*The House Book (Hey, I've seen that one...cool)
*Planets in Transit
*Karma, Astrology, & Transformation
*Spiritual Astrology (looks very interesting)
*Secrets From a Stargazers Notebook
*From Pioneer to Poet
*Spharial's Manual of Astrology by Sepahrial
*My World of Astrology by Sydney Omarr (ha, remembering LG's comments)
*The Original A-Z Horoscope Maker and Delineator by Llewellyn George
*Horary Astrology and The Judgment of Events
*Astrology: A Cosmic Science by Isabel Hickey
*What's Wrong With Your Sun Sign (veeeery interesting; I'll be on the lookout. Or I'll pay addicts to find Carlo, knock him around, and take his copy)
**Astrology for the Light Side of the Brain

Ya'll are so, so cool. I'm in a mello mood right now, but know that ya'll warmed my heart w/ your help, and I'm grateful.

Foxxy - yeah, the Idiot's Guide...yeah...I mean, it has it's merits, and, hell, I couldn't write it...
I've looked through Parker's b/f; it does have a ton of great info, but, you're right Carlo, I'd read the sections and then say, "What? What?!? Where's the rest?? More depth! Where's the nuance?!?"

Oh - Aselzion - a pleasure to meet you

Thank you for the classical perspective.

I've killed (read to death) my copies of LG's Sun Signs and Love Signs...I could read them more (over and over), but I've papers to write and movies to watch, and once I begin on her books hours pass without my noticing.

I'll begin collecting all of the other above so I can dive into 'em once my semester's over. It'll be a fun break

Corri

BTW - Something that Donna said sparked my curiosity: how many astrology-type people have a history of it in their families?

Oh, and Carlo - Eh, I forgot. There was some really good question there, but it ran away. It'll come back later.

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proxieme
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posted November 19, 2002 08:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HA! I remembered!

CarloVirgo -
What beginner books would you recommend for a Virgo?
My sis is a Virgo Sun, Scorp Moon, and Aqua Rising, so I kinda get her - we often come to the same conclusions, we just have completely different modes of observation and methods of arriving at those conclusions. That is, she actually has an identifiable method - if you ask her how she decided something, she can trace out the exact path...while I just kinda know a lot of stuff...it's so annoying...
so it seems like she might have different requirements when learning.
Any thoughts?

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proxieme
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posted November 20, 2002 11:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And ya'll-

Any books you'd recommend on Chiron?

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proxieme
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posted November 22, 2002 12:42 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Foxxy -

A friend of mine had "The House Book", so I'm borrowing it & reading through it.
It's been very interesting so far.
Being an astro novice, I'll probably mess up the gist of what I'm about to try to say and/or state the obvious, but...
Just going through charts I have saved on astro. com and reading about my/my family's/my friend's placements, I've noticed something like "themes" come up in charts.

For instance, drawing just from the planetary house placemtns that Cancer/Cancer/Virgo I keep mentioning seems to have his chart thrust towards a career in the public eye that caters to public sentiment, and strong projection of ego (even if that's not quite what the person actually feels).

I've also noticed stronger thematic links (if that makes any sense) between my chart and those w/ which I'm closer than between mine & those that are of more passing or casual acquaintances.

Mine seems to point towards travel and communication, highly idiosycratic individuation (resulting in alienation to some extent) as well as both abrupt and constant change, but not without some degree of career success (whether particularly desired or not).
The description for my Mercury seems to contain many of the elements I'm talking about:

Mercury in the Fourth House
With this poistion of Mercury there is a great love of motion and travel, a great desire to see faraway places and to know exotic people, partly as a means for acquiring perspective on their own roots and early environment.
There may be a severing of ties with roots and early env., and they many ultimately end up far from where they started. (...)
Later in life, they may move away from their early roots and environment in a cultural as well as geographic sense, sometimes adopting a less civilized, less highly-educated, more basic lifestyle, or at least its point of view, and working toard an understanding of such a lifestyle through writing, speaking, and so forth.
This poision of Mercury is a partial testimony to a strong current of inner growth and self-development throughout life that takes them far away from where they started in every sense, not just physically. There is often the lifelong styling of the the self after an ideal and, consequently, a lifelong developement along those lines, although it takes other factors to show what sort of an ideal...
The people have a very private mental life, and are highly individualistic in their way of thinking. They may have a rather lonely mental life and feel somewhat isolated, particularly in youth. The truth is that they are not afraid, as are most people, to think differently and willingly forge ahead along new lines of thought, taking each new idea and testing it, rejecting what doesn't fit their current system, yet basically maintaining a respect for all systems of though. There is a lifelong search for a basic reality that can unite all disparate and seemingly opposing systems fo thought, a search for what is basic to all of them. Ideas are loved, not for their intellectual patness, but for realism and practicality. There is usu. an interest in history, anthropology, archaelogy, as evidence of what has been, upon which their own personal worldview can be based. The mind here is a digger, ever working down through facts toward fundamental truths rather than flying high after dreams and beautiful but insubstantial fantasies.
Those with a fourth house Merc have an innate feeling for "the people", although they themselves generally remain aloof from large groups. They feel their own selfhood intensely, and it is hard for them to reach past it and touch the lives of others. It is often the sign of one who walks alone. They may become leaders if others urge leadership upon them, or they may shun it, but they will never be followers.
(excerpted from _The House Book_ by Stephanie Camilleri, 1999, Llewellyn Publications)

I wrote that whole dern thing out b/c
a) I really can't think of thing to write for an essay that I'm working on, and sometimes just writing *something* helps get the juices flowing
and
b) It seems pretty dead-on.

So, thanks again Foxxy for the great rec.

Corri

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